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Esteban Pacheco
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:18 pm    Post subject: Need to buy a Grid component, TOP 3? Reply with quote



Hi guys,

We need to buy a Grid component. Can you guys suggest the best TOP 3. (From
best to not that great)

If there is any good open source one the suggestion is also welcome.

I've heard of Quantum express grid, but i need to make sure that it is the
best option i have.


Thanks in advance.


Esteban Pacheco
http://estebanp.blogspot.com
A Delphi programming Blog.


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Alvaro GP
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Need to buy a Grid component, TOP 3? Reply with quote



Esteban Pacheco wrote:

Quote:
We need to buy a Grid component. Can you guys suggest the best TOP
3. (From best to not that great)

1. TDBGridEh (EhLib). Very featured and very lighweight.

2. TwwDBGrid (Infopower). Lots of features and not too big.

3. QuantumGrid. The most featured but hyperbloated.

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Eric Schreiber
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Need to buy a Grid component, TOP 3? Reply with quote



Esteban Pacheco wrote:

Quote:
We need to buy a Grid component. Can you guys suggest the best TOP
3. (From best to not that great)
I've heard of Quantum express grid, but i need to make sure that it
is the best option i have.

I've only used QGrid myself, so I can't offer insight on any of the
others. However, I think the QuantumGrid is outstanding (and it also
comes with a truckload of additional, very useful components). Pretty
much anything you might want to do with a grid can be done with
QuantumGrid. It's well worth the price.

Do keep in mind, though, that it's not a trivial component. It adds
considerably to the footprint of your application, which isn't at all a
big deal anymore. More importantly, it takes a bit of time to get the
hang of all the ins and outs of the component. You can get a basic one
working in minutes, but to really understand the more involved features
will take some time and patience. Luckily, there is an active
peer-support newsgroup to help with this.



--
Eric Schreiber
Kobayashi Software
www.kobayashi.com

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Johnnie Norsworthy
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Need to buy a Grid component, TOP 3? Reply with quote

You can't go wrong with DevExpress's ExpressQuantumGrid. It is a huge
library that includes almost every visual control you'll need to make a very
professional and customized presentation layer. Plus the grid itself can do
just about anything and has so many built in features like tabbed views,
chart views, grouping, sorting, searching, column moving and resizing ...

(the list goes on and on)

Download their demo EXE and give it a look.

I license their grid, ExpressBars (toolbars/menus/docking), and
ExpressPrintingSystem (which allows printing grids at runtime after they are
customized by the end user). My Win32 applications are basically built
around these superb tools.

-Johnnie

My largest EXE using the DevExpress libraries, ReportBuilder, Indy, web
services, DBISAM, and a few small libraries, is about 10 meg.



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Alvaro GP
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Need to buy a Grid component, TOP 3? Reply with quote

Eric Schreiber wrote:

Quote:
It adds
considerably to the footprint of your application, which isn't at all
a big deal anymore.

It's indeed interesting how you suddenly decided that footprint isn't a
big deal for Esteban. Amazing, really..

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Bob Dawson
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Need to buy a Grid component, TOP 3? Reply with quote

"Alvaro GP" wrote ...nothing of consequence.

If you have a different recommendation, feel free to make it.

bobD


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Ian H.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Need to buy a Grid component, TOP 3? Reply with quote

I'm currently using TopGrid. It's OK, can't comment how it compare to others
though.

http://www.objectsight.com/TopGridOverview.htm

IanH.


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marc hoffman
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Need to buy a Grid component, TOP 3? Reply with quote

Quote:
We need to buy a Grid component. Can you guys suggest the best TOP 3.

- DevExpress Quantum Grid 5
- DevExpress Quantum Grid 5
- DevExpress Quantum Grid 5

;)


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Chief Architect, .NET
RemObjects Software
http://www.chromesville.com

and the fifty-two daughters of the revolution
turn the gold to chrome



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Alvaro GP
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Need to buy a Grid component, TOP 3? Reply with quote

Bob Dawson wrote:

Quote:
If you have a different recommendation, feel free to make it.

I already did it. Why don't you read a little before replying?

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Bryce K. Nielsen
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Need to buy a Grid component, TOP 3? Reply with quote

Quote:
It's indeed interesting how you suddenly decided that footprint isn't a
big deal for Esteban. Amazing, really..

Woa, someone forget to take their ritalin this morning? Why the abrasive,
unhelpful reply?

IMHO, I agree with Eric, the days of trying to fit your application on a 3.5
floppy are gone. Particularly if your application is using a Grid, most
likely means it's a large, client/server app and the extra 2mb DevExpress
gives you aren't going to be that big of a deal. And considering the
additional features DevExpress gives, it's definately worth it.

There's only one drawback to DevExpress, lack of Unicode support...

-BKN



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Bryce K. Nielsen
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Need to buy a Grid component, TOP 3? Reply with quote

If you don't need Unicode, DevExpress' QuantumGrid. Amazing component.

If you do need Unicode, I'd recommend looking at the VirtualTreeList. It's
got an interesting learning curve, but the results are good.

-BKN


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JED
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Need to buy a Grid component, TOP 3? Reply with quote

Esteban Pacheco wrote:

Quote:
We need to buy a Grid component. Can you guys suggest the best TOP
3. (From best to not that great)

Not until you give us some requirements.

I would think the top 3 would all be very good. You may have to go for
top 10. Where number 10 is TDBGrid.

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Kev French
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Need to buy a Grid component, TOP 3? Reply with quote

"Esteban Pacheco" wrote...
Quote:
We need to buy a Grid component. Can you guys suggest the best TOP 3.
(From best to not that great)

Hi Esteban

It might be an idea to give your criteria for what you'd consider "Top". As
Alvaro's illustrated some people might consider a smaller footprint a
greater benefit than features, which is fine as long as the features
provided meet both your technical requirements and your customers'
expectations.

Personally, I don't have a top 3 for you - only a top 1 - Express
QuantumGrid. Blew me away in '99 when I first saw it and it keeps getting
better and better. I like to exceed my customers' expectations and over six
years later EQGrid is still helping me to do it Wink As Eric points out it's
vast feature set will require some investment to get the most from it but
it's well worth the effort.

Good luck

Kev



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Alvaro GP
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Need to buy a Grid component, TOP 3? Reply with quote

Bryce K. Nielsen wrote:

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the days of trying to fit your application
on a 3.5 floppy are gone

Sometimes you want to make your application as little as possible, for
many reasons, for example to save download time, bandwidth, startup
time, etc. Many times you don't need a ton of bells and whistles. In
these situations, using QuantumGrid may be ill advised.

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Herbert Sitz
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Need to buy a Grid component, TOP 3? Reply with quote

"Alvaro GP" <alvarogp (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Bryce K. Nielsen wrote:

the days of trying to fit your application
on a 3.5 floppy are gone

Sometimes you want to make your application as little as possible, for
many reasons, for example to save download time, bandwidth, startup
time, etc. Many times you don't need a ton of bells and whistles. In
these situations, using QuantumGrid may be ill advised.

Innosetup compresses a 4 MB executable to about 1MB, a 3 MB executable to
about 750KB. Makes next to no difference in a download. I'm not saying
difference of 250KB or 500KB in a download are _never_ important, but I
expect there are very few projects where it's important enough to drive my
choice of an important component.

Size of executable doesn't affect startup time. My understanding is that
Windows starts program before it's entirely loaded into memory. In any
case, my 12MB executable loads in a snap.

-- Herbert Sitz





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