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Kostya
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Kostya
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 Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: Native vs Java vs .NET performance |
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| Quote: | Yet another site that starts rogue ActiveX apps and popup windows in IE.
It wanted to install something called DriveCleaner to my hard drive, and
wouldn't take "no" for an answer. I had to kill all IE windows to stop
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LOL. Lucky me. Using Firefox and did not notice any of that thing |
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Rick Carter
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| Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: Native vs Java vs .NET performance |
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| Quote: | http://www.tommti-systems.de/go.html?http://www.tommti-systems.de/main-
Dateien/reviews/languages/benchmarks.html |
Yet another site that starts rogue ActiveX apps and popup windows in IE.
It wanted to install something called DriveCleaner to my hard drive, and
wouldn't take "no" for an answer. I had to kill all IE windows to stop
it.
Rick Carter
carterrk (AT) despammed (DOT) com
Chair, Delphi/Paradox SIG, Cincinnati PC Users Group
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB]
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| Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: Native vs Java vs .NET performance |
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Kostya wrote:
| Quote: | .NET and Java performance seems ok except in
matrix multiplication, nested loops and exception
handling where it sucked beg time.
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Benchmarking exception handling seems odd to me -- looking at the code
they're measuring the time to raise 100000 exceptions. In .NET this
involves at least two stack walks with security constraints checked and
more. But it strikes me that if you care about the performance of
exception handling then you're maybe asking the wrong question.... :/
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB] · Vertex Systems Corp. · Columbus, OH
Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz
Everything You Need to Know About InterBase Character Sets:
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB]
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| Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Native vs Java vs .NET performance |
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Rick Carter wrote:
| Quote: | Yet another site that starts rogue ActiveX apps and popup windows in
IE.
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I'll take your word for it, since I don't care to haul out IE to test.
I cancelled the top post. Kostya, feel free to post a link to a safer
site if you can find one.
Firefox users, we should probably avoid posting links to sites where
popups are shown to be killed, as they could possibly be more risky for
users of other browsers.
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Craig Stuntz [TeamB] · Vertex Systems Corp. · Columbus, OH
Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz
Borland newsgroup denizen Sergio González has a new CD of
Irish music out, and it's good: http://tinyurl.com/7hgfr |
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Peter Morris [Droopy eyes
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| Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: Native vs Java vs .NET performance |
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| Quote: | .NET and Java performance seems ok except in
.......exception handling where it sucked beg time.
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You shouldn't raise exceptions very often. This fact is hinted in the name
"exception"  |
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Lord Crc
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Shawn B.
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Native vs Java vs .NET performance |
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For those who don't know, thedailywtf.com is a weblog of WTF programming
techniques, the kinds of things that you really want to avoid but, I have
found, for younger programmers, its a great site to teach them what not to
do.
In any case, the weblog is more of a comedy, just don't take it too
seriously. I say this because I've had people argue me blue in the face
that the site promotes best practice.
Thanks,
Shawn |
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Bruce McGee
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: Native vs Java vs .NET performance |
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Shawn B. wrote:
| Quote: | In any case, the weblog is more of a comedy, just don't take it too
seriously. I say this because I've had people argue me blue in the
face that the site promotes best practice.
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Someone sent around some pictures of people doing crazy and dangerous
things with heavy equipment. One of the guys I worked with couldn't
understand why some of these were a bad idea.
Unfortunately, he took the same approach with his development. This
was the same guy that wrote a With block that was nested 3 deep (bad
enough) and then defended it. It would be funnier a) if it weren't
true and b) if I didn't wind up maintaining a bunch of his code.
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Regards,
Bruce McGee
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Bob Dawson
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Native vs Java vs .NET performance |
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"Craig Stuntz [TeamB]" wrote
| Quote: | But it strikes me that if you care about the performance of
exception handling then you're maybe asking the wrong question.... :/
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Now THAT's diplomacy!
bobD |
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Charles McAllister
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: Native vs Java vs .NET performance |
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Bruce McGee wrote:
| Quote: | Someone sent around some pictures of people doing crazy and dangerous
things with heavy equipment. One of the guys I worked with couldn't
understand why some of these were a bad idea.
Unfortunately, he took the same approach with his development. This
was the same guy that wrote a With block that was nested 3 deep (bad
enough) and then defended it. It would be funnier a) if it weren't
true and b) if I didn't wind up maintaining a bunch of his code.
if you're in 'with statement' hell i've got a free tool that can safely remove them. |
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Wayne Niddery [TeamB]
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: Native vs Java vs .NET performance |
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Bruce McGee wrote:
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Unfortunately, he took the same approach with his development. This
was the same guy that wrote a With block that was nested 3 deep (bad
enough) and then defended it. It would be funnier a) if it weren't
true and b) if I didn't wind up maintaining a bunch of his code.
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Names! I need names so I never consider hiring him! <g>
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Wayne Niddery - Logic Fundamentals, Inc. (www.logicfundamentals.com)
RADBooks: http://www.logicfundamentals.com/RADBooks.html
"We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million
typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare.
Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." — Robert
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Bruce McGee
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Native vs Java vs .NET performance |
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Wayne Niddery [TeamB] wrote:
| Quote: | Names! I need names so I never consider hiring him! <g
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It's a different person from the one who thinks GOTOs are cool feature
in Delphi (he also likes *very* long procedures), who is also different
from the guy who doesn't like meaningful field and variable names
because it's too much typing.
And I had a boss once tell me that he had a firm grasp on the concept
of top-down development (in Basic) because he tried to never use
branching or gosubs.
I've got more of these stories than I do about car break downs, and I
have a fair number of those. One of these days I'm gonna write a book.
:)
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Regards,
Bruce McGee
Glooscap Software |
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Bruce McGee
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Native vs Java vs .NET performance |
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Charles McAllister wrote:
| Quote: | if you're in 'with statement' hell i've got a free tool that can
safely remove them.
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I'd be curious to see it. Don't tell anyone it's free, though. I'm
pretty sure you could convince Nick Hodges to pay for a copy. :)
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Regards,
Bruce McGee
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Rick Carter
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: Native vs Java vs .NET performance |
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Bruce McGee wrote:
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Make sure to file it under "Horror," and include the appropriate warnings
and disclaimers on the cover. <g>
Actually, a book or a website covering "how not to write Delphi code"
and also accompanied by examples of better coding practices would be
very welcome. When can you start, Bruce? :)
Rick Carter
carterrk (AT) despammed (DOT) com
Chair, Delphi/Paradox SIG, Cincinnati PC Users Group
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