BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  OK, now I'm mad Goto page 1, 2  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Luis Cobian Guest Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: OK, now I'm mad I'm working on D2006 in a medium sized project. The same project in D7 compiles and run like butter. In D2007 things are S..L...O...W. Adding buttons to the toolbar takes 30 seconds each.. and adding some images to a image list (not many,32 images 16x16 and 12 48x48) produces this http://sherwood.lh.umu.se/images/out2.jpg Out of systems resources? Judging by the error, it seems that GDI resources are low, but I'M RUNNING ON XP FOR CRYING OUT LOUD not on 9x!!!! And I'm not using 1000 images either only a few small ones. The same project in D7 reacted instantly to any click. Here every click takes ages. I though Toguether was to blame because whe it was activated it things looked like this: http://sherwood.lh.umu.se/images/out.jpg (900 000 kB)!!! But now that disgrace of a tool is inactive so Delphi takes "only" 200 000 kb memory. What is going on here? Back to top Liz Guest Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OK, now I'm mad Luis Cobian wrote: Quote: Yes, but it's not memory compsuption what is worrying me this time. It seems like if you open , manipulate and replace images in a image list D2006 does NOT free GDI resources. I suspect this because, if I restart the system and open my project and then add images, it kind of works fast, but the more I open a image list and change image indexes or replace images, the slower Delphi becomes. And then... the out of resources dialog. have you tried disabling together? and error insight? -- Liz the Brit Delphi things I have released: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk/DelphiThings Back to top Luis Cobian Guest Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OK, now I'm mad "Oliver Townshend" <oliveratzipdotcomdotau> wrote in message news:4462599f$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Have you applied update 2? Yes, but it's not memory compsuption what is worrying me this time. It seems like if you open , manipulate and replace images in a image list D2006 does NOT free GDI resources. I suspect this because, if I restart the system and open my project and then add images, it kind of works fast, but the more I open a image list and change image indexes or replace images, the slower Delphi becomes. And then... the out of resources dialog. Back to top Oliver Townshend Guest Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OK, now I'm mad Quote: But now that disgrace of a tool is inactive so Delphi takes "only" 200 000 kb memory. What is going on here? Have you applied update 2? Oliver Townshend Back to top Dave Nottage [TeamB] Guest Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OK, now I'm mad Nathaniel L. Walker wrote: Quote: It's in QC alreath and we are awaiting the issue to be addressed What's the QC number? -- Dave Nottage [TeamB] Have questions?: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Want answers?: http://support.borland.com Back to top Luis Cobian Guest Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OK, now I'm mad "Ramona van Riet" <RamonaVanRiet (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:xn0em3477bn6wnr02f (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Om 23:19:45 uur, 10.05.2006, schreef Luis Cobian: http://www.cryer.co.uk/newsgroups/bp_delphi_rtl_win32/200503/050312148.htm -- Well, I undesrtand that, but my program is not running. Is D2006 who is throwing the Out of resources dialog when I'm designing. Back to top Nathaniel L. Walker Guest Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OK, now I'm mad It's a memory leak. It's in QC alreath and we are awaiting the issue to be addressed. Out of system resources = you have no RAM left, and your paging file (swap space) was full. Nate. "Luis Cobian" <cobian (AT) nospam (DOT) educ.umu.se> wrote in message news:446261a6 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: "Oliver Townshend" <oliveratzipdotcomdotau> wrote in message news:4462599f$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Have you applied update 2? Yes, but it's not memory compsuption what is worrying me this time. It seems like if you open , manipulate and replace images in a image list D2006 does NOT free GDI resources. I suspect this because, if I restart the system and open my project and then add images, it kind of works fast, but the more I open a image list and change image indexes or replace