BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Preserve Calculated TFields..          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Robert Brock Guest Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:18 pm    Post subject: Preserve Calculated TFields.. I'm on D5, so don't know if D6 or 7 already have this, but if they don't, a sweet thing for D9 would be the ability to have a checkbox on the TFields editor (and a default in project options) to 'Preserve Calculated TFields'.. Essentially make all calculated TFields un-deletable. Great for when you want to reinstantiate the entire TField list, and not have to first check to see if it has an OnCalcFields event defined.. If it does, you then need to NOT select those TFields when getting ready to delete them all.. If the TFields are used in a grid, it makes it even more fun, as the Calc'd fields are of course interspersed amongst the others depending on grid column order.. If the query is fetching a herd and a third of columns, and you don't have them memorized or something, even perusing the OnCalcFields event won't necessarily find them all, as sometimes I use Calc'd fields for canvases to draw icons on, which ends up with you iterating through the entire list, checking the fkKind property.. *squints* Click the 'Preserve Calculated Fields' checkbox, select all TFields, Delete, Calc'd TFields remain.. A fairly simple enhancement that would vastly increase productivity in those situations.. On further thought, another one 'Preserve Labels & Masks' would be great as well.. For large grids I've found myself actually using a temporary TQuery to have the old and new side by side, and iterating down to manually copy Masks and DisplayLabels from one set to the other.. That would be more interesting to implement, however.. Rob Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Preserve Calculated TFields.. "Robert Brock" <Notta (AT) Nowhere (DOT) Net> wrote: Quote: I'm on D5, so don't know if D6 or 7 already have this, but if they don't, a sweet thing for D9 would be the ability to have a checkbox on the TFields editor (and a default in project options) to 'Preserve Calculated TFields'.. Actually this would be a simple editor replacement for the default TFields editor. Should be fairly simple to do and anyone can do it. Back to top Robert Brock Guest Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Preserve Calculated TFields.. Ahh, that effectively kills that idea then, and here's some why and whatfor, and whatnot.. I don't wany 'anyone' to do it, I want Borland to do it, it's their IDE, I trust *them*.. I certainly don't have the time or the desire to do it myself.. I'm an application developer, ie, a 'user' of Delphi, not a tools developer.. I have all I can handle keeping up with first and foremost, our own application, and then Delphi, Databases, Middleware, and the existing batch of third party tools that, had I known then what I know now, I'd probably not have chosen to use at least half of them.. And as I'm still in D5 using the BDE, you can see how well that's going.. As our 750 forms use Orpheus components extensively, and the Sourceforge version is stuck at D7, D7 is my next aspiration, after which I'll need to re-do all those forms in order to head to D9.. Bleah. Reading that over, why am I bothering to even post wishlist items for D9, eh? I don't want to rely on someone else to do it, and worry about them being around as Delphi morphs with time.. Long ago, I needed a TabSet that would have tabs on the left, yet with horizontal text, bought a great little set of components called 'Chameleon Tab Controls' by Classic Software that accomplished that, as Orpheus' Notebook didn't.. And now of course, Classic has been out of business for several years, and I have no idea if this component will work in D7, if it doesn't, there's another slew of forms I have to deal with to be able to upgrade, or spend gobs of time trying to figure out and modify that source.. They say get the source code for third party components, but the ugly reality is, if they go out of business and/or open-source it, you're hosed, unless you can clone yourself several times.. What I'm saying amidst all the whining and blather, is if it's that simple, then it could be done in about 1.5 Dr. Peppers by the Borland dev team, and it'd be another little plus for the IDE's efficiency, and I wouldn't have another nightmare to look forward to at the next odd numbered version of Delphi.. Rob Back to top David Clegg Guest Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:23 am    Post subject: Re: Preserve Calculated TFields.. Robert Brock wrote: Quote: if it's that simple, then it could be done in about 1.5 Dr. Peppers by the Borland dev team, Thats a big assumption. How do you know they don't drink Coke? ;-) -- Cheers, David Clegg dclegg_at_ebetonline_dot_com Vote 1 http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=21489 Now supports Google Groups searching with Dyna-extend(tm) technology! QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. http://qc.borland.com "Beer. Now there's a temporary solution." - Homer Simpson Back to top JED Guest Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:42 am    Post subject: Re: Preserve Calculated TFields.. David Clegg wrote: Quote: How do you know they don't drink Coke? because Dr Pepper is a lot nicer <vbg> -- JED, QC - Win32 Client for Quality Central: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~jed/QC/ Alpha 2.6.1 Now Available (2 July 2004) Back to top David Clegg Guest Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:45 am    Post subject: Re: Preserve Calculated TFields.. JED wrote: Quote: because Dr Pepper is a lot nicer *Nothing* is nicer than Coke -- Cheers, David Clegg dclegg_at_ebetonline_dot_com Vote 1 http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=21489 Now supports Google Groups searching with Dyna-extend(tm) technology! QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. http://qc.borland.com "Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen." - Homer Simpson Back to top JED Guest Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:52 am    Post subject: Re: Preserve Calculated TFields.. David Clegg wrote: Quote: JED wrote: because Dr Pepper is a lot nicer Nothing is nicer than Coke coke is horrid unless there is a *lot* of alcohol in it. -- JED, QC - Win32 Client for Quality Central: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~jed/QC/ Alpha 2.6.1 Now Available (2 July 2004) Back to top Robert Brock Guest Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:49 am    Post subject: Re: Preserve Calculated TFields.. *grin* Well, I was a Pepsi guy for millenia, then switched to DP, and never went back... After re-reading my answer, it sounded almost rantish, and I just wanted to say that while I sounded rather cranky, I do appreciate your answer, Mr. Overcash.. Rob Back to top JED Guest Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:10 am    Post subject: Re: Preserve Calculated TFields.. Robert Brock wrote: Quote: After re-reading my answer, it sounded almost rantish, and I just wanted to say that while I sounded rather cranky, I do appreciate your answer, Mr. Overcash.. You never know, someone might be interested in this idea enough to create a QC feature request for it and even provide the code. Then Borland would have no excuse but to include it... I just had a look at this and the change wouldn't be that involved at all. Just a simple modification to the RemoveFields method of the property editor and then registering the alternate property editor for datasets. Getting a GUI to cater for this change will definately make for interesting opinion. Perhaps adding a context menu item that displayed a dialog that allowed you to select which FieldKinds to leave when a delete occurs and then save it in the registry. Also you would have to cater for a Forceful delete. This could be done by requiring the user to select each field and deleting it separately. (probably would have been quicker to make the adjustment than write this message...) -- JED, QC - Win32 Client for Quality Central: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~jed/QC/ Alpha 2.6.1 Now Available (2 July 2004) Back to top John Kaster (Borland) Guest Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Preserve Calculated TFields.. JED in <xn0dm61y5ev05g00a (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com> wrote: Quote: You never know, someone might be interested in this idea enough to create a QC feature request for it and even provide the code. Then Borland would have no excuse but to include it... Except for QA and pubs work. ;) -- John Kaster, Borland Developer Relations, http://bdn.borland.com BorCon2004, all info in one place! http://info.borland.com/conf2004 Features and bugs: http://qc.borland.com Get source: http://cc.borland.com Unofficial information overload: http://blogs.borland.com Back to top JED Guest Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Preserve Calculated TFields.. John Kaster (Borland) wrote: Quote: JED in <xn0dm61y5ev05g00a (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com> wrote: You never know, someone might be interested in this idea enough to create a QC feature request for it and even provide the code. Then Borland would have no excuse but to include it... Except for QA and pubs work. I was going to bite and had a lengthy reply but in the end I just can't be bothered. I guess the original poster will just stick with D5. -- JED, QC - Win32 Client for Quality Central: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~jed/QC/ Alpha 2.6.1 Now Available (2 July 2004) Back to top John Kaster (Borland) Guest Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Preserve Calculated TFields.. JED in <xn0dm76ey1q7ex000 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com> wrote: Quote: I was going to bite and had a lengthy reply but in the end I just can't be bothered. I didn't post to offend. Just to point out that there is rarely a "slam dunk" decision on new features, however minor. Quote: I guess the original poster will just stick with D5. Or use an add-in. That's part of the whole point of Delphi's design in the first place. -- John Kaster, Borland Developer Relations, http://bdn.borland.com BorCon2004, all info in one place! http://info.borland.com/conf2004 Features and bugs: http://qc.borland.com Get source: http://cc.borland.com Unofficial information overload: http://blogs.borland.com Back to top David Clegg Guest Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:24 am    Post subject: Re: Preserve Calculated TFields.. John Kaster (Borland) wrote: Quote: Or use an add-in. Hey! That would make a great programming competition! ;-) -- Cheers, David Clegg dclegg_at_ebetonline_dot_com Vote 1 http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=21489 Now supports Google Groups searching with Dyna-extend(tm) technology! QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. http://qc.borland.com "First you don't want me to get the pony, then you want me to take it back. Make up your mind." - Homer Simpson Back to top John Kaster (Borland) Guest Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: Preserve Calculated TFields.. David Clegg in <xn0dm7c1f7benv001 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com> wrote: Quote: Hey! That would make a great programming competition! have to finish judging the current one first. 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