BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Now's your chance.. Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Robert Brock Guest Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:51 am    Post subject: Now's your chance.. Product Marketing Manager (Delphi) We need the guy that came up with the Energizer Bunny.. *grin* http://jobsearch.monster.com/getjob.asp?JobID=23859611&AVSDM=2004%2D08%2D29+11%3A12%3A42&Logo=1&col=dltci&cy=US&brd=1%2C1862%2C1863&lid=316&fn=6&q=Delphi Was searching for contracts and came across this.. Not trying to be flippant.. I think it's great and I hope they get somebody talented and give him the means to have our favorite tool become more successful.. Rob Back to top Dennis Landi Guest Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:12 am    Post subject: Re: Now's your chance.. Quote: Product Marketing Manager (Delphi) Great News! Now we just need to find somebody who can really do it. (*Delphi* marketing). Back to top Craig van Nieuwkerk Guest Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: Now's your chance.. Quote: Product Marketing Manager (Delphi) Great News! Now we just need to find somebody who can really do it. (*Delphi* marketing). Lot's of people in this newsgroup seem to think they know how to do it. Back to top Dennis Landi Guest Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Now's your chance.. "Rhys Sage" <abuse (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> wrote Quote: I note that the position was not posted in borland.public.delphi.jobs.... Well, its not a development position.... Back to top Dennis Landi Guest Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Now's your chance.. "Rhys Sage" <abuse (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> wrote Quote: "Dennis Landi" <nada (AT) nada (DOT) com> wrote in message news:413320e6$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... "Rhys Sage" <abuse (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> wrote in message news:41332031 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... I note that the position was not posted in borland.public.delphi.jobs.... Well, its not a development position.... And developers aren't permitted to move into marketing, having a more thorough understanding of the use of the product than some wretched clerk? Under the circumstances (Delphi's invisibility in the market) I don't think giving a marketing neophyte his big break is particularly wise... Doesn't mean that a Delphi veteran of some sort who is also a marketing veteran wouldn't be best.... That's what we need somebody who understands Delphi from the inside out *and* really understands marketing; and, more importantly, how to market *delphi* as a unique toolset. -d Back to top Will DeWitt Jr. Guest Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Now's your chance.. Craig van Nieuwkerk wrote: Quote: Lot's of people in this newsgroup seem to think they know how to do it. "Local applicants only, please." Will -- Want a 64-bit Delphi compiler for AMD64 / IA-32e? Vote here-- http://qc.borland.com/wc/wc.exe/details?reportid=7324 Back to top Dan Barclay Guest Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Now's your chance.. Add "and understands VB developers" to the list. I continue to believe that's a huge opportunity laying around ready to be tapped. MS has been spectacularly unsucessful at it with VB.Net, dispite their marketeers' hype. Picking up even a small amount of that market could make somebody's day. Dan "Dennis Landi" <nada (AT) nada (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "Rhys Sage" <abuse (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> wrote in message news:41333e67 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... "Dennis Landi" <nada (AT) nada (DOT) com> wrote in message news:413320e6$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... "Rhys Sage" <abuse (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> wrote in message news:41332031 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... I note that the position was not posted in borland.public.delphi.jobs.... Well, its not a development position.... And developers aren't permitted to move into marketing, having a more thorough understanding of the use of the product than some wretched clerk? Under the circumstances (Delphi's invisibility in the market) I don't think giving a marketing neophyte his big break is particularly wise... Doesn't mean that a Delphi veteran of some sort who is also a marketing veteran wouldn't be best.... That's what we need somebody who understands Delphi from the inside out *and* really understands marketing; and, more importantly, how to market *delphi* as a unique toolset. -d Back to top Dan Barclay Guest Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Now's your chance.. Ahem... It occured to me that I should be more explicit (though you'd think that wasn't necessary). When I say "understands VB" I mean VB (and Classic VB developers), not VFred. They aren't the same. Dan "Dan Barclay" <Dan (AT) MVPs (DOT) org> wrote Quote: Add "and understands VB developers" to the list. I continue to believe that's a huge opportunity laying around ready to be tapped. MS has been spectacularly unsucessful at it with VB.Net, dispite their marketeers' hype. Picking up even a small amount of that market could make somebody's day. Dan "Dennis Landi" <nada (AT) nada (DOT) com> wrote in message news:41334e57 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... "Rhys Sage" <abuse (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> wrote in message news:41333e67 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... "Dennis Landi" <nada (AT) nada (DOT) com> wrote in message news:413320e6$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... "Rhys Sage" <abuse (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> wrote in message news:41332031 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... I note that the position was not posted in borland.public.delphi.jobs.... Well, its not a development position.... And developers aren't permitted to move into marketing, having a more thorough understanding of the use of the product than some wretched clerk? Under the circumstances (Delphi's invisibility in the market) I don't think giving a marketing neophyte his big break is particularly wise... Doesn't mean that a Delphi veteran of some sort who is also a marketing veteran wouldn't be best.... That's what we need somebody who understands Delphi from the inside out *and* really understands marketing; and, more importantly, how to market *delphi* as a unique toolset. -d Back to top Kirk Halgren