images, the slower Delphi becomes. And then... the out of resources dialog. Back to top Ramona van Riet Guest Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OK, now I'm mad Om 23:19:45 uur, 10.05.2006, schreef Luis Cobian: Quote: I'm working on D2006 in a medium sized project. The same project in D7 compiles and run like butter. In D2007 things are S..L...O...W. Adding buttons to the toolbar takes 30 seconds each.. and adding some images to a image list (not many,32 images 16x16 and 12 48x48) produces this http://sherwood.lh.umu.se/images/out2.jpg Out of systems resources? http://www.cryer.co.uk/newsgroups/bp_delphi_rtl_win32/200503/050312148.htm -- Ramona Back to top Luis Cobian Guest Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject: Re: OK, now I'm mad "Nathaniel L. Walker" <NathanielWalker (AT) DontThinkAboutIt (DOT) net> wrote in message news:4462753c (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Delphi shouldn't take that much RAM up when inactive (just started up without doing anything to trigger the issues). Usually it sits at about 14-15MB RAM used on my system. Then again, it shouldn't take up ~a gig either. You are correct. When it starts it sits at 20 Mb, but after some hours of use it oes up to 200 Mb. That was what I meant. Well, it's not that bad: when I had together enabled it was 1 Gb instead, so believe me, I'm very happy now <g> Back to top Nathaniel L. Walker Guest Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject: Re: OK, now I'm mad I'm glad you were able to disable Together and resolve the issue. Unfortunately, my project needs together support so... *waits [somewhat] patiently* Nate. "Luis Cobian" <cobian (AT) nospam (DOT) educ.umu.se> wrote in message news:446276c0$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: "Nathaniel L. Walker" <NathanielWalker (AT) DontThinkAboutIt (DOT) net> wrote in message news:4462753c (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Delphi shouldn't take that much RAM up when inactive (just started up without doing anything to trigger the issues). Usually it sits at about 14-15MB RAM used on my system. Then again, it shouldn't take up ~a gig either. You are correct. When it starts it sits at 20 Mb, but after some hours of use it oes up to 200 Mb. That was what I meant. Well, it's not that bad: when I had together enabled it was 1 Gb instead, so believe me, I'm very happy now <g Back to top Nathaniel L. Walker Guest Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject: Re: OK, now I'm mad The first issue I have no clue about, but it's a hypothesis, OP can test and see (task manager can be set to Always on Top, which makes it easier). Second issue has been reported, (I've experienced this "issue" no steps as of yet. OP, feel free to open another QC report if the steps you go about causing these problems are different I don't feel like crashing my computer over and over and over (Usually have to pull the plug to get it to reset, button doesn't work and it gets totall locked up). There are a few issues with Together integration that I'm anxiously awaiting to be addressed. http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?d=23053 http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?d=27297 Nate. "Luis Cobian" <cobian (AT) nospam (DOT) educ.umu.se> wrote in message news:446270d0$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: "Ramona van Riet" <RamonaVanRiet (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:xn0em3477bn6wnr02f (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Om 23:19:45 uur, 10.05.2006, schreef Luis Cobian: http://www.cryer.co.uk/newsgroups/bp_delphi_rtl_win32/200503/050312148.htm -- Well, I undesrtand that, but my program is not running. Is D2006 who is throwing the Out of resources dialog when I'm designing. Back to top Nathaniel L. Walker Guest Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject: Re: OK, now I'm mad "Luis Cobian" <cobian (AT) nospam (DOT) educ.umu.se> wrote in message news:446258de (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: But now that disgrace of a tool is inactive so Delphi takes "only" 200 000 kb memory. What is going on here? Delphi shouldn't take that much RAM up when inactive (just started up without doing anything to trigger the issues). Usually it sits at about 14-15MB RAM used on my system. Then again, it shouldn't take up ~a gig either. Nate. Back to top Donald Shimoda Guest Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:14 am    Post subject: Re: OK, now I'm mad Luis Cobian wrote: Quote: I'm working on D2006 