BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Sandro Iacovozzi Guest Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:18 pm    Post subject: New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,32845,00.html " Borland will continue to develop VCL-based C++. " We are very happy... Sandro Iacovozzi (Italy) Back to top OBones Guest Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! Sandro Iacovozzi wrote: Quote: http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,32845,00.html " Borland will continue to develop VCL-based C++. " We are very happy... Sandro Iacovozzi (Italy) Interesting... Sceptical me thinks it's a fake put there by some bad taste person Trusty me thinks it's the real thing and is really happy But then again, this is published one day before the 15th, so sceptical me is a bit stronger in my troubled mind... Back to top Anders Ohlsson (Borland) Guest Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:28 pm    Post subject: Re: New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! Quote: Trusty me thinks it's the real thing and is really happy Trust trusty you. -- Anders Ohlsson - Borland Developer Relations - http://bdn.borland.com/ Borland Software Corporation - http://www.borland.com/ - Excellence Endures Enabling our customers to move into the future without abandoning their past http://blogs.borland.com/ao/ http://homepages.borland.com/aohlsson/blog_beta/#disclaimer Back to top Des O'Toole Guest Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:33 pm    Post subject: Re: New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! "Anders Ohlsson (Borland)" <aohlsson (AT) borland (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Trusty me thinks it's the real thing and is really happy Trust trusty you. I was also a bit sceptical that it was the real thing, but it looks like some of you start work really early. I was a bit taken aback by the brevity of the message, but obviously the content is excellent news. Des Back to top OBones Guest Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! Anders Ohlsson (Borland) wrote: Quote: Trusty me thinks it's the real thing and is really happy Trust trusty you. Then this is really good. I'm really surprised because that letter is not full of the usual lawyer's talk that one would expect in any communication coming from a big company. But that makes it more readable and way clearer to understand, which clearly is a good thing. And because it was said "news on OR before 15th", I guess there won't be anything tomorrow, right? Finally, and if no one is already doing it, I could do a French translation of this letter if you want to. I know there are quite a few French speaking developpers who would be happy to hear about that. Thanks for the news. Cheers Olivier Sannier JVCL Coordinator Back to top David Perkins Guest Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! Quote: " Borland will continue to develop VCL-based C++. " This is good news. I hope it appears before Delphi 2006. Back to top Simon D Guest Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! "Sandro Iacovozzi" <progettazione (AT) infoitaliasrl (DOT) com> wrote Quote: http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,32845,00.html " Borland will continue to develop VCL-based C++. " We are very happy... Sandro Iacovozzi (Italy) "It is our intention to include this personality in or before the next major release of Delphi." When is that expected? Back to top Duane Hebert Guest Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! "Anders Ohlsson (Borland)" <aohlsson (AT) borland (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Trusty me thinks it's the real thing and is really happy Trust trusty you. What about CBX? Back to top Sebastian Ledesma Guest Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! Yes, that's the question, the letter is pretty ambigue :-) "The next version of C++Builder will be part of the Delphi IDE family", so Delphi 2005 will include C++/VCL support (and do not confuse with Borland C++ 2005 wich is the sucessor of CBX). "enabling you to take advantage of the latest Delphi VCL and IDE framework and many of the new C++ features that you have requested. It is our intention to include this personality IN OR BEFORE before the next major release of Delphi. We will be communicating additional details and timelines as they become available. " I think Borland want to have real products, so they no are announcing nothing really right now (except to include C++ personality in Delphi BDS ) .. Also note that the letter is not signed by any person in particular (so no one can be personally blamed for not honour the wroted word ) Saludos Sebastian "David Perkins" <please (AT) no-spam (DOT) com> escribió en el mensaje news:41befcd0$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: " Borland will continue to develop VCL-based C++. " This is good news. I hope it appears before Delphi 2006. Back to top Vladimir Stefanovic Guest Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! Hi, (Not a joke) Is that the *expected* open letter? Best regards, Vladimir Stefanovic Sandro Iacovozzi <progettazione (AT) infoitaliasrl (DOT) com> wrote Quote: http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,32845,00.html " Borland will continue to develop VCL-based C++. " We are very happy... Sandro Iacovozzi (Italy) Back to top Gillmer J. Derge [TeamB] Guest Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! Lester Caine wrote: Quote: An why was it so difficult to produce this statement. The statement is easy to make. It's the commitment to back it up that's hard. Quote: I *THOUGHT* that what has been written had already been said at BorCon ? Not exactly. At BorCon they said that they had been working toward a similar goal but that they stopped that work and weren't certain whether they would start again. -- Gillmer J. Derge [TeamB] Back to top Lester Caine Guest Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! Simon D wrote: Quote: " Borland will continue to develop VCL-based C++. " We are very happy... "It is our intention to include this personality in or before the next major release of Delphi." When is that expected? An why was it so difficult to produce this statement. I *THOUGHT* that what has been written had already been said at BorCon ? So when is the next version of Delphi due - have I got to register with those groups now? I don't see why this statement has 10 Excellent votes. The only alternative statement would have been 'Builder is dead' - we still don't know WHAT the time scales are - which is much more important than yes vcl C++ is alive. -- Lester Caine ----------------------------- L.S.Caine Electronic Services Back to top Mike Crapo Guest Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:28 pm    Post subject: Re: New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:18:15 +0100, "Sandro Iacovozzi" <progettazione (AT) infoitaliasrl (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,32845,00.html " Borland will continue to develop VCL-based C++. " We are very happy... Sandro Iacovozzi (Italy) I am very happy to see that Borland has decided to keep there C++ VCL product alive. This comes as welcomed news. I look forward to the upcoming release, and hope it will be sooner than later. Thanks for the word Borland Mike. Back to top Lester Caine Guest Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! Gillmer J. Derge [TeamB] wrote: Quote: I *THOUGHT* that what has been written had already been said at BorCon ? Not exactly. At BorCon they said that they had been working toward a similar goal but that they stopped that work and weren't certain whether they would start again. So it's a case of "we've started again and may finish sometime" ;) -- Lester Caine ----------------------------- L.S.Caine Electronic Services Back to top Gillmer J. Derge [TeamB] Guest Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: New Borland Open Letter to the C++ Comunity !!! Lester Caine wrote: Quote: So it's a case of "we've started again and may finish sometime" Basically. Actually, on further thought, it says we *will* finish sometime. -- Gillmer J. 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