BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  OneCare and IDE          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message MikeR Guest Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject: OneCare and IDE I'm using the new (still Beta) MS WindowsOneCare AV and firewall program. I have an app that accesses the internet to upload and download stuff. When I run the program in the IDE, OneCare pops a dialog asking if I want to allow it access to the net. I click Allow, and it acts correctly, and does so for as long as I don't stop and restart my app. Then is prompts me again. Each time I click Allow, it adds an instance of my app to OneCare's Allow list, and won't let me delete them. The app run outside the IDE doesn't trip OneCare. MS response was to turn off the firewall when running the app in the IDE. The issue is supposed to go to the developers, but with retail release about a month away, I doubt if it's gonna get addressed by then. Just a heads up...... Mike Back to top Robert Wachtel Guest Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OneCare and IDE For me it sounds that it works as expected. Each and every time you build/compile/start your application in the IDE it differs from the other builds (at least the file date/time). Robert "MikeR" <nf4lNoSpam (AT) pobox (DOT) com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:446c8169 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: I'm using the new (still Beta) MS WindowsOneCare AV and firewall program. I have an app that accesses the internet to upload and download stuff. When I run the program in the IDE, OneCare pops a dialog asking if I want to allow it access to the net. I click Allow, and it acts correctly, and does so for as long as I don't stop and restart my app. Then is prompts me again. Each time I click Allow, it adds an instance of my app to OneCare's Allow list, and won't let me delete them. The app run outside the IDE doesn't trip OneCare. MS response was to turn off the firewall when running the app in the IDE. The issue is supposed to go to the developers, but with retail release about a month away, I doubt if it's gonna get addressed by then. Just a heads up...... Mike Back to top Steve Zimmelman Guest Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OneCare and IDE Zone Alarm does the same thing, but it has a "Changes Frequently" flag you can set for the exe so it stops asking. -Steve- "MikeR" <nf4lNoSpam (AT) pobox (DOT) com> wrote in message news:446c8169 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: I'm using the new (still Beta) MS WindowsOneCare AV and firewall program. I have an app that accesses the internet to upload and download stuff. When I run the program in the IDE, OneCare pops a dialog asking if I want to allow it access to the net. I click Allow, and it acts correctly, and does so for as long as I don't stop and restart my app. Then is prompts me again. Each time I click Allow, it adds an instance of my app to OneCare's Allow list, and won't let me delete them. The app run outside the IDE doesn't trip OneCare. MS response was to turn off the firewall when running the app in the IDE. The issue is supposed to go to the developers, but with retail release about a month away, I doubt if it's gonna get addressed by then. Just a heads up...... Mike Back to top MikeR Guest Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:14 am    Post subject: Re: OneCare and IDE Robert Wachtel wrote: Quote: For me it sounds that it works as expected. Each and every time you build/compile/start your application in the IDE it differs from the other builds (at least the file date/time). Robert Good point if that's what triggers it. Sure is annoying, tho. Back to top MikeR Guest Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:14 am    Post subject: Re: OneCare and IDE Steve Zimmelman wrote: Quote: Zone Alarm does the same thing, but it has a "Changes Frequently" flag you can set for the exe so it stops asking. -Steve- That would be a nice feature to have! Back to top Ian Stuart Guest Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: OneCare and IDE "MikeR" <nf4lNoSpam (AT) pobox (DOT) com> wrote in message news:446c8169 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: I'm using the new (still Beta) MS WindowsOneCare AV and firewall program. Each time I click Allow, it adds an instance of my app to OneCare's Allow list, and won't let me delete them. OneCare: Select 'View or change settings' and then select the Firewall tab in the popup dialog. This page has the obligatory 'Advanced settings...' button and here you can see an M$ style (keyhole) list containing a few hundred instances of your application. Select them one-by-one and click remove :-( Regards Ian Back to top Uffe Kousgaard Guest Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: OneCare and IDE "Steve Zimmelman" <skz (AT) charter (DOT) nospam.net> wrote in message news:446c9f99$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Zone Alarm does the same thing, but it has a "Changes Frequently" flag you can set for the exe so it stops asking. A very usefull function indeed Back to top MikeR Guest Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OneCare and IDE Ian Stuart wrote: Quote: Select 'View or change settings' and then select the Firewall tab in the popup dialog. This page has the obligatory 'Advanced settings...' button and here you can see an M$ style (keyhole) list containing a few hundred instances of your application. Select them one-by-one and click remove :-( Regards Ian Unfortunately, mine doesn't work that way. I do that, and close the list, then reopen it and they're back. The support engineer suggested I do the delete, reboot the box and look again. No joy there either. After a lot of experimenting, I find I can delete all instances, close the dialog and reopen it. One instance less. Repeat until all are gone.... ;-( Arrrggh!!! Mike Back to top Ian Stuart Guest Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OneCare and IDE "MikeR" <nf4lNoSpam (AT) pobox (DOT) com> wrote in message news:446dc7c3$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Unfortunately, mine doesn't work that way. I do that, and close the list, then reopen it and they're back. Heh heh.... Regards Ian Back to top Peter Herijgers Guest Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OneCare and IDE I had the same effect. Only after restoring to the default settings they were gone. If you open your application again than only one instance is displayed. "Ian Stuart" <ian.stuart (AT) chello (DOT) at> wrote in message news:446dd625$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: "MikeR" <nf4lNoSpam (AT) pobox (DOT) com> wrote in message news:446dc7c3$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Unfortunately, mine doesn't work that way. I do that, and close the list, then reopen it and they're back. Heh heh.... Regards Ian Back to top MikeR Guest Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OneCare and IDE Peter Herijgers wrote: Quote: I had the same effect. Only after restoring to the default settings they were gone. If you open your application again than only one instance is displayed. I'll give it a try. An MS rep did call with a satisfaction survey. The upshot is a 'technical manager' is to call me. Seems like they're trying..... Back to top MikeR Guest Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OneCare and IDE Ian Stuart wrote: Quote: Heh heh.... Regards Ian I'd call Ghostbusters, if I had the toll free number :=} Back to top marc hoffman Guest Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OneCare and IDE MikeR, Quote: Robert Wachtel wrote: For me it sounds that it works as expected. Each and every time you build/compile/start your application in the IDE it differs from the other builds (at least the file date/time). Robert Good point if that's what triggers it. Sure is annoying, tho. You can enable a specific outgoing /port/ in OneCare, and it will never prompt again. (of course, as a downside, it will allow any app to use that port). -- marc hoffman Chief Architect, .NET RemObjects Software http://www.remobjects.com and the fifty-two daughters of the revolution turn the gold to chrome Back to top Steve Zimmelman Guest Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OneCare and IDE You know, for a bunch of software developers (MS), they sure don't seem to understand what developers might need. ;/ -Steve- "MikeR" <nf4lNoSpam (AT) pobox (DOT) com> wrote in message news:446f3393 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Peter Herijgers wrote: I had the same effect. Only after restoring to the default settings they were gone. If you open your application again than only one instance is displayed. I'll give it a try. An MS rep did call with a satisfaction survey. The upshot is a 'technical manager' is to call me. Seems like they're trying..... 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