BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Need Suggestion D8 or D9          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Upgrade View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Maaz Rizki Guest Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:15 pm    Post subject: Need Suggestion D8 or D9 Hi Folks, Currently we are developing in Delphi 7, I am new to delphi world but I like it. One can develop functional program faster than VB. Anyway, now I we contemplating upgrading to higher version that is either D8 or D9. Now the dilemma is shall we wait for Delphi 9 or just go ahead with Delphi 8. - If we go with Delphi 8 all work we did in Delphi 7 would be lost or just simple recompile in Delphi 8? - Secondly does development in Delphi 8 means our application are web ready by default or with little work. Or we have to develop from scratch for web. I'll appreciate if somebody shed some light on subject. Thanks, maaz rizki [email]mrizki (AT) fairwaymarket (DOT) com[/email] Back to top Andrew Skinner Guest Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Need Suggestion D8 or D9 What can't you do in D7? Stick with D7 until D9 is out and working. D7.01 is a really good tool for real windows development. Unless you are aching to do NET development stick with D7. D9 will have some enhancements and NET thrown in. D8 is net only. Andrew "Maaz Rizki" <mrizki (AT) fairwaymarket (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Hi Folks, Currently we are developing in Delphi 7, I am new to delphi world but I like it. One can develop functional program faster than VB. Anyway, now I we contemplating upgrading to higher version that is either D8 or D9. Now the dilemma is shall we wait for Delphi 9 or just go ahead with Delphi 8. - If we go with Delphi 8 all work we did in Delphi 7 would be lost or just simple recompile in Delphi 8? - Secondly does development in Delphi 8 means our application are web ready by default or with little work. Or we have to develop from scratch for web. I'll appreciate if somebody shed some light on subject. Thanks, maaz rizki [email]mrizki (AT) fairwaymarket (DOT) com[/email] Back to top Maaz Rizki Guest Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Need Suggestion D8 or D9 Thanks for prompt reply! Which brings me to another stupid question, is there another version after 7.0, I have Proferssional Version 7.0 build 4453 "Andrew Skinner" <skinnner (AT) getridofthisbit (DOT) summerfld.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:41644cf6 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: What can't you do in D7? Stick with D7 until D9 is out and working. D7.01 is a really good tool for real windows development. Unless you are aching to do NET development stick with D7. D9 will have some enhancements and NET thrown in. D8 is net only. Andrew "Maaz Rizki" <mrizki (AT) fairwaymarket (DOT) com> wrote in message news:41644428$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Hi Folks, Currently we are developing in Delphi 7, I am new to delphi world but I like it. One can develop functional program faster than VB. Anyway, now I we contemplating upgrading to higher version that is either D8 or D9. Now the dilemma is shall we wait for Delphi 9 or just go ahead with Delphi 8. - If we go with Delphi 8 all work we did in Delphi 7 would be lost or just simple recompile in Delphi 8? - Secondly does development in Delphi 8 means our application are web ready by default or with little work. Or we have to develop from scratch for web. I'll appreciate if somebody shed some light on subject. Thanks, maaz rizki [email]mrizki (AT) fairwaymarket (DOT) com[/email] Back to top Leo Saguisag (Borland) Guest Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Need Suggestion D8 or D9 Maaz Rizki wrote: Quote: Which brings me to another stupid question, is there another version after 7.0, I have Proferssional Version 7.0 build 4453 If you are talking about major versions, the latest one is Delphi 8 which targets .NET only. The next Delphi release, codenamed "Diamondback" is currently being worked on. As far as updates to Delphi 7, a patch was released earlier this year. Registered users can get it from BDN. -- Leo Saguisag Delphi l10n engineer About the Borland newsgroups: http://info.borland.com/newsgroups/ Back to top Maaz Rizki Guest Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Need Suggestion D8 or D9 Thanks! "Leo Saguisag (Borland)" <lsaguisag_at_borland_dot_com> wrote Quote: Maaz Rizki wrote: Which brings me to another stupid question, is there another version after 7.0, I have Proferssional Version 7.0 build 4453 If you are talking about major versions, the latest one is Delphi 8 which targets .NET only. The next Delphi release, codenamed "Diamondback" is currently being worked on. As far as updates to Delphi 7, a patch was released earlier this year. Registered users can get it from BDN. -- Leo Saguisag Delphi l10n engineer About the Borland newsgroups: http://info.borland.com/newsgroups/ Back to top Atle Smelvær Guest Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: Need Suggestion D8 or D9 Remember to take a backup of the compiler files, because the update contains a very bad optimizer bug. When the update is finished installing, copy back the compiler files from 7.0 -Atle Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: Need Suggestion D8 or D9 "Atle Smelvær" wrote: Quote: Remember to take a backup of the compiler files, because the update contains a very bad optimizer bug. When the update is finished installing, copy back the compiler files from 7.0 Please keep your posts in perspective. The optimizer slowdown affects only a very small group of users and not the majority of users. It only affects byte by byte comparisons of arrays and measurable in large tight loops. This does not affect most users due to its specific nature. -- Jeff Overcash (TeamB) (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. (RAH) Back to top Daniel Alvarez Guest Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Need Suggestion D8 or D9 Can you be more specific about this assue? Daniel "Atle Smelvær" <atle (AT) datagrafikk (DOT) no> wrote Quote: Remember to take a backup of the compiler files, because the update contains a very bad optimizer bug. When the update is finished installing, copy back the compiler files from 7.0 -Atle Back to top Sasa Zeman Guest Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: Need Suggestion D8 or D9 Quote: Please keep your posts in perspective. The optimizer slowdown affects only a very small group of users and not the majority of users. It only affects byte by byte comparisons of arrays and measurable in large tight loops. This does not affect most users due to its specific nature. Jeff, Maybe little off-topic. However... Your last sentence remind me on Intel's, when they released useless FPU. Please notice that $999 is a lot of money to spend for many people. Specially for a buggy product. Furthermore, Borland have released useless IDE for non-English countries (do not allow correct work with local alphabet on all localizations but on created, saving non-ascii in FRM files). Etc... We all expect at least correct Update. Regards, Sasa Zeman --- www.szutils.net Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Need Suggestion D8 or D9 Sasa Zeman wrote: Quote: We all expect at least correct Update. It is a functionally correct update. In one corner case it is slower, but affects a very small portion of users. -- Jeff Overcash (TeamB) (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. 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