BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Patterns konkret book Goto page 1, 2  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi OO design View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message John Proudfoot Guest Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:12 am    Post subject: Patterns konkret book http://www.software-support.biz/sus/sus_buch/psecom,id,50,nodeid,11,_l anguage,uk.html Has anyone read this book? Whilst I do not speak German I was considering buying the book as it comes with source for the 24 patterns he discusses. Has anyone looked at the code to determine how easy I might find it to understand the code on its own? -- John Back to top Ulrich Kobsa Guest Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: Patterns konkret book Quote: http://www.software-support.biz/sus/sus_buch/psecom,id,50,nodeid,11,_l anguage,uk.html Has anyone read this book? Whilst I do not speak German I was considering buying the book as it comes with source for the 24 patterns he discusses. Has anyone looked at the code to determine how easy I might find it to understand the code on its own? John, I have this book and in my very own opinion it is wasted money. Also when you just look at the source code it is very very confusing. An example: The description of the builder pattern contains a code fragment function TPanelMaker.CreatePanel(aParent: TWinControl; aBuild: TBuilder): TPanel .... So I looked for this TBuilder class but didn´t found it in the text. Also searching the code doesn´t give it. So what´s the use of this? After short looking over all the delivered code, it seems to me that the author has put in some units from existing(?) projects that include more or less some patterns, unfortunatly not one single unit for a single pattern but often more then one patterns in on unit (whereas the unitname doesn´t state clearly what patterns can be found in it, e.g. fchaos.pas) Maybe you can ask the publisher if they can send you parts of the code so that you can make your own opinion. greetings, Ulrich -- Ulrich Kobsa Posted using XanaNews 1.16.4.6 Back to top Joanna Carter (TeamB) Guest Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: Patterns konkret book "John Proudfoot" <John (AT) proudfoot (DOT) spam.co.uk> a écrit dans le message de news: [email]41874ebc (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com[/email]... Quote: Has anyone read this book? Whilst I do not speak German I was considering buying the book as it comes with source for the 24 patterns he discusses. Has anyone looked at the code to determine how easy I might find it to understand the code on its own? Having just looked at the sample pdf file, I found the code included there to be excessively convoluted with some quite esoteric ideas. Like you I don't speak any German beyond the veeeeerrrryyyyy basics, but some of the technical details in the code seemed odd. But maybe there were explanations in the text that i could not understand :-) Joanna -- Joanna Carter (TeamB) Consultant Software Engineer TeamBUG support for UK-BUG TeamMM support for ModelMaker Back to top John Proudfoot Guest Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Patterns konkret book Thanks I will limit myself to just using GoF and Refactoring to Patterns plus the old articles on the Delphi Mag CD. Thanks -- John Back to top Jim Cooper Guest Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Patterns konkret book Quote: I will limit myself to just using GoF and Refactoring to Patterns plus the old articles on the Delphi Mag CD. If you haven't already got it from a conference, I can send you my Patterns paper if you like. Drop me an email if you want it Cheers, Jim Cooper _______________________________________________ Jim Cooper [email]jim (AT) falafelsoft (DOT) com[/email] Falafel Software http://www.falafelsoft.co.uk _______________________________________________ Back to top David Clegg Guest Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:31 am    Post subject: Re: Patterns konkret book Jim Cooper wrote: Quote: If you haven't already got it from a conference, I can send you my Patterns paper if you like. If this is an open invitation, I'd really love a copy. -- Cheers, David Clegg [email]dclegg (AT) gmail (DOT) com[/email] Vote 1 http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=21489 Now supports Google Groups searching with Dyna-extend(tm) technology! QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. http://qc.borland.com "Weaselling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals. Except the weasel." - Homer Simpson Back to top Sven Heising Guest Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: Patterns konkret book Jim Cooper schrieb: Quote: If you haven't already got it from a conference, I can send you my Patterns paper if you like. Drop me an email if you want it Hi Jim, perhaps you are able to upload these Papers as maybe a few of us are interested in reading them. I am definatly interested. TIA -- Greetings from rainy Germany Sven Heising Back to top Chris Parkinson Guest Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Patterns konkret book would that be the same as the two articles on the UKBUG server? http://www.richplum.co.uk/downloads/default.asp or has it been updated for BorCon2004? -- Chris Parkinson Vertis Direct Marketing Services Back to top Jim Cooper Guest Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: Patterns konkret book Quote: would that be the same as the two articles on the UKBUG server? Nah, completely different :-) Cheers, Jim Cooper _______________________________________________ Jim Cooper [email]jim (AT) falafelsoft (DOT) com[/email] Falafel Software http://www.falafelsoft.co.uk _______________________________________________ Back to top Jim Cooper Guest Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: Patterns konkret book Quote: perhaps you are able to upload these Papers OK, I've uploaded it to b.p.d.attachments Cheers, Jim Cooper _______________________________________________ Jim Cooper [email]jim (AT) falafelsoft (DOT) com[/email] Falafel Software http://www.falafelsoft.co.uk _______________________________________________ Back to top Shinco Guest Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: Patterns konkret book i am also definitely interested. b.p.d.attachments? what for the detail? Thanks Shinco "Jim Cooper" <jim.cooper (AT) virgin (DOT) net> wrote Quote: perhaps you are able to upload these Papers OK, I've uploaded it to b.p.d.attachments Cheers, Jim Cooper _______________________________________________ Jim Cooper [email]jim (AT) falafelsoft (DOT) com[/email] Falafel Software http://www.falafelsoft.co.uk _______________________________________________ Back to top Shinco Guest Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Patterns konkret book i am also definitely interested. b.p.d.attachments? what for the complete url? Thanks Shinco "Jim Cooper" <jim.cooper (AT) virgin (DOT) net> wrote Quote: perhaps you are able to upload these Papers OK, I've uploaded it to b.p.d.attachments Cheers, Jim Cooper _______________________________________________ Jim Cooper [email]jim (AT) falafelsoft (DOT) com[/email] Falafel Software http://www.falafelsoft.co.uk _______________________________________________ Back to top Deborah Pate (TeamB) Guest Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: Patterns konkret book < b.p.d.attachments? what for the complete url? Quote: It's in the borland.public.attachments newsgroup. http://newsgroups.borland.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article&group=borland.public.attachments&item=8200&utag= -- Deborah Pate (TeamB) http://delphi-jedi.org Use Borland servers; TeamB don't see posts via ISPs http://www.borland.com/newsgroups/genl_faqs.html Back to top Sven Heising Guest Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:36 am    Post subject: Re: Patterns konkret book Hi Jim Quote: OK, I've uploaded it to b.p.d.attachments Thanks a lot! Cheers, At last when it's friday, i'll have a drink on you! -- Greetings from rainy Germany Sven Heising Back to top Chris Parkinson Guest Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:39 am    Post subject: Re: Patterns konkret book thanks for posting -- Chris Parkinson Vertis Direct Marketing Services Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi OO design All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2   Jump to: Select a forum C++ Builder Newsgroups----------------C++ BuilderC++ Builder (ActiveX)C++ Builder (Announcements)C++ Builder (Command Line Tools)C++ Builder DatabasesC++ Builder Databases (ADO)C++ Builder Databases (Desktop)C++ Builder Databases (InterBase Express)C++ Builder Databases (Multi-Tier)C++ Builder Databases (SQL Servers)C++ Builder (Graphics)C++ Builder (IDE)C++ Builder (Internet)C++ Builder (Internet Socket)C++ Builder (Internet Web)C++ Builder (Jobs)C++ Builder (Language)C++ Builder (Language C++)C++ Builder (Compatibility with MFC)C++ Builder (Native API)C++ Builder (Non-Technical)C++ Builder (Students)C++ Builder (Third Party Tools)C++ Builder (Upgrade)C++ Builder (VCL)C++ Builder (VCL Components Usage)C++ Builder (VCL Components Development)C++ Builder (VCL Usage)C++ Builder (WinAPI)C++ Builder Installation Delphi Newsgroups----------------Delphi (General)Delphi ActiveX Controls UsageDelphi ActiveX Controls DevelopmentDelphi As400Delphi DatabasesDelphi Databases (ADO)Delphi Databases (dbExpress)Delphi Databases (Desktop)Delphi Databases (InterBase Express)Delphi Databases (Multi-Tier)Delphi Databases (SQL Servers)Delphi DeploymentDelphi GraphicsDelphi IDEDelphi InternationalizationDelphi InternetDelphi Internet Isapi-WebBrokerDelphi Internet WebSnapDelphi Internet WinsockDelphi JobsDelphi Language BASMDelphi Language ObjectPascalDelphi Model Driven Architecture (General)Delphi Model Driven Architecture (Third Party)Delphi MultimediaDelphi Native APIDelphi Non-TechnicalDelphi ObjectPascalDelphi OLE AutomationDelphi OO designDelphi OpenToolsAPIDelphi Reporting-ChartingDelphi RTLDelphi StudentsDelphi TeamSourceDelphi Thirdparty ToolsDelphi Thirdparty Tools (General)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (RaveReports)Delphi UpgradeDelphi VCLDelphi VCL ComponentsDelphi VCL Components UsingDelphi VCL Components WritingDelphi WebServices SOAPDelphi WinAPIDelphi XMLDelphi Installationcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.misccomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usagecomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.writingcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.databasescomp.lang.pascal.delphi.misccomp.sources.delphi JBuilder Newsgroups----------------JBuilderJBuilder AnnouncementsJBuilder Applet IssuesJBuilder As400JBuilder CompilerJBuilder CORBA/RMIJBuilder DatabasesJBuilder DB SwingJBuilder DebuggerJBuilder DeploymentJBuilder DocumentationJBuilder EnterpriseJBuilder HandheldJBuilder IDEJBuilder JavaJBuilder JavaAPIJBuilder Java LanguageJBuilder Java SwingJBuilder Java BeansJBuilder Java Beans UsageJBuilder Java Beans DevelopmentJBuilder JBCLJBuilder JDataStoreJBuilder JobsJBuilder LinuxJBuilder MacintoshJBuilder & MobileSetJBuilder MultiLingual AppsJBuilder Non-TechnicalJBuilder OpenToolsJBuilder Servlets (JSP)JBuilder StudentsJBuilder Team DevelopmentJBuilder Thirdparty ToolsJBuilder UpgradeJBuilder Installation InterBase Newsgroups----------------InterBaseInterBase Bug DiscussionInterBase GeneralInterBase IBConsoleInterBase OpenSourceInterBase ReplicationInterBase SQLInterBase ThirdpartyInterBase Installation Miscellaneous Borland Newsgroups----------------AppCenterAppServerEnteraVisiBroker  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.