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David Erbas-White
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Question on BDS media Reply with quote



Does the new BDS come on CD, or DVD? More than one disc? Thanks.

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Brion L. Webster
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Question on BDS media Reply with quote



David Erbas-White wrote:

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Does the new BDS come on CD, or DVD? More than one disc? Thanks.

Depends on what SKU you order for exact counts.

My Architect box came with:
4 Compact Discs (per the numbering), BDS itself is on Disks 1 - 3.
Disk 4 is things like Samples, Remote Debuggging, etc. The install never
prompts for Disk 4. Actually, I chose not to install Component 1, so it
may be on there too.

1 Partner DVD

2 StarTeam Compact Discs

1 MS SQL Server 2000 Developer release A Compact Disc

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David Perkins
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Question on BDS media Reply with quote



David Erbas-White wrote:
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Does the new BDS come on CD, or DVD? More than one disc? Thanks.

From reading other posts, it appears to come on 3 CDs with a DVD
containing the third-party stuff.

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Alex Bakaev [TeamB]
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Question on BDS media Reply with quote

David Erbas-White wrote:
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Does the new BDS come on CD, or DVD? More than one disc? Thanks.

David Erbas-White

CDs. DVD for next release.

..a