Guest Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Now's your chance.. "Dennis Landi" <nada (AT) nada (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "Rhys Sage" <abuse (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> wrote in message news:41333e67 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... "Dennis Landi" <nada (AT) nada (DOT) com> wrote in message news:413320e6$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... "Rhys Sage" <abuse (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> wrote in message news:41332031 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... I note that the position was not posted in borland.public.delphi.jobs.... Well, its not a development position.... And developers aren't permitted to move into marketing, having a more thorough understanding of the use of the product than some wretched clerk? Under the circumstances (Delphi's invisibility in the market) I don't think giving a marketing neophyte his big break is particularly wise... Doesn't mean that a Delphi veteran of some sort who is also a marketing veteran wouldn't be best.... That's what we need somebody who understands Delphi from the inside out *and* really understands marketing; and, more importantly, how to market *delphi* as a unique toolset. The best way to demonstrate marketing ability would be to market oneself into the interview. Kirk Halgren "Never mistake motion for action." -- Ernest Hemingway (1899-1961) Back to top Dennis Landi Guest Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Now's your chance.. "Kirk Halgren" <khalgren (AT) sti (DOT) nasa.gov> wrote Quote: Doesn't mean that a Delphi veteran of some sort who is also a marketing veteran wouldn't be best.... That's what we need somebody who understands Delphi from the inside out *and* really understands marketing; and, more importantly, how to market *delphi* as a unique toolset. The best way to demonstrate marketing ability would be to market oneself into the interview. I gotta disagree on this one. We need a marketing pro. Delphi really needs it. Bad. The Delphi Understanding is key, too; but the market position of Delphi is to precarious to leave to a passionate amateur. A market pro with no feel for Delphi won't work either, I feel. -d Back to top Kirk Halgren Guest Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Now's your chance.. "Dennis Landi" <nada (AT) nada (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "Kirk Halgren" <khalgren (AT) sti (DOT) nasa.gov> wrote in message news:4133a92d$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Doesn't mean that a Delphi veteran of some sort who is also a marketing veteran wouldn't be best.... That's what we need somebody who understands Delphi from the inside out *and* really understands marketing; and, more importantly, how to market *delphi* as a unique toolset. The best way to demonstrate marketing ability would be to market oneself into the interview. I gotta disagree on this one. We need a marketing pro. Delphi really needs it. Bad. The Delphi Understanding is key, too; but the market position of Delphi is to precarious to leave to a passionate amateur. A market pro with no feel for Delphi won't work either, I feel. Hi, Dennis, I agree. I was just pointing out that if there is a good marketer who follows this forum, he could make his case by demonstrating his (or her) talents directly. Arm waving will not be helpful. IIRC, Borland used to be better at it. Remember back in the pre-Windows days? If you bought C++ you got a discount on Turbo Pascal, etc. They usually offered cross product line discounts. The other details have faded but I remember reaching that conclusion. Are you going to the users' group meeting this week? Kirk Back to top Dennis Landi Guest Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Now's your chance.. "Kirk Halgren" <khalgren (AT) sti (DOT) nasa.gov> wrote Quote: Are you going to the users' group meeting this week? Rats. No, I'm leaving Wednesday morning for Texas for a week. We'll have to hook up soon. -d Back to top Dennis Landi Guest Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Now's your chance.. "Kirk Halgren" <khalgren (AT) sti (DOT) nasa.gov> wrote Quote: IIRC, Borland used to be better at it. Remember back in the pre-Windows days? If you bought C++ you got a discount on Turbo Pascal, etc. They usually offered cross product line discounts. The other details have faded but I remember reaching that conclusion. Well, they had the whole Borland Connections program which is how I got a pre-release copy of Delphi delivered right to my door sometime around November, 1994. Now, that's when dropping a tDatasource, tDataset and tDbGrid on a form was cool.... -d Back to top Thomas Miller Guest Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:59 am    Post subject: Re: Now's your chance.. Well Dennis is already busy on the 1st so we are going to move it back to 8th. I like this because everyone should be back from vacation. I still haven't heard back from John K about coming in October to do a full demo of ECO. Hope he sees this and checks his travel schedule. We could stand with another visit in February to see D9 (HINT, HINT ). Dennis Landi wrote: Quote: "Kirk Halgren" <khalgren (AT) sti (DOT) nasa.gov> wrote Are you going to the users' group meeting this week? Rats. No, I'm leaving Wednesday morning for Texas for a week. We'll have to hook up soon. -d -- Thomas Miller Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork http://www.bss-software.com http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus Back to top Kirk Halgren Guest Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: Now's your chance.. Jeez, Tom, the website still says the meeting is tomorrow night. I'm glad I wasn't planning to attend. This might have been the second time I came to a non-meeting based on the webpage. Kirk Halgren "Washington is a city of southern efficiency and northern charm." - John F. Kennedy "Thomas Miller" <tmiller (AT) bss-software (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Well Dennis is already busy on the 1st so we are going to move it back to 8th. I like this because everyone should be back from vacation. I still haven't heard back from John K about coming in October to do a full demo of ECO. Hope he sees this and checks his travel schedule. We could stand with another visit in February to see D9 (HINT, HINT ). Dennis Landi wrote: "Kirk Halgren" <khalgren (AT) sti (DOT) nasa.gov> wrote Are you going to the users' group meeting this week? Rats. No, I'm leaving Wednesday morning for Texas for a week. 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