BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Native code still fastest Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Guero sin Fe Guest Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:03 pm    Post subject: Native code still fastest It seems that even Microsoft consider that Native code is superior to .NET managed, then why upgrade for GUI programming? i I love my delphi 5 enterprise!. http://www.grimes.demon.co.uk/dotnet/vistaAndDotnet.htm Back to top John Herbster Guest Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Native code still fastest "David Smith" <nowhere (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote Quote: ... Delphi 2006 is so much better development environment for GUI programming? And for that matter, any kind of programming. Any kind? Even (1) Mathematical modeling and optimizers? (2) FEA or PDE solvers? (3) Programming for embedded computer systems? (4) PIC programming? Hmm, JohnH Back to top David Smith Guest Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Native code still fastest Guero sin Fe kirjoitti: Quote: managed, then why upgrade for GUI programming? i I love my delphi 5 enterprise!. Because, Delphi 2006 is so much better development environment for GUI programming? And for that matter, any kind of programming. David S. Back to top David Smith Guest Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Native code still fastest John Herbster kirjoitti: Quote: " Tom Corey" <omtay.oreycay (AT) otmailhay (DOT) omcay> wrote Language barrier. I think the OP was asking "Why upgrade from Delphi 5 to Delphi 2006". Yes, of course! That is why I thought that the phrase "any kind of programming" was too broad. --JohnH I'm glad that thing sorted out while I was watching TV ;-) But I do think that Delphi compiler should be made better (optimizations etc.), so you could use for more purposes. David S. Back to top John Herbster Guest Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Native code still fastest " Tom Corey" <omtay.oreycay (AT) otmailhay (DOT) omcay> wrote Quote: Language barrier. I think the OP was asking "Why upgrade from Delphi 5 to Delphi 2006". Yes, of course! That is why I thought that the phrase "any kind of programming" was too broad. --JohnH Back to top Tom Corey Guest Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Native code still fastest John Herbster wrote: Quote: ... Delphi 2006 is so much better development environment for GUI programming? And for that matter, any kind of programming. Any kind? Even (1) Mathematical modeling and optimizers? (2) FEA or PDE solvers? (3) Programming for embedded computer systems? (4) PIC programming? Hmm, JohnH Language barrier. I think the OP was asking "Why upgrade from Delphi 5 to Delphi 2006". If that is correct, then I think David's answer is correct. If Delphi 5 could do it, Delphi 2006 can do it better. Back to top Roby DP Guest Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Native code still fastest Quote: Guero sin Fe wrote: It seems that even Microsoft consider that Native code is superior to .NET managed, then why upgrade for GUI programming? I downloaded an application called "paint.net" today and I'm pleasantly surprised by its speed. Hi, I sure you, try D2006+GraphicEx+GR32... it blow away in the trash paint.net. Massive operations as hue, rotation etc.. 10x faster with delphi... ;) Back to top Arthur Hoornweg Guest Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Native code still fastest Guero sin Fe wrote: Quote: It seems that even Microsoft consider that Native code is superior to .NET managed, then why upgrade for GUI programming? I downloaded an application called "paint.net" today and I'm pleasantly surprised by its speed. It's a .NET 2.0 based graphical application that supports layers. The kind of application one would think managed code isn't suitable for. I suspect the installer pre-compiles the whole thing, there's no delay at all when I start it. But heck, when it's pre-compiled, it's native code, isn't it? -- Arthur Hoornweg (In order to reply per e-mail, please just remove the ".net" from my e-mail address. Leave the rest of the address intact including the "antispam" part. I had to take this measure to counteract unsollicited mail.) Back to top Ben Hochstrasser Guest Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Native code still fastest John Herbster wrote: Quote: Which reminds me that one of my neighbors is doing another kind of "programming" for the televising of the "March Madness" basketball tournaments. Oh, the infamous TVCR class? Ugly code, really. -- Ben Back to top John Herbster Guest Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Native code still fastest Quote: Which reminds me that one of my neighbors is doing another kind of "programming" for the televising of the "March Madness" basketball tournaments. Oh, the infamous TVCR class? Ugly code, really. No! She is the one who tells the commentators when to talk, what to say, and when to stop talking, so that every thing seems to flow together smoothly. Back to top Ben Hochstrasser Guest Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Native code still fastest John Herbster wrote: Quote: No! She is the one who tells the commentators when to talk, what to say, and when to stop talking, so that every thing seems to flow together smoothly. She should get a job as Mr. Ballmer's