BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  New BCB details Goto page 1, 2  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message David Perkins Guest Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:29 pm    Post subject: New BCB details Lifted from the Delphi.non-tech forum http://www.bitwisemag.com/media/video/iv/davidi_june2005/davidi_interview_part2.wmv Back to top Alex Bakaev [TeamB] Guest Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: New BCB details David Perkins wrote: Quote: Lifted from the Delphi.non-tech forum http://www.bitwisemag.com/media/video/iv/davidi_june2005/davidi_interview_part2.wmv Well, there were some amusing points... ..a Back to top David Erbas-White Guest Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: New BCB details David Perkins wrote: Quote: Lifted from the Delphi.non-tech forum http://www.bitwisemag.com/media/video/iv/davidi_june2005/davidi_interview_part2.wmv While I appreciate the 'notice', the only apparently relevant information is that the new BCB will be out 'later this year' (minor points being essentially that it will be Win32 with no new 'stuff' other than being hosted in the Delphi 2005 IDE, all of which has already been discussed). You don't think you could have simply said that, rather than have me take several minutes out of my day to download and listen to it? David Erbas-White P.S. I find it interesting that David I. is able to give this interview stating a timeframe, yet there is no posted announcement of timeframe, even as we speak, on the Borland forums. Back to top Bob Swart Guest Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: New BCB details Hi David, Quote: Lifted from the Delphi.non-tech forum http://www.bitwisemag.com/media/video/iv/davidi_june2005/davidi_interview_part2.wmv Please refer to the content page (with more explanation about where and then the interview was taken), and not just the media file, thanks. http://www.bitwisemag.com/copy/programming/borland/davidivid_june2005.html Or go to the main page, and click on the interview link. Groetjes, Bob Swart (aka Dr.Bob - www.DrBob42.com) -- Bob Swart Training & Consultancy (eBob42) - Borland Technology Partner Delphi 2005 PDF manuals available from http://www.drbob42.com/training Back to top Remy Lebeau (TeamB) Guest Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: New BCB details "David Erbas-White" <derbas (AT) arachneering (DOT) com> wrote Quote: While I appreciate the 'notice', the only apparently relevant information is that the new BCB will be out 'later this year' (minor points being essentially that it will be Win32 with no new 'stuff' other than being hosted in the Delphi 2005 IDE, all of which has already been discussed). David I did say that the latest VCL would be available to C++ users. Delphi has enjoyed several years of VCL updates since the last version of BCB was released. Gambit Back to top David Erbas-White Guest Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: New BCB details Remy Lebeau (TeamB) wrote: Quote: "David Erbas-White" <derbas (AT) arachneering (DOT) com> wrote in message news:42a08e22$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... While I appreciate the 'notice', the only apparently relevant information is that the new BCB will be out 'later this year' (minor points being essentially that it will be Win32 with no new 'stuff' other than being hosted in the Delphi 2005 IDE, all of which has already been discussed). David I did say that the latest VCL would be available to C++ users. Delphi has enjoyed several years of VCL updates since the last version of BCB was released. Yes, and this has been the major focus of every single statement Borland has made -- so this is not new information. I reiterate, the ONLY new information (if you can call it that) is that it will be released "later this year". David Erbas-White Back to top Randall Parker Guest Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: New BCB details Remy Lebeau (TeamB) wrote: Quote: David I did say that the latest VCL would be available to C++ users. Delphi has enjoyed several years of VCL updates since the last version of BCB was released. Yes, but everyone already assumes that. It would take more work to use an old VCL with C++ in the same IDE that is built with the new VCL. I wonder if they will make any C++ specific improvements such as better C++ standards support, compiler and linker bug fixes, CodeGuard bug fixes, better project management, or better debugger support for templates. I have low expectations. But I'd really like to be surprised in a positive way. Quote: Gambit Back to top Remy Lebeau (TeamB) Guest Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: New BCB details "David Erbas-White" <derbas (AT) arachneering (DOT) com> wrote Quote: I reiterate, the ONLY new information (if you can call it that) is that it will be released "later this year". He did not actually say that it would be released at that time, only that their goal is then. Gambit Back to top David Erbas-White Guest Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: New BCB details Remy Lebeau (TeamB) wrote: Quote: He did not actually say that it would be released at that time, only that their goal is then. I give up. Several responses come to mind, but the best, I guess, is... "...this conversation can serve purpose anymore. Goodbye." David Erbas-White Back to top Duane Hebert Guest Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: New BCB details "Randall Parker" <STOPtechiepundit (AT) EVILfuturePOXpunditSPAM (DOT) com> wrote Quote: I have low expectations. But I'd really like to be surprised in a positive way. I was under the impression that the next version would use Dinkumware instead of STLPort. Is this just wishful thinking? Back to top Alisdair Meredith[TeamB] Guest Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: New BCB details Duane Hebert wrote: Quote: I was under the impression that the next version would use Dinkumware instead of STLPort. Is this just wishful thinking? I believe that was mentioned in the online chat with Eli Boling a few months back, and is generally regarded as Very