BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Need some advice...          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Joe Thompson Guest Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 5:39 am    Post subject: Need some advice... I just started working on a project that is very GUI intensive. I have always used BCB and suggested that I use it for this project. The tool used to build it has been left up to me with the following stipulation: It may need to be ported to Windows CE someday. That alone pretty much rules out BCB. I don't know much about .Net yet. Does it port to WinCE? Are there third party controls similar to Raize, RX, TComPort, etc. that can be added to the .Net IDE? If so, where is a good source for them? If .Net is not portable to WInCE, is regular VC++? Obviously I'm not very familiar with WinCE so any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Can you just take a Windows program and compile it for WinCE or does special consideration have to be given to button sizes, menus, etc. since it mostly runs on small screens. Does this new BCBX target WinCE? Or what about Delphi( using ..Net? Thanks in advance, Joe Back to top Remy Lebeau (TeamB) Guest Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: Need some advice... "Joe Thompson" <joelizthompson (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote Quote: The tool used to build it has been left up to me with the following stipulation: It may need to be ported to Windows CE someday. You just ruled out BCB. It does not support WinCE at all. Quote: I don't know much about .Net yet. Does it port to WinCE? There is a version of WinCE available that supports .NET, yes. Quote: Can you just take a Windows program and compile it for WinCE No. WinCE is a completely different hardware platform. Even though WinCE is a type of Windows OS, it runs on a different hardware architecture, and as such you would need to use a compiler that supports producing machine code for that kind of hardware. Quote: Does this new BCBX target WinCE? No. But then, CBX does not target any other platform, for that matter. It is platform-agnostic. You can plug in any compiler toolset you want. If you can find a compiler for WinCE, in theory you should be able to plug in it. Also, when CBX eventually implements .NET support, then you can probably use it to write for the .NET-enabled versions of WinCE. Gambit Back to top Graeme Prentice Guest Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 10:48 am    Post subject: Re: Need some advice... On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:39:40 -0800, "Joe Thompson" <joelizthompson (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: Quote: I just started working on a project that is very GUI intensive. I have always used BCB and suggested that I use it for this project. The tool used to build it has been left up to me with the following stipulation: It may need to be ported to Windows CE someday. That alone pretty much rules out BCB. I don't know much about .Net yet. Does it port to WinCE? Are there third party controls similar to Raize, RX, TComPort, etc. that can be added to the .Net IDE? If so, where is a good source for them? If .Net is not portable to WInCE, is regular VC++? Obviously I'm not very familiar with WinCE so any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Can you just take a Windows program and compile it for WinCE or does special consideration have to be given to button sizes, menus, etc. since it mostly runs on small screens. Does this new BCBX target WinCE? Or what about Delphi( using .Net? I imagine you can find the information you need on Microsoft newsgroups and website, but you may find it useful to look at http://www.wxwindows.org/embedded.htm http://wiki.wxwindows.org/wiki.pl?Developers_Notebook/WxWinCE wxWindows is the framework used in CBX. The winCE port of wxWindows is incomplete at this stage but you might learn something from looking at the wxWindows source code or asking on comp.soft-sys.wxwindows. I don't know if the Borland RAD designer will support WinCE but it might. I guess MS don't have an RAD designer for C++ WinCE. You should try one of the CBX newsgroups about this - there are Borland reps responding in some of those groups. I guess you just need a C++ compiler for the machine you're targetting - if the compiler is GCC you should have no problems with the wxWindows code. Graeme Back to top Graeme Prentice Guest Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: Need some advice... On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:48:38 +1300, Graeme Prentice <invalid (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote: Quote: wxWindows is the framework used in CBX. The winCE port of wxWindows is incomplete at this stage but you might learn something from looking at the wxWindows source code or asking on comp.soft-sys.wxwindows. I don't know if the Borland RAD designer will support WinCE but it might. I forgot to mention - the wx RAD designer is also incomplete at this stage but wxWindows has been used to create Win32 GUIs for several years and wxWindows programs can also be compiled for Linux/GTK and Apple MAC. Back to top Hendrik Schober Guest Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 11:41 am    Post subject: Re: Need some advice... Remy Lebeau (TeamB) <gambit47.no.spam (AT) no (DOT) spam.yahoo.com> wrote: Quote: [...] Can you just take a Windows program and compile it for WinCE No. WinCE is a completely different hardware platform. Even though WinCE is a type of Windows OS, it runs on a different hardware architecture, and as such you would need to use a compiler that supports producing machine code for that kind of hardware. Well, I thought this is what re-compilation was for? Quote: [...] Gambit Schobi -- [email]SpamTrap (AT) gmx (DOT) de[/email] is never read I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org "Sometimes compilers are so much more reasonable than people." Scott Meyers Back to top Ian Chodera Guest Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some advice... Embedded Visual C++ (for CE) is pretty much identical to Visual C++ V6 Windows CE is effectively a cut down version of Windows NT. stuff marked as depreciated in WIN32 API is dropped. eg it ONLY supports Unicode, not MBCS or ANSI, so anything that will compile for CE will pretty well compile for NT flavours (2000, XP etc). The reverse is NOT true. Doing some things on CE is quite tricky with the limited API. One of the problems with CE is that you have to create a project for EACH targeted platform as each has a different set of hardware (and consequently supported API), and you will get a custom platform for each CE kernel. So if you are serious about this route I would develop for CE, and port to NT / 95. I dont know about .net flavours but that may well be your best option, it will probably give a much more uniform environment for all platforms. Regards Ian Joe Thompson wrote: Quote: I just started working on a project that is very GUI intensive. I have always used BCB and suggested that I use it for this project. The tool used to build it has been left up to me with the following stipulation: It may need to be ported to Windows CE someday. That alone pretty much rules out BCB. I don't know much about .Net yet. Does it port to WinCE? Are there third party controls similar to Raize, RX, TComPort, etc. that can be added to the .Net IDE? If so, where is a good source for them? If .Net is not portable to WInCE, is regular VC++? Obviously I'm not very familiar with WinCE so any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Can you just take a Windows program and compile it for WinCE or does special consideration have to be given to button sizes, menus, etc. since it mostly runs on small screens. Does this new BCBX target WinCE? Or what about Delphi( using .Net? Thanks in advance, Joe Back to top Harold Howe [TeamB] Guest Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some advice... Quote: I don't know much about .Net yet. Does it port to WinCE? 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