assis^H^H^H^H^Hcounsellor. :) -- Ben Back to top Dave Nottage [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Native code still fastest Arthur Hoornweg wrote: Quote: I downloaded an application called "paint.net" today and I'm pleasantly surprised by its speed. FWIW, I'm not pleasantly surprised by its speed. The effects seem to be slow (compared with native apps I've used). I'm also bothered by the flickering that occurs in the tool windows when using the menu. Other than that, my initial impression is that it is a nice app <g> -- Dave Nottage [TeamB] Have questions?: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Want answers?: http://support.borland.com Back to top John Herbster Guest Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Native code still fastest Quote: "any kind of programming" I'm glad that thing sorted out while I was watching TV Which reminds me that one of my neighbors is doing another kind of "programming" for the televising of the "March Madness" basketball tournaments. Back to top Ben Hochstrasser Guest Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Native code still fastest David Smith wrote: Quote: But I do think that Delphi compiler should be made better (optimizations etc.), so you could use for more purposes. Yep. I hate it when I have to intersperse sleep() calls every so often because my apps are too fast. ;-) -- Ben Back to top Dan Barclay Guest Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:05 am    Post subject: Re: Native code still fastest "Ben Hochstrasser" <bhoc@tiscali123^H^H^H.ch> wrote in message news:Xns9788E8099489Bbhoc (AT) 207 (DOT) 105.83.66... Quote: David Smith wrote: But I do think that Delphi compiler should be made better (optimizations etc.), so you could use for more purposes. Yep. I hate it when I have to intersperse sleep() calls every so often because my apps are too fast. A loop works, and it makes it look like your app is *doing* something<vbg>. Just don't forget: {$Optimization Off} Otherwise you may be disappointed in your loop timing<g> Dan Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next Page 1 of 5   Jump to: Select a forum C++ Builder Newsgroups----------------C++ BuilderC++ Builder (ActiveX)C++ Builder (Announcements)C++ Builder (Command Line Tools)C++ Builder DatabasesC++ Builder Databases (ADO)C++ Builder Databases (Desktop)C++ Builder Databases (InterBase Express)C++ Builder Databases (Multi-Tier)C++ Builder Databases (SQL Servers)C++ Builder (Graphics)C++ Builder (IDE)C++ Builder (Internet)C++ Builder (Internet Socket)C++ Builder (Internet Web)C++ Builder (Jobs)C++ Builder (Language)C++ Builder (Language C++)C++ Builder (Compatibility with MFC)C++ Builder (Native API)C++ Builder (Non-Technical)C++ Builder (Students)C++ Builder (Third Party Tools)C++ Builder (Upgrade)C++ Builder (VCL)C++ Builder (VCL Components Usage)C++ Builder (VCL Components Development)C++ Builder (VCL Usage)C++ Builder (WinAPI)C++ Builder Installation Delphi Newsgroups----------------Delphi (General)Delphi ActiveX Controls UsageDelphi ActiveX Controls DevelopmentDelphi As400Delphi DatabasesDelphi Databases (ADO)Delphi Databases (dbExpress)Delphi Databases (Desktop)Delphi Databases (InterBase Express)Delphi Databases (Multi-Tier)Delphi Databases (SQL Servers)Delphi DeploymentDelphi GraphicsDelphi IDEDelphi InternationalizationDelphi InternetDelphi Internet Isapi-WebBrokerDelphi Internet WebSnapDelphi Internet WinsockDelphi JobsDelphi Language BASMDelphi Language ObjectPascalDelphi Model Driven Architecture (General)Delphi Model Driven Architecture (Third Party)Delphi MultimediaDelphi Native APIDelphi Non-TechnicalDelphi ObjectPascalDelphi OLE AutomationDelphi OO designDelphi OpenToolsAPIDelphi Reporting-ChartingDelphi RTLDelphi StudentsDelphi TeamSourceDelphi Thirdparty ToolsDelphi Thirdparty Tools (General)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (RaveReports)Delphi UpgradeDelphi VCLDelphi VCL ComponentsDelphi VCL Components UsingDelphi VCL Components WritingDelphi WebServices SOAPDelphi WinAPIDelphi XMLDelphi Installationcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.misccomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usagecomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.writingcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.databasescomp.lang.pascal.delphi.misccomp.sources.delphi JBuilder Newsgroups----------------JBuilderJBuilder AnnouncementsJBuilder Applet IssuesJBuilder As400JBuilder CompilerJBuilder CORBA/RMIJBuilder DatabasesJBuilder DB SwingJBuilder DebuggerJBuilder DeploymentJBuilder DocumentationJBuilder EnterpriseJBuilder HandheldJBuilder IDEJBuilder JavaJBuilder JavaAPIJBuilder Java LanguageJBuilder Java SwingJBuilder Java BeansJBuilder Java Beans UsageJBuilder Java Beans DevelopmentJBuilder JBCLJBuilder JDataStoreJBuilder JobsJBuilder LinuxJBuilder MacintoshJBuilder & MobileSetJBuilder MultiLingual AppsJBuilder Non-TechnicalJBuilder OpenToolsJBuilder Servlets (JSP)JBuilder StudentsJBuilder Team DevelopmentJBuilder Thirdparty ToolsJBuilder UpgradeJBuilder Installation InterBase Newsgroups----------------InterBaseInterBase Bug DiscussionInterBase GeneralInterBase IBConsoleInterBase OpenSourceInterBase ReplicationInterBase SQLInterBase ThirdpartyInterBase Installation Miscellaneous Borland Newsgroups----------------AppCenterAppServerEnteraVisiBroker  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.