Good News <g> AlisdairM(TeamB) Back to top Danila Vershinin Guest Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: New BCB details The only detail that is right on the surface..is that we have to wait, ....wait a long, long, long time and noone knows how long that woul be... Back to top Duane Hebert Guest Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: New BCB details "Danila Vershinin" <danprep (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote Quote: The only detail that is right on the surface..is that we have to wait, ...wait a long, long, long time and noone knows how long that woul be... But fortunately, since we don't know what we're wating for, it's not a big deal <g> Maybe Borland should consider renaming themselves to Sirius Cybernetics Corporation. Seriously, are they planning to announce any details before release? They haven't typically listed fixes/enhancements with previous releases AFAICT. Back to top Daniel Mayo Guest Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: New BCB details Quote: Seriously, are they planning to announce any details before release? They haven't typically listed fixes/enhancements with previous releases AFAICT. Wouldn't it be nice if Borland announced the following things would happen in the new release: Improved IDE: - Code Insight actually works (without slowing down IDE development) - Precompiled headers are no longer necessary (dramatically improved compile time) (Two of my pet peaves; and about the only two things I like in MSVS more than in Borland) Perhaps we can give them a list? Back to top Pete Fraser Guest Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: New BCB details The good thing about Borland's code insight is that it is actually doing the code insight through the compiler and so it actually changes as code before it changes. So it is very accurate as opposed to VS which isn't accurate (or so I'm told - it may be better now). Pre-compiled headers are also used by VS but they call it something else. I had a colleague using VS whose compile time went from 10's of minutes to less than a minute using precompiled headers in VS 6. The more headers you include, the slower the compiler becomes and VCL includes a lot of headers. HTH Pete "Daniel Mayo" <dmayo (AT) reply (DOT) via.newsgroup.com> wrote Quote: Seriously, are they planning to announce any details before release? They haven't typically listed fixes/enhancements with previous releases AFAICT. Wouldn't it be nice if Borland announced the following things would happen in the new release: Improved IDE: - Code Insight actually works (without slowing down IDE development) - Precompiled headers are no longer necessary (dramatically improved compile time) (Two of my pet peaves; and about the only two things I like in MSVS more than in Borland) Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2   Jump to: Select a forum C++ Builder Newsgroups----------------C++ BuilderC++ Builder (ActiveX)C++ Builder (Announcements)C++ Builder (Command Line Tools)C++ Builder DatabasesC++ Builder Databases (ADO)C++ Builder Databases (Desktop)C++ Builder Databases (InterBase Express)C++ Builder Databases (Multi-Tier)C++ Builder Databases (SQL Servers)C++ Builder (Graphics)C++ Builder (IDE)C++ Builder (Internet)C++ Builder (Internet Socket)C++ Builder (Internet Web)C++ Builder (Jobs)C++ Builder (Language)C++ Builder (Language C++)C++ Builder (Compatibility with MFC)C++ Builder (Native API)C++ Builder (Non-Technical)C++ Builder (Students)C++ Builder (Third Party Tools)C++ Builder (Upgrade)C++ Builder (VCL)C++ Builder (VCL Components Usage)C++ Builder (VCL Components Development)C++ Builder (VCL Usage)C++ Builder (WinAPI)C++ Builder Installation Delphi Newsgroups----------------Delphi (General)Delphi ActiveX Controls UsageDelphi ActiveX Controls DevelopmentDelphi As400Delphi DatabasesDelphi Databases (ADO)Delphi Databases (dbExpress)Delphi Databases (Desktop)Delphi Databases (InterBase Express)Delphi Databases (Multi-Tier)Delphi Databases (SQL Servers)Delphi DeploymentDelphi GraphicsDelphi IDEDelphi InternationalizationDelphi InternetDelphi Internet Isapi-WebBrokerDelphi Internet WebSnapDelphi Internet WinsockDelphi JobsDelphi Language BASMDelphi Language ObjectPascalDelphi Model Driven Architecture (General)Delphi Model Driven Architecture (Third Party)Delphi MultimediaDelphi Native APIDelphi Non-TechnicalDelphi ObjectPascalDelphi OLE AutomationDelphi OO designDelphi OpenToolsAPIDelphi Reporting-ChartingDelphi RTLDelphi StudentsDelphi TeamSourceDelphi Thirdparty ToolsDelphi Thirdparty Tools (General)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (RaveReports)Delphi UpgradeDelphi VCLDelphi VCL ComponentsDelphi VCL Components UsingDelphi VCL Components WritingDelphi WebServices SOAPDelphi WinAPIDelphi XMLDelphi Installationcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.misccomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usagecomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.writingcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.databasescomp.lang.pascal.delphi.misccomp.sources.delphi JBuilder Newsgroups----------------JBuilderJBuilder AnnouncementsJBuilder Applet IssuesJBuilder As400JBuilder CompilerJBuilder CORBA/RMIJBuilder DatabasesJBuilder DB SwingJBuilder DebuggerJBuilder DeploymentJBuilder DocumentationJBuilder EnterpriseJBuilder HandheldJBuilder IDEJBuilder JavaJBuilder JavaAPIJBuilder Java LanguageJBuilder Java SwingJBuilder Java BeansJBuilder Java Beans UsageJBuilder Java Beans DevelopmentJBuilder JBCLJBuilder JDataStoreJBuilder JobsJBuilder LinuxJBuilder MacintoshJBuilder & MobileSetJBuilder MultiLingual AppsJBuilder Non-TechnicalJBuilder OpenToolsJBuilder Servlets (JSP)JBuilder StudentsJBuilder Team DevelopmentJBuilder Thirdparty ToolsJBuilder UpgradeJBuilder Installation InterBase Newsgroups----------------InterBaseInterBase Bug DiscussionInterBase GeneralInterBase IBConsoleInterBase OpenSourceInterBase ReplicationInterBase SQLInterBase ThirdpartyInterBase Installation Miscellaneous Borland Newsgroups----------------AppCenterAppServerEnteraVisiBroker  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.