BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Need to sit down take a deep breath and drink a glass of wat          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Colin B Maharaj Guest Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:41 am    Post subject: Need to sit down take a deep breath and drink a glass of wat oh my.... I am currently (finally) doing a Computing and Information Systems degree course here in Trinidad. I do not have a degree or any qualifications for that matter (Except for an archaic telecoms deploma) and thought it was time to get some 'stuff' so I can be more marketable. I'm in my second semester of the first year. We had to choose four out of six subjects, unfortunately, the school dropped two this year.. they were .. Structured Programming and Visual Basic (phewww). So we were given a complusary 4 subjects, they were.... A+, Networking, Web Page Design and E-Commerce. Some people made a fuss about this and we were told that there were not enough people in the class interested in programming, and that it was not viable for the school to hire a lecturer. No Problemo.... THEN THE PERSON EXPLAINING THIS, SAID THAT PROGRAMMERS AND NOT IN GREAT DEMAND IN TRINIDAD, AND PROGRAMMERS ARE REALLY SYSTEM INTEGRATERS THAT ARE NO LONGER NEEDED SINCE PEOPLESOFT AND S.A.P. ARE FULL SOLUTION PACKAGES. FINALLY HE SAID THAT TRINIDADIANS WERE NOT PATIENT PEOPLE WHO LIKE TO THINK THINGS THROUGH AND THUS, WE ARE NOT A NATION OF PROGRAMMERS, AND MOST PROGRAMMERS END UP TEACHING 'CAUSE THEY CANNOT GET A JOB....AND HE WENT AHEAD TO DISCOURAGE PROGRAMMING ALL TOGETHER. cool down cool down.....breath in.... breath out...10,9,8....2,1 Folks, I did not like what was said cause it means I am either not a true programmer or I am not a true Trinidadian. Back to top Stuart Borden Guest Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:28 am    Post subject: Re: Need to sit down take a deep breath and drink a glass of On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:41:53 -0400, Colin B Maharaj <noreply (AT) myhost (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: oh my.... snip Oh, come on. Don't you recognize someone who tried *and FAILED* to be a programmer? Programmers are a dime a dozen. Good programmers a dollar a pair. Software Engineers and Developers will always be in demand. StuartB. Back to top Bruce Salzman Guest Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:47 am    Post subject: Re: Need to sit down take a deep breath and drink a glass of Quote: I am currently (finally) doing a Computing and Information Systems degree course here in Trinidad. I do not have a degree or any qualifications for that matter (Except for an archaic telecoms deploma) and thought it was time to get some 'stuff' so I can be more marketable. snip FINALLY HE SAID THAT TRINIDADIANS WERE NOT PATIENT PEOPLE WHO LIKE TO THINK THINGS THROUGH AND THUS, WE ARE NOT A NATION OF PROGRAMMERS, AND MOST PROGRAMMERS END UP TEACHING 'CAUSE THEY CANNOT GET A JOB....AND HE WENT AHEAD TO DISCOURAGE PROGRAMMING ALL TOGETHER. I'm sure there are good reasons to attend college in Trinidad (my local forecast says a low of 30F tonight), but I wonder if you are getting a good value for your tuition dollar. Regards, Bruce Back to top Colin B Maharaj Guest Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: Need to sit down take a deep breath and drink a glass of Quote: I'm sure there are good reasons to attend college in Trinidad (my local forecast says a low of 30F tonight), but I wonder if you are getting a good value for your tuition dollar. Regards, Bruce Well I live in Trinidad and I am doing too much here to leave right now, also the courses are based on an English system and not Trinidadian so the degree will eventually be an English one. Also the weather is always nice and the temperature is always between 17 celcius in the night and 35 celcius in the day. I live in the Tropics and it has treated me well so far. I will be attending the Borcon next year hopefully and I am planning on leaving my job very soon to do development full time. Finally I think I want to migrate one day probably to USA or Canada but with the 9/11 stuff and the fact that my physical appearance is that of an East Indian and probably a Pakistani I think I will be under a lot of pressure with paranoid national security officiers (understood). But I do not really have a problem with this per say 'cause I have nothing to hide, just I will be an unfortunate victim of constant servalance. 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