in a medium sized project. The same project in D7 compiles and run like butter. In D2007 things are S..L...O...W. <bad joke> Maybe because D2007 is an early Alpha version. <bad joke> -- Donald Back to top Nathaniel L. Walker Guest Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 2:14 am    Post subject: Re: OK, now I'm mad LOL Nate. "Donald Shimoda" <shimodadonald (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:44628b31 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Luis Cobian wrote: I'm working on D2006 in a medium sized project. The same project in D7 compiles and run like butter. In D2007 things are S..L...O...W. bad joke Maybe because D2007 is an early Alpha version. bad joke -- Donald Back to top John E. Wilfong Guest Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: OK, now I'm mad Luis Cobian wrote: Quote: I'm working on D2006 in a medium sized project. The same project in D7 compiles and run like butter. In D2007 things are S..L...O...W. The problems you are having is a result of mixing all that running butter within a timewarp to a currently unreleased and unsupported version. I recommend sticking (may not be possible with all that butter) with D7 till time catches up. <g> -- John Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2   Jump to: Select a forum C++ Builder Newsgroups----------------C++ BuilderC++ Builder (ActiveX)C++ Builder (Announcements)C++ Builder (Command Line Tools)C++ Builder DatabasesC++ Builder Databases (ADO)C++ Builder Databases (Desktop)C++ Builder Databases (InterBase Express)C++ Builder Databases (Multi-Tier)C++ Builder Databases (SQL Servers)C++ Builder (Graphics)C++ Builder (IDE)C++ Builder (Internet)C++ Builder (Internet Socket)C++ Builder (Internet Web)C++ Builder (Jobs)C++ Builder (Language)C++ Builder (Language C++)C++ Builder (Compatibility with MFC)C++ Builder (Native API)C++ Builder (Non-Technical)C++ Builder (Students)C++ Builder (Third Party Tools)C++ Builder (Upgrade)C++ Builder (VCL)C++ Builder (VCL Components Usage)C++ Builder (VCL Components Development)C++ Builder (VCL Usage)C++ Builder (WinAPI)C++ Builder Installation Delphi Newsgroups----------------Delphi (General)Delphi ActiveX Controls UsageDelphi ActiveX Controls DevelopmentDelphi As400Delphi DatabasesDelphi Databases (ADO)Delphi Databases (dbExpress)Delphi Databases (Desktop)Delphi Databases (InterBase Express)Delphi Databases (Multi-Tier)Delphi Databases (SQL Servers)Delphi DeploymentDelphi GraphicsDelphi IDEDelphi InternationalizationDelphi InternetDelphi Internet Isapi-WebBrokerDelphi Internet WebSnapDelphi Internet WinsockDelphi JobsDelphi Language BASMDelphi Language ObjectPascalDelphi Model Driven Architecture (General)Delphi Model Driven Architecture (Third Party)Delphi MultimediaDelphi Native APIDelphi Non-TechnicalDelphi ObjectPascalDelphi OLE AutomationDelphi OO designDelphi OpenToolsAPIDelphi Reporting-ChartingDelphi RTLDelphi StudentsDelphi TeamSourceDelphi Thirdparty ToolsDelphi Thirdparty Tools (General)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (RaveReports)Delphi UpgradeDelphi VCLDelphi VCL ComponentsDelphi VCL Components UsingDelphi VCL Components WritingDelphi WebServices SOAPDelphi WinAPIDelphi XMLDelphi Installationcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.misccomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usagecomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.writingcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.databasescomp.lang.pascal.delphi.misccomp.sources.delphi JBuilder Newsgroups----------------JBuilderJBuilder AnnouncementsJBuilder Applet IssuesJBuilder As400JBuilder CompilerJBuilder CORBA/RMIJBuilder DatabasesJBuilder DB SwingJBuilder DebuggerJBuilder DeploymentJBuilder DocumentationJBuilder EnterpriseJBuilder HandheldJBuilder IDEJBuilder JavaJBuilder JavaAPIJBuilder Java LanguageJBuilder Java SwingJBuilder Java BeansJBuilder Java Beans UsageJBuilder Java Beans DevelopmentJBuilder JBCLJBuilder JDataStoreJBuilder JobsJBuilder LinuxJBuilder MacintoshJBuilder & MobileSetJBuilder MultiLingual AppsJBuilder Non-TechnicalJBuilder OpenToolsJBuilder Servlets (JSP)JBuilder StudentsJBuilder Team DevelopmentJBuilder Thirdparty ToolsJBuilder UpgradeJBuilder Installation InterBase Newsgroups----------------InterBaseInterBase Bug DiscussionInterBase GeneralInterBase IBConsoleInterBase OpenSourceInterBase ReplicationInterBase SQLInterBase ThirdpartyInterBase Installation Miscellaneous Borland Newsgroups----------------AppCenterAppServerEnteraVisiBroker  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.