BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  QC problems being ignored          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Johannes Bjerregaard Guest Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: QC problems being ignored I realize that QC is not dead, but there are problems out there that seem to be forgotten. Here is one that has 6 votes, and was posted over 2 months ago. It appears that the QC elves keep circling around it. http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?d=24056 There have been a couple of discussions on b.p.d.webservices.wsdl about this problem recently, but no action. I'm wondering if there are areas that are not being covered by said elves. -- Back to top Johannes Bjerregaard Guest Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: QC problems being ignored TObject wrote: Quote: "Johannes Bjerregaard" <jozzb@hotmail> wrote in message news:442977c7$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... I realize that QC is not dead, but there are problems out there that seem to be forgotten. Here is one that has 6 votes, and was posted over 2 months ago... Two months? Get in line, pal, I have reports that have been ignored for over two years. I do too, but they are not showstoppers with several votes. -- Back to top David Dean Guest Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: QC problems being ignored In article <442977c7$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, "Johannes Bjerregaard" <jozzb@hotmail> wrote: Quote: I'm wondering if there are areas that are not being covered by said elves. I expect that there are areas where the sysops have little or no experience, and would rather see someone with more experience in that area open the report. -- -David Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. Back to top TObject Guest Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: QC problems being ignored "Johannes Bjerregaard" <jozzb@hotmail> wrote in message news:442977c7$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: I realize that QC is not dead, but there are problems out there that seem to be forgotten. Here is one that has 6 votes, and was posted over 2 months ago... Two months? Get in line, pal, I have reports that have been ignored for over two years. Back to top TObject Guest Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: QC problems being ignored "Johannes Bjerregaard" <jozzb@hotmail> wrote in message news:442981c7$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: I do too, but they are not showstoppers with several votes. It's ok to ignore them, then. [Sarcastic remark] Back to top Chris Burrows Guest Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: QC problems being ignored "TObject" <newsgroupreader (AT) pronografics (DOT) com> wrote in message news:44297d65$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: "Johannes Bjerregaard" <jozzb@hotmail> wrote in message news:442977c7$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... I realize that QC is not dead, but there are problems out there that seem to be forgotten. Here is one that has 6 votes, and was posted over 2 months ago... Two months? Get in line, pal, I have reports that have been ignored for over two years. This might be the best thing that comes out of the proposed Delphi sale. If I was a prospective DevCo, during the technical 'due diligence' process I would be getting technical experts to ask some very searching questions. e.g how / why there are so many outstanding bugs in the system, how serious they are, why it has not been possible to attend to them so far (too difficult, too costly, don't know how to fix it?), the costs involved in fixing them, the risks involved in leaving them unattended etc etc. The status of the data in QC would be a serious obstruction to a possible sale, or at least, may reduce the price that Borland can realistically ask for it. -- Chris Burrows CFB Software http://www.cfbsoftware.com/gpcp Back to top Rick Carter Guest Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:03 am    Post subject: Re: QC problems being ignored Quote: This might be the best thing that comes out of the proposed Delphi sale. If I was a prospective DevCo, during the technical 'due diligence' process I would be getting technical experts to ask some very searching questions. e.g how / why there are so many outstanding bugs in the system, how serious they are, why it has not been possible to attend to them so far (too difficult, too costly, don't know how to fix it?), the costs involved in fixing them, the risks involved in leaving them unattended etc etc. The status of the data in QC would be a serious obstruction to a possible sale, or at least, may reduce the price that Borland can realistically ask for it. Which is why I think the Delphi team, and even their PHBs, realize that it's important that both new development and QA/QC proceed at the present time; they can't afford to go into a "holding pattern" or take a "wait and see" attitude. And, contrary to the rant that started this thread, I think QC is giving the Delphi team the statistics