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At some stage I must have mentioned that I was moving some previously C# .NET web services into Delphi, which must have struck a chord as I am mostly in W32. He asked if it was .NET as he thought it was native and I replied it is both. I enjoy watching people's jaws drop at that . I thought he was going to keel over when I mentioned it does C#, and soon, C++. Now his interest level must have gone through the roof as he couldn't believe that he had not even heard of Delphi except through me, and yet it was a system capable of all that! (a sad reflection). So to help enlighten him I have shown him what it looks like etc. He liked what he saw and wanted to have a play in it so I give him my copy of the APC magazine which has D2005 personal on its cover disc. However, I know that there is (also very regrettably) absolutely nothing in the magazine itself about Delphi. I kind of expected a basic walk through or something. From APC's point of view it would have been a good way to entice follow-on sales, but thats another story. So now I want to point him in the right direction to get started. Where to put variable declarations and things of that nature which are different to C# and Java. Also how the IDE works/layout etc. Does anyone out there know of a really good D2005 (D2005 specifically as the IDE layout is different for starters) starters web site? I would like a good (free) place to point him to help wet his appetite for Delphi. Thanks in advance. Robin. -- Robin. <disclaimer> Not an expert </disclaimer> Back to top Lauchlan M Guest Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:57 pm    Post subject: Re: New to Delphi Quote: I was wondering if anyone had some good recommendations on beginners D2005 web sites with walk-throughs. Ideally it would explain the structure of Delphi code and the IDE features them selves. I'd recommend books. When it's released: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0782143423/qid=1119830358/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-0430363-1226564 In the meanwhile for Delphi for Win32: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/078214201X/ref=pd_sim_b_1/102-0430363-1226564?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance for Delphi.net: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0672324431/ref=pd_sim_b_1/102-0430363-1226564?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance Quote: Now his interest level must have gone through the roof as he couldn't believe that he had not even heard of Delphi except through me, and yet it was a system capable of all that! (a sad reflection). So to help enlighten him I have shown him what it looks like etc. He liked what he saw and wanted to have a play in it so I give him my copy of the APC magazine which has D2005 personal on its cover disc. I think he'd be better off with the D2005 Architect trial version you could download from the Borland website. The eprsonal version is extremely limited. Quote: Does anyone out there know of a really good D2005 (D2005 specifically as the IDE layout is different for starters) starters web site? I would like a good (free) place to point him to help wet his appetite for Delphi. I don't know of one. I suggest fire it up, use the help file, ask questions on these ng's and get Marco's D2005 book when its published. HTH Lauchlan M Back to top David Clegg Guest Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:08 am    Post subject: Re: New to Delphi Robin wrote: Quote: Does anyone out there know of a really good D2005 (D2005 specifically as the IDE layout is different for starters) starters web site? I would like a good (free) place to point him to help wet his appetite for Delphi. While not D2005 specific, I would certainly recommend http://www.delphibasics.co.uk/ . Also let him know about the friendly Delphi community, and point his newsreader to newsgroups.borland.com. It may be a good idea to steer him away from this particular ng for a little while though. :-) -- Cheers, David Clegg [email]dclegg (AT) gmail (DOT) com[/email] Vote 1 http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=21489 Now supports Google Groups searching with Dyna-extend(tm) technology! QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. http://qc.borland.com "Marge, you being a cop makes you the man! Which makes me the woman -- and I have no interest in that, besides occasionally wearing the underwear, which as we discussed, is strictly a comfort thing." - Homer Simpson Back to top damian marquez Guest Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:58 am    Post subject: Re: New to Delphi Ben Hochstrasser <bhoc@tiscali123^H^H^H.ch> wrote: Quote: You see, I have a friend who has rudimentary programming skills having almost completed his University degree in computing. Ahem...er... screams and runs for the hills I've seen many cases. Myself with only a couple of months (lol, really) in the university doing the IT career have done most of a friend of mine's final work to get his degree. He does the analysis part though. I do the programming, he knows a bit only (no pun intended ) -- Have you seen Marillion's Marbles? Visit www.marillion.com and get in touch with the most amazing music... Back to top Alessandro Federici Guest Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:55 am    Post subject: Re: New to Delphi "Robin" <Robin@.com> wrote [..] Quote: Does anyone out there know of a really good D2005 (D2005 specifically as the IDE layout is different for starters) starters web site? I would like a good (free) place to point him to help wet his appetite for Delphi. I know you wrote 2005, but I think it might be worth looking at Marco Cantu free guides on www.marcocantu.com as well, regardless of them being based on an older version -- Best regards, Alessandro Federici Chief Architecture Designer RemObjects Software, Inc. ----------------------------- http://www.remobjects.com Back to top Captain Jake Guest Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:02 am    Post subject: Re: New to Delphi Lauchlan M <LMackinnonAT_NoSpam_ozemailDOTcomDOTau> wrote in message <42bf425b (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com> Quote: I'd recommend books. At least you can take them with you to a comfortable recliner and peruse them without burning your leg. -- ***Free Your Mind*** Posted with Reader3000-BETA 0.9.4.874 Back to top Zarko Guest Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: New to Delphi Robin, Here's a resource he could check: http://delphi.about.com/od/delphifornet/ ~Zarko Gajic "Robin" <Robin@.com> wrote Quote: Hi all, I was wondering if anyone had some good recommendations on beginners D2005 web sites with walk-throughs. Ideally it would explain the structure of Delphi code and the IDE features them selves. You see, I have a friend who has rudimentary programming skills having almost completed his University degree in computing. However they teach mainly command line Java and he has /some/ experience in VS2003 (C#). He often sees me happily tinkering away in my Delphi 2005 Pro, and we talk regularly about it when I mention something really cool that it does and/or how much I love it. At some stage I must have mentioned that I was moving some previously C# .NET web services into Delphi, which must have struck a chord as I am mostly in W32. He asked if it was .NET as he thought it was native and I replied it is both. I enjoy watching people's jaws drop at that . I thought he was going to keel over when I mentioned it does C#, and soon, C++. Now his interest level must have gone through the roof as he couldn't believe that he had not even heard of Delphi except through me, and yet it was a system capable of all that! (a sad reflection). So to help enlighten him I have shown him what it looks like etc. He liked what he saw and wanted to have a play in it so I give him my copy of the APC magazine which has D2005 personal on its cover disc. However, I know that there is (also very regrettably) absolutely nothing in the magazine itself about Delphi. I kind of expected a basic walk through or something. From APC's point of view it would have been a good way to entice follow-on sales, but thats another story. So now I want to point him in the right direction to get started. Where to put variable declarations and things of that nature which are different to C# and Java. Also how the IDE works/layout etc. Does anyone out there know of a really good D2005 (D2005 specifically as the IDE layout is different for starters) starters web site? I would like a good (free) place to point him to help wet his appetite for Delphi. Thanks in advance. Robin. -- Robin. disclaimer> Not an expert Back to top Derek Davidson Guest Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: New to Delphi David Clegg wrote: Quote: While not D2005 specific, I would certainly recommend http://www.delphibasics.co.uk/ . Agreed. Brilliant site. -- Derek Davidson Back to top Jeroen Vandezande Guest Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: New to Delphi "Alessandro Federici" <alef (AT) youknowwhat (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "Robin" <Robin@.com> wrote in message news:42bf3d2d$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... [..] Does anyone out there know of a really good D2005 (D2005 specifically as the IDE layout is different for starters) starters web site? I would like a good (free) place to point him to help wet his appetite for Delphi. I know you wrote 2005, but I think it might be worth looking at Marco Cantu free guides on www.marcocantu.com as well, regardless of them being based on an older version Yes, I learned MANY things about Delphi and OOP from his books. I think he is a good writer. Best Regards, Jeroen Vandezande Back to top Alessandro Federici Guest Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:12 pm    Post subject: Re: New to Delphi "Jeroen Vandezande" <NoSpam> wrote [..] Quote: Yes, I learned MANY things about Delphi and OOP from his books. I think he is a good writer. He sure is and he's a great speaker as well. -- Best regards, Alessandro Federici Chief Architecture Designer RemObjects Software, Inc. ----------------------------- http://www.remobjects.com Back to top Ingvar Nilsen Guest Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: New to Delphi Alessandro Federici wrote: Quote: I know you wrote 2005, but I think it might be worth looking at Marco Cantu free guides on www.marcocantu.com as well, regardless of them being based on an older version A good advice. I have always found Marco's presentation style to be especially suited for those "new to Delphi". -- Ingvar Nilsen http://www.ingvarius.com Back to top Robin Guest Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:38 pm    Post subject: Re: New to Delphi Thank you everyone for your input! -- Robin. <disclaimer> Not an expert </disclaimer> Back to top Peter Zolja Guest Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:20 am    Post subject: Re: New to Delphi Quote: Here's a resource he could check: http://delphi.about.com/od/delphifornet/ ~Zarko Gajic Totally agree, Zarko is doing an awesome job on this site!!! It can be a really useful tool for a beginner (and not only), especially he's the type to learn by making small projects :-) Back to top Didier Largange Guest Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:34 pm    Post subject: Re: New to Delphi Quote: While not D2005 specific, I would certainly recommend http://www.delphibasics.co.uk/ . Agreed. Brilliant site. I'm astonished !!! How is it that I didn't never come across this ?! This is exactly what most new users need before buying more advance books. Didier Back to top Dan Barclay Guest Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: New to Delphi (help from another newbie) Actually, I was going to recommend this, but the OP said he was looking specifically for IDE stuff. Generic newbies (which I am well qualified<g>) should start with a couple of things (new to Delphi, not new to programming): Cantu's "Mastering Delphi 7" - go cover to cover. Delphi Basics site, as suggested here. The site itself is great, but download the local copy (a small fee but well worth it). I use the Delphi Basics more *after* I read Cantu. That's the stuff you need while actually writing code (Cantu is for base understanding and strategy). Unfortunately, you also end up using Delphi Basics for what should be more easily found with Delphi Help as well. Second suggestion for a newbie: Use two monitors on your machine. If you have a laptop, this is probably very easy to set up. Program on one (Delphi IDE takes up the entire screen to do anything useful), use the other for "Help" (Help, Delphi Basics, Google). Dan "Didier Largange" <d.largange_remove (AT) logicantilles (DOT) com> wrote Quote: While not D2005 specific, I would certainly recommend http://www.delphibasics.co.uk/ . Agreed. Brilliant site. I'm astonished !!! How is it that I didn't never come across this ?! This is exactly what most new users need before buying more advance books. 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