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Steve
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 8:56 pm    Post subject: Newsgroups Reply with quote



I'm having some problems getting these newsgroups on my computer, so i had
an idea.
Is there a component that i can set up to read newsgroups? I'd prefer
something that came with Delphi 7 rather than downloading extras.

-Steve


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Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Newsgroups Reply with quote



"Steve" <darkpho66 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:400af310$1
@newsgroups.borland.com:
Quote:
I'm having some problems getting these newsgroups on my computer, so i had
an idea.
Is there a component that i can set up to read newsgroups? I'd prefer
something that came with Delphi 7 rather than downloading extras.

http://www.indyproject.org/

It's also included in D7.


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Steve
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Newsgroups Reply with quote



Quote:
http://www.indyproject.org/

It's also included in D7.

I guess the TIdNNTP is the component i need, althought here are alot to
choose from.
Where can i find decent documentation on the Indy components? The info in my
help file is bare or non-existant, and the Indy website doesnt seem to be
any better.



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TheBigBadWolf
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Newsgroups Reply with quote

For me it helped a lot to look at :
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc977.html
for the standard commands
and
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2980.html
for the xover command (which i find very usefull)

If your still lost you can write me an email
wolfganglecher at gmx dot at (at =@, dot=.)
and I can send you a little newsreader
I did with VirtualTreeView (delphi-gems.com) and
indy-nntp-client.

wolf


"Steve" <darkpho66 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
http://www.indyproject.org/

It's also included in D7.

I guess the TIdNNTP is the component i need, althought here are alot to
choose from.
Where can i find decent documentation on the Indy components? The info in
my
help file is bare or non-existant, and the Indy website doesnt seem to be
any better.





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Steve
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Newsgroups Reply with quote


Quote:
For me it helped a lot to look at :
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc977.html
for the standard commands
and
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2980.html
for the xover command (which i find very usefull)

As far as i can see, those dont relate specifically to the Delphi
Components. Is there anything that will help me to use the Indy components,
much like the help files should do?



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Ben Hochstrasser [FF]
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Newsgroups Reply with quote

Steve wrote:

Quote:
As far as i can see, those dont relate specifically to the Delphi
Components. Is there anything that will help me to use the Indy
components, much like the help files should do?

Hmmm - don't get me wrong, but I guess reading the RFCs could be very
rewarding, eg http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc977.html or
http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/RFC/977/

--
Ben

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Illya Kysil
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Newsgroups Reply with quote

Steve wrote:
Quote:
For me it helped a lot to look at :
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc977.html
for the standard commands
and
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2980.html
for the xover command (which i find very usefull)


As far as i can see, those dont relate specifically to the Delphi
Components. Is there anything that will help me to use the Indy components,
much like the help files should do?
It's highly recommended to read RFCs BEFORE you start.

This will give you general guidance on protocols itself.
No component will be able to help if you don't understand the protocol.

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Illya Kysil, software developer
Delphi/C/C++/C#/Java/Forth/Assembler
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No trees were harmed in the generation of this e-mail.
A significant number of electrons were, however, severely inconvenienced.

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TheBigBadWolf
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Newsgroups Reply with quote

Hi Steve

I posted the reader to the b.p.attachments group

Maybe some of the good programers could point
out my fatal mistakes - and maybe help me to
improve my reader.

wolf



"Steve" <darkpho66 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

For me it helped a lot to look at :
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc977.html
for the standard commands
and
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2980.html
for the xover command (which i find very usefull)

As far as i can see, those dont relate specifically to the Delphi
Components. Is there anything that will help me to use the Indy
components,
much like the help files should do?





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Claire
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: Newsgroups Reply with quote


"Steve" <darkpho66 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I'm having some problems getting these newsgroups on my computer, so i had
an idea.
Is there a component that i can set up to read newsgroups? I'd prefer
something that came with Delphi 7 rather than downloading extras.

-Steve

Hi Steve,
Going back to your original question, it may be quicker to solve this
problem rather than taking on the task of writing your own news client.
Why are you having problems?



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Steve
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: Newsgroups Reply with quote

Thanks for that.
I think i just crashed it, but i'll have a look at the code and the protocol
information, and i should be ok.


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Steve
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:42 am    Post subject: Re: Newsgroups Reply with quote


Quote:
Hi Steve,
Going back to your original question, it may be quicker to solve this
problem rather than taking on the task of writing your own news client.
Why are you having problems?

Actually, i just kinda solved them. I couldnt figuire out how to open my
newsreader in Outlook without going through a link on a website. As it just
seems to be a lost part of Outlook.
I made a shortcut on my desktop to news://newsgroups.borland.com/ and it
opens now for me. Either way, it might be a nice project.



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Claire
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: Newsgroups Reply with quote


I know exactly what you mean, which is why I wont use Outlook.
It uses outlook express for the news reader but it's not so easy to find. I
think you can create a custom button for quick access, but the newsreader
function is in there if you look hard enough.
Enjoy your project, hope you have a lot of hair ;o)


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Admiral Jake
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Newsgroups Reply with quote

"Steve" <darkpho66 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Either way, it might be a nice project.

Indeed, it can be very satisfying and intellectually stimulating to design
and write a decent newsreader. A few years ago I decided to start writing my
own multithreaded newsreader that has everything I want in a newsreader. Now
it is almost ready for Beta testing. So if there is anything you'd like to
know about such a project, just ask.

By the way, mine is based on Indy 10 and uses NexusDB for the database
backend.

(I just need to remember to send myself the latest copy here at work so I
can use at work too.)



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Steve
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Newsgroups Reply with quote

Quote:
By the way, mine is based on Indy 10 and uses NexusDB for the database
backend.

I think i have 9.something. And i got lost on their site looking for
updates, so i'll stick with it.
The real problem is, i havent done any database work yet in Delphi, so i
really have no idea what i'm doing. My teacher probaly wont do anything till
next year, so hopefully my book will get round to it.
I was was wondering myself how i was going to store everything, and keep
track of the things i've read.

I suppose i'll just leave this project for a while, at least i got my
Outlook Newsreader working :)




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