BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Offended by Borland Goto page 1, 2  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message David Wilcockson Guest Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:08 pm    Post subject: Offended by Borland Actually more astonished than offended. I logged a QC report (#8506) on 26 June. Today I noticed it was open and went to see if there were any comments. My previous bug report was fixed and directly mentioned in the Delphi 8 service pack, so I felt very well disposed towards the Borland QC process! When filling in the Workaround box I wrote 'None found' - no big deal, I just didn't know of a workaround and so wrote 'None found'! The Borland response: 1) 'Anyway, your sample code doesn't compile (no Rect() anymore)'. I've just typed it out in Delphi 8 and it certainly does compile, and Rect() is supported if you added Borland.Vcl.Types as I mentioned in the report. Surely Borland should know their own product, and certainly not criticise customers who are trying to help without getting their facts straight (especially as he obviously didn't actually try the code)! 2) 'And please don't enter silly things for Workaround if you don't have one'. Maybe I shouldn't have put 'None found' - but do I really need be told that I am putting 'silly things'? 3) 'But I can't dig deeper right now'. After accusing a customer of doing silly things, and supplying faulty code, I'm probably quite relieved... David Back to top John Herbster Guest Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Offended by Borland "David Wilcockson" <dnwatlibriosdotcom> wrote Quote: I logged a QC report (#8506) on 26 June. Today I noticed it was open and went to see if there were any comments. The Borland response: 1) 'Anyway, your sample code doesn't compile ... David, What leads you to conclude that that comment is a Borland response? Anyone can post a comment. I would be happy if my QC reports were opened so fast. Regards, JohnH Back to top David Wilcockson Guest Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Offended by Borland I didn't know that anyone could comment - I apologise if this was not a Borland response. Does Mr Sebastian Modersohn work for Borland? Could someone from Borland confirm that this was not an official response so that I can calm down? :-) David Quote: David, What leads you to conclude that that comment is a Borland response? Anyone can post a comment. I would be happy if my QC reports were opened so fast. Regards, JohnH Back to top JoeH Guest Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Offended by Borland On Google groups search by author, Sebastion seems to work for: "ChoosePill components" based on his public sig... So yes, calm down, have a beer, and have a great weekend ! JoeH Back to top Craig Stuntz [TeamB] Guest Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Offended by Borland David Wilcockson wrote: Quote: I logged a QC report (#8506) on 26 June. Thank you! Quote: The Borland response: That was not a "Borland response!" That was a comment from another QC user, who does not work for Borland. People do sometimes say impolite things, I agree. It would certainly be out of line for a Borlander to use such language. But they didn't. -Craig -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] . Vertex Systems Corp. . Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz IB 6 versions prior to 6.0.1.6 are pre-release and may corrupt your DBs! Open Edition users, get 6.0.1.6 from http://mers.com Back to top Craig Stuntz [TeamB] Guest Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Offended by Borland TObject wrote: Quote: Speaking about workarounds. Is there any way to see unprocessed workarounds? No. I wish there were, but there isn't. Quote: How can I see that workaround? Bug a sysop to make it visible. What is the number? -Craig -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] · Vertex Systems Corp. · Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz IB 6 versions prior to 6.0.1.6 are pre-release and may corrupt your DBs! Open Edition users, get 6.0.1.6 from http://mers.com Back to top Craig Stuntz [TeamB] Guest Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Offended by Borland David Wilcockson wrote: Quote: The Borland response: Incidentally, there *was* a Borland response, although it wasn't the comment you were referring to. The Borland response was a R & D team member opening the report and moving it into the official internal database so that the defect you reported would be visible to the rest of the Delphi team. -Craig -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] . Vertex Systems Corp. . Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz Please read and follow Borland's rules for the user of their news server: http://info.borland.com/newsgroups/guide.html Back to top Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] Guest Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Offended by Borland At 21:08:55, 10.07.2004, David Wilcockson wrote: Quote: When filling in the Workaround box I wrote 'None found' - no big deal, I just didn't know of a workaround and so wrote 'None found'! The Borland response: The response is by Sebastian Modersohn, and he is not from Borland. He is just a user of QC like you and me, who posted a comment of his own. Everyone can post comments. If you disagree with his comment, then post your own as reply to his, and tell him. <g> -- Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] "If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) Back to top Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] Guest Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Offended by Borland At 21:48:47, 10.07.2004, David Wilcockson wrote: Quote: I didn't know that anyone could comment - I apologise if this was not a Borland response. Does Mr Sebastian Modersohn work for Borland? Could someone from Borland confirm that this was not an official response so that I can calm down? You can calm down. He doesn't work for Borland, AFAIK. -- Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] "I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury." -- Groucho Marx Back to top David Wilcockson Guest Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:03 pm    Post subject: Not offended by Borland So I shall now go and have the suggested beer, with the relief that is nothing to do with Borland. Thank you to everyone who helped me calm down -:) David Back to top Xavier Pacheco Guest Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Not offended by Borland David Wilcockson wrote: Quote: So I shall now go and have the suggested beer I think we all shall have a beer this very moment. - x -- Xavier Pacheco President, Consultant Xapware Technologies Inc www.xapware.com --- Author - Delphi for .NET Developer's Guide http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672324431/ Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Offended by Borland TObject wrote: Quote: Speaking about workarounds. Is there any way to see unprocessed workarounds? Some time in March I created a report. Somebody else submitted a workaround. The status line in the report says, "1 unprocessed workarounds". This message does not mean it is not visible. Sometimes it does, but in most cases it does not. Quote: How can I see that workaround? -- Jeff Overcash (TeamB) (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. (RAH) Back to top David Clegg Guest Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Not offended by Borland Xavier Pacheco wrote: Quote: I think we all shall have a beer this very moment. I'll buy the first round. http://www.virtualbeer.com/vb/send/index.shtml -- Cheers, David Clegg dclegg_at_ebetonline_dot_com Vote 1 http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=21489 Now supports Google Groups searching with Dyna-extend(tm) technology! Quality Central. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. http://qc.borland.com "Well, crying isn't gonna bring him back ... unless your tears smell like dog food. So you can either sit there crying and eating can after can of dog food until your tears smell enough like dog food to make your dog come back or you can go out there and find your dog." - Homer Simpson Back to top Captain Jake Guest Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:03 am    Post subject: Re: Not offended by Borland "Xavier Pacheco" <xavier (AT) _nospam_xapware (DOT) com> wrote Quote: David Wilcockson wrote: So I shall now go and have the suggested beer I think we all shall have a beer this very moment. Can't. The Heineken's were sitting outside the fridge and so are not cold. That twelve pack has lasted two or three weeks so far. I guess my wife and I are not exactly big drinkers. Delphi is my buzz. -- Read Jake's Blog! http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/Rss.aspx Back to top Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] Guest Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Not offended by Borland At 04:03:30, 11.07.2004, Captain Jake wrote: Quote: "Xavier Pacheco" <xavier (AT) _nospam_xapware (DOT) com> wrote in message news:40f04e09$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... David Wilcockson wrote: So I shall now go and have the suggested beer I think we all shall have a beer this very moment. Can't. The Heineken's were sitting outside the fridge You call that beer? 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