to show that QA/QC and responsiveness to the need for bug fixes has never been better, though it may still fall short of our expectations. I hope the bug mentioned makes it into SP2, even though it's a part of Delphi that I don't work with, because I realize how important it is to at least some of us. Rick Carter carterrk (AT) despammed (DOT) com Chair, Delphi/Paradox SIG, Cincinnati PC Users Group --- posted by geoForum on http://delphi.newswhat.com Back to top Johannes Bjerregaard Guest Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: QC problems being ignored Rick Carter wrote: Quote: And, contrary to the rant that started this thread, I think QC is giving the Delphi team the statistics to show that QA/QC and I hope you weren't referring to my original post as a rant. I was trying to point out the apparently unbalanced attention that is given to different QC items, and give the powers that be a chance to take a look at how they can ensure that important issues are opened in a timely fashion. -- Back to top Mikael Eriksson Guest Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: QC problems being ignored Johannes Bjerregaard wrote: Here is one that has 6 votes Hi. The number of votes does not seem to be a reason to open a report or not. I have managed to gather 43 votes to QC26063. It is just a couple of weeks old so it is perhaps not ripe enough to be opened. :) More likely there are not enough sysops who targets the SOAP issues. A sysop (as far as I know) verifies and opens reports in there own spare time so who can blame a sysop for not doing his "job" when I want them to do it. Perhaps Borland should take a bigger responsibility in QC areas where there are not so many active syops? /Micke Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical All times are GMT Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum C++ Builder Newsgroups----------------C++ BuilderC++ Builder (ActiveX)C++ Builder (Announcements)C++ Builder (Command Line Tools)C++ Builder DatabasesC++ Builder Databases (ADO)C++ Builder Databases (Desktop)C++ Builder Databases (InterBase Express)C++ Builder Databases (Multi-Tier)C++ Builder Databases (SQL Servers)C++ Builder (Graphics)C++ Builder (IDE)C++ Builder (Internet)C++ Builder (Internet Socket)C++ Builder (Internet Web)C++ Builder (Jobs)C++ Builder (Language)C++ Builder (Language C++)C++ Builder (Compatibility with MFC)C++ Builder (Native API)C++ Builder (Non-Technical)C++ Builder (Students)C++ Builder (Third Party Tools)C++ Builder (Upgrade)C++ Builder (VCL)C++ Builder (VCL Components Usage)C++ Builder (VCL Components Development)C++ Builder (VCL Usage)C++ Builder (WinAPI)C++ Builder Installation Delphi Newsgroups----------------Delphi (General)Delphi ActiveX Controls UsageDelphi ActiveX Controls DevelopmentDelphi As400Delphi DatabasesDelphi Databases (ADO)Delphi Databases (dbExpress)Delphi Databases (Desktop)Delphi Databases (InterBase Express)Delphi Databases (Multi-Tier)Delphi Databases (SQL Servers)Delphi DeploymentDelphi GraphicsDelphi IDEDelphi InternationalizationDelphi InternetDelphi Internet Isapi-WebBrokerDelphi Internet WebSnapDelphi Internet WinsockDelphi JobsDelphi Language BASMDelphi Language ObjectPascalDelphi Model Driven Architecture (General)Delphi Model Driven Architecture (Third Party)Delphi MultimediaDelphi Native APIDelphi Non-TechnicalDelphi ObjectPascalDelphi OLE AutomationDelphi OO designDelphi OpenToolsAPIDelphi Reporting-ChartingDelphi RTLDelphi StudentsDelphi TeamSourceDelphi Thirdparty ToolsDelphi Thirdparty Tools (General)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (RaveReports)Delphi UpgradeDelphi VCLDelphi VCL ComponentsDelphi VCL Components UsingDelphi VCL Components WritingDelphi WebServices SOAPDelphi WinAPIDelphi XMLDelphi Installationcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.misccomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usagecomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.writingcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.databasescomp.lang.pascal.delphi.misccomp.sources.delphi JBuilder Newsgroups----------------JBuilderJBuilder AnnouncementsJBuilder Applet IssuesJBuilder As400JBuilder CompilerJBuilder CORBA/RMIJBuilder DatabasesJBuilder DB SwingJBuilder DebuggerJBuilder DeploymentJBuilder DocumentationJBuilder EnterpriseJBuilder HandheldJBuilder IDEJBuilder JavaJBuilder JavaAPIJBuilder Java LanguageJBuilder Java SwingJBuilder Java BeansJBuilder Java Beans UsageJBuilder Java Beans DevelopmentJBuilder JBCLJBuilder JDataStoreJBuilder JobsJBuilder LinuxJBuilder MacintoshJBuilder & MobileSetJBuilder MultiLingual AppsJBuilder Non-TechnicalJBuilder OpenToolsJBuilder Servlets (JSP)JBuilder StudentsJBuilder Team DevelopmentJBuilder Thirdparty ToolsJBuilder UpgradeJBuilder Installation InterBase Newsgroups----------------InterBaseInterBase Bug DiscussionInterBase GeneralInterBase IBConsoleInterBase OpenSourceInterBase ReplicationInterBase SQLInterBase ThirdpartyInterBase Installation Miscellaneous Borland Newsgroups----------------AppCenterAppServerEnteraVisiBroker  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.