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nTier Q. - how to move to nTier projects in Delphi 8 ?

 
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Bishoy Ghaly
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:10 pm    Post subject: nTier Q. - how to move to nTier projects in Delphi 8 ? Reply with quote



Hi there,
I would like to know if it is possible to build an nTier Model
application in Delphi 8 all in hand coded and how to start this as I'm
really new to nTier model I always used the Single tier and Data Binding for
my apps, and now my team wants to move to a higher level so we can support
larger applications without a hassle of low level dirty coding or debugging
or reinventing the wheel every time we build a new package, also we are
interested in building some packages for Data access and business logic and
communications and binding them to one large package to be used in both
Windows Forms Apps and Web Forms Apps.

Any Suggestions, Directions, Examples, Links are welcome

Thanks in advance.

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Bishoy Ghaly
Software Developer
http://www.dev2dev.org
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Craig van Nieuwkerk
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: nTier Q. - how to move to nTier projects in Delphi 8 ? Reply with quote



Quote:
I would like to know if it is possible to build an nTier Model
application in Delphi 8 all in hand coded and how to start this as I'm
really new to nTier model I always used the Single tier and Data Binding
for
my apps, and now my team wants to move to a higher level so we can support
larger applications without a hassle of low level dirty coding or
debugging
or reinventing the wheel every time we build a new package, also we are
interested in building some packages for Data access and business logic
and
communications and binding them to one large package to be used in both
Windows Forms Apps and Web Forms Apps.

Any Suggestions, Directions, Examples, Links are welcome


Have a look for information on ".NET Remoting". www.remobjects.com also have
some stuff that might be interesting.



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Bishoy Ghaly
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: nTier Q. - how to move to nTier projects in Delphi 8 ? Reply with quote



Thanks Craig, but what if I don't want to use any third party tools ?
also if there is any small n-tier example even in one table I would
appreciate it, I just need to clear things out and start hitting the IDE :)

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Bishoy Ghaly
Senior Software Developer
http://www.dev2dev.org
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"Craig van Nieuwkerk" <craigvn (AT) dart (DOT) net.au> wrote

Quote:

I would like to know if it is possible to build an nTier Model
application in Delphi 8 all in hand coded and how to start this as I'm
really new to nTier model I always used the Single tier and Data Binding
for
my apps, and now my team wants to move to a higher level so we can
support
larger applications without a hassle of low level dirty coding or
debugging
or reinventing the wheel every time we build a new package, also we are
interested in building some packages for Data access and business logic
and
communications and binding them to one large package to be used in both
Windows Forms Apps and Web Forms Apps.

Any Suggestions, Directions, Examples, Links are welcome


Have a look for information on ".NET Remoting". www.remobjects.com also
have
some stuff that might be interesting.





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Bill Todd
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: nTier Q. - how to move to nTier projects in Delphi 8 ? Reply with quote

As Craig said, the .NET way to build multi-tier apps is remoting. You
might get better answers in the ado.net newsgroup.

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Bishoy Ghaly wrote:

Quote:
Thanks Craig, but what if I don't want to use any third party tools ?

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Dan Palley
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: nTier Q. - how to move to nTier projects in Delphi 8 ? Reply with quote

Delphi 2005 has support for creating Datasnap servers in .NET. This wasn't
an option in D8.

Dan

"Bishoy Ghaly" <bishoy (AT) dev2dev (DOT) org> wrote

Quote:
Thanks Craig, but what if I don't want to use any third party tools ?
also if there is any small n-tier example even in one table I would
appreciate it, I just need to clear things out and start hitting the IDE
:)

--
Bishoy Ghaly
Senior Software Developer
http://www.dev2dev.org
-----------------------------------------------
"Craig van Nieuwkerk" <craigvn (AT) dart (DOT) net.au> wrote in message
news:418adbd9$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...

I would like to know if it is possible to build an nTier Model
application in Delphi 8 all in hand coded and how to start this as I'm
really new to nTier model I always used the Single tier and Data
Binding
for
my apps, and now my team wants to move to a higher level so we can
support
larger applications without a hassle of low level dirty coding or
debugging
or reinventing the wheel every time we build a new package, also we are
interested in building some packages for Data access and business logic
and
communications and binding them to one large package to be used in both
Windows Forms Apps and Web Forms Apps.

Any Suggestions, Directions, Examples, Links are welcome


Have a look for information on ".NET Remoting". www.remobjects.com also
have
some stuff that might be interesting.







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Bishoy Ghaly
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:11 am    Post subject: Re: nTier Q. - how to move to nTier projects in Delphi 8 ? Reply with quote

Thanks to all of you guys, now I'm collecting info and tutorials about
Remoting and hope to be working soon :)

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Bishoy Ghaly
Senior Software Developer
http://www.dev2dev.org
-----------------------------------------------

"Bishoy Ghaly" <bishoy (AT) dev2dev (DOT) org> wrote

Quote:
Hi there,
I would like to know if it is possible to build an nTier Model
application in Delphi 8 all in hand coded and how to start this as I'm
really new to nTier model I always used the Single tier and Data Binding
for my apps, and now my team wants to move to a higher level so we can
support larger applications without a hassle of low level dirty coding or
debugging or reinventing the wheel every time we build a new package, also
we are interested in building some packages for Data access and business
logic and communications and binding them to one large package to be used
in both Windows Forms Apps and Web Forms Apps.

Any Suggestions, Directions, Examples, Links are welcome

Thanks in advance.

--
Bishoy Ghaly
Software Developer
http://www.dev2dev.org
-----------------------------------------------





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Bob Swart
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 8:49 am    Post subject: Re: nTier Q. - how to move to nTier projects in Delphi 8 ? Reply with quote

Hi Bishoy,

Quote:
I would like to know if it is possible to build an nTier Model
application in Delphi 8 all in hand coded

Yes this is possible using ASP.NET Web Services (passing DataSets and
DiffGrams) or .NET Remoting. Or third-party solution like RemObjects
SDK.
In all cases, the client can be a normal WinForms app.

Quote:
Any Suggestions, Directions, Examples, Links are welcome

I have written some articles about this.

Delphi 8 for .NET and .NET Remoting
http://www.drbob42.com/examines/examin53.htm

..NET Remoting and DataSets
http://www.drbob42.com/examines/examin54.htm

Accessing DB2 Universal Database tables using ASP.NET Web Services
written in Delphi 8 for .NET
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/db2/library/techarticle/dm-0402swart2/

Working with DB2 Universal Database tables using ASP.NET Web Services
written in Delphi 8 for .NET
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/db2/library/techarticle/dm-0403swart/

RemObjects SDK (review of version 1)
http://www.drbob42.com/review/index_ro.htm

http://www.drbob42.com/examines
http://www.drbob42.com/ibm/

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Bishoy Ghaly

Groetjes,
Bob Swart (aka Dr.Bob - www.DrBob42.com)

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Delphi Win32 & .NET training and support - IntraWeb Authorized Trainer

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Bob Swart
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: nTier Q. - how to move to nTier projects in Delphi 8 ? Reply with quote

Hi Dan,

Quote:
Delphi 2005 has support for creating Datasnap servers in .NET.

Not as far as I know. You can build DataSnap servers with Delphi 2005,
but only for Win32. In .NET, you only have DataSnap clients. There is no
remote data module in VCL for .NET...

Quote:
Dan

Groetjes,
Bob Swart (aka Dr.Bob - www.DrBob42.com)

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Bob Swart Training & Consultancy (eBob42) - Borland Technology Partner
Delphi Win32 & .NET training and support - IntraWeb Authorized Trainer

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