BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Planing a new project. IntraWeb?          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message LC Guest Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:54 pm    Post subject: Planing a new project. IntraWeb? Hi, Im in the planing of a new project, and I wondered if IntraWeb is the tool to select. I hope someone can give me a serious clue. My company hosts an SQL-Server, with lots of data, for a large company. I need to build a WEB-interface to the SQL-Server, with possibly +50 remote users. They all need to be able to login, and have their private data presented. Can IntraWeb solve this? Does anyone have experience? Should I use IntraWeb in Page-mode or Application-mode? Am I right to assume, that if I use IntraWeb in Application-mode, nothing needs to be installed on the remote PC ? (except a browser e.g. IE) What kind of WEB-server do you recommend, to run the above application? Kind Regards Lars Back to top Olaf Monien (Atozed Softw Guest Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Planing a new project. IntraWeb? LC wrote: Quote: Im in the planing of a new project, and I wondered if IntraWeb is the tool to select. I hope someone can give me a serious clue. Sure - IntraWeb does everything, but cooking coffee. Sorry, I'm biased ;-) Quote: My company hosts an SQL-Server, with lots of data, for a large company. I need to build a WEB-interface to the SQL-Server, with possibly +50 remote users. They all need to be able to login, and have their private data presented. Can IntraWeb solve this? Does anyone have experience? Yes, Iw can handle that. One customer I do consulting for has a couple of MS SQL DB's (total 6-8 GB of data), and he has several IW apps using that data with at least 50-100 users. Quote: Should I use IntraWeb in Page-mode or Application-mode? It depends. If you just have a few unrelated pages, with no real state (i.e. no specific start form and no defined path how the forms are shown ), then page mode might be best. AppMode is what 95% of all IW apps are usign though. Quote: Am I right to assume, that if I use IntraWeb in Application-mode, nothing needs to be installed on the remote PC ? (except a browser e.g. IE) correct. Just IE (or FireFox or Opera) is required on the client side. Quote: What kind of WEB-server do you recommend, to run the above application? IIS 6 + ISAPI, or if you don't want to run a web server, then install as service application (IW brings its own webserver in that case). The customer I was quoting above, uses service type apps behind an OctaGate load balancer: www.octagate.com -- Regards, Olaf Monien Atozed Software ---------------------------------- Blog: blogs.atozed.com/olaf Free CMS:www.atozed.com/iws Back to top LC Guest Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Planing a new project. IntraWeb? Thanks a lot for your replies Olaf, The last thing about not needing a web server is interesting... Can you be more specific ? -or can you point me towards some doc. Without the use of a web server, is it still possible to access the IntraWeb apps from the internet, or only on a intranet? Regards Lars "Olaf Monien (Atozed Software)" <olaf-no-spam-please (AT) atozed (DOT) com> wrote in message news:44884372$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: LC wrote: What kind of WEB-server do you recommend, to run the above application? IIS 6 + ISAPI, or if you don't want to run a web server, then install as service application (IW brings its own webserver in that case). The customer I was quoting above, uses service type apps behind an OctaGate load balancer: www.octagate.com -- Regards, Olaf Monien Atozed Software ---------------------------------- Blog: blogs.atozed.com/olaf Free CMS:www.atozed.com/iws Back to top Sam Remek Guest Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Planing a new project. IntraWeb? LC wrote: Quote: Thanks a lot for your replies Olaf, The last thing about not needing a web server is interesting... Can you be more specific ? -or can you point me towards some doc. PMFJI, your IW application can compile to an .exe file (AppMode not PageMode) that contains the webserver so you don't need IIS. You can also run it as a service. Running with the built in webserver is also the easiest way to set it up compared to IIS. Quote: Without the use of a web server, is it still possible to access the IntraWeb apps from the internet, or only on a intranet? Both Sam Quote: Regards Lars "Olaf Monien (Atozed Software)" <olaf-no-spam-please (AT) atozed (DOT) com> wrote in message news:44884372$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... LC wrote: What kind of WEB-server do you recommend, to run the above application? IIS 6 + ISAPI, or if you don't want to run a web server, then install as service application (IW brings its own webserver in that case). The customer I was quoting above, uses service type apps behind an OctaGate load balancer: www.octagate.com -- Regards, Olaf Monien Atozed Software ---------------------------------- Blog: blogs.atozed.com/olaf Free CMS:www.atozed.com/iws Back to top Loren Szendre Guest Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: Planing a new project. IntraWeb? LC, just so you know, we used to do all our major corporate web apps as ISAPI or Apache dll's. We have now converted to using IntraWeb against a RemObjects middle tier, accessing SQL Server 2005. We are starting to compile them all as services, and we use octagate so that outside users can use the normally expected port 80. It works extremely well. Our web apps perform better than ever, and response times, even with combos loaded with a couple thousand items, the pages respond like lightning. We are sold. Cheers, Loren Back to top Olaf Monien (Atozed Softw Guest Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Planing a new project. IntraWeb? LC wrote: Quote: The last thing about not needing a web server is interesting... Can you be more specific ? -or can you point me towards some doc. The both others who already relpied already answered your question. You have the oprion to compile your into a single exe, which contains an Indy based Web server (which is of course optimized for IntraWeb). Some docs are here: http://tinyurl.com/zdch2 http://tinyurl.com/k5o94 -- Regards, Olaf Monien Atozed Software ---------------------------------- Blog: blogs.atozed.com/olaf Free CMS:www.atozed.com/iws Back to top Sam Remek Guest Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:30 am    Post subject: Re: Planing a new project. IntraWeb? Loren Szendre wrote: Quote: LC, just so you know, we used to do all our major corporate web apps as ISAPI or Apache dll's. We have now converted to using IntraWeb against a RemObjects middle tier, accessing SQL Server 2005. We are starting to compile them all as services, and we use octagate so that outside users can use the normally expected port 80. It works extremely well. Our web apps perform better than ever, and response times, even with combos loaded with a couple thousand items, the pages respond like lightning. We are sold. Cheers, Loren Loren, That's good to hear. Have you monitored the number of page views you're getting per second per webserver? Or the max # of users connected per webserver? It would be interesting to see what type of load you're experiencing. Sam Back to top LC Guest Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Planing a new project. IntraWeb? Thanks a lot for your replies, it really sounds like IntraWeb is worth exploring... Do you have any recommendations regarding IntraWeb DB-drivers to an SQL-Server? I have been using ADO for my latest Windows program, but BDS contains ADO, DBExpress, BDE, TClientDataset... What is your opinion? The reason im asking is because I've tried to create an IntraWeb test application, using ADO --> SQL-Server. (data shown in a IWDBGrid) But when I run the App, I get an exception, 'coInitialize has not been called' ? Regards Lars "Loren Szendre" <zorenlendry (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4489c86d$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: LC, just so you know, we used to do all our major corporate web apps as ISAPI or Apache dll's. We have now converted to using IntraWeb against a RemObjects middle tier, accessing SQL Server 2005. We are starting to compile them all as services, and we use octagate so that outside users can use the normally expected port 80. It works extremely well. Our web apps perform better than ever, and response times, even with combos loaded with a couple thousand items, the pages respond like lightning. We are sold. Cheers, Loren Back to top Klaus Guest Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Planing a new project. IntraWeb? "LC" <lc (AT) lcgruppen (DOT) dk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:448d4527 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Thanks a lot for your replies, it really sounds like IntraWeb is worth exploring... Do you have any recommendations regarding IntraWeb DB-drivers to an SQL-Server? I have been using ADO for my latest Windows program, but BDS contains ADO, DBExpress, BDE, TClientDataset... What is your opinion? The reason im asking is because I've tried to create an IntraWeb test application, using ADO --> SQL-Server. (data shown in a IWDBGrid) But when I run the App, I get an exception, 'coInitialize has not been called' ? You must change the ComInitialization-property in the ServerController Form. (ciMultiThreaded or ciNormal) We also use ADO on a MSSQL 2000/2005 Server and it works fine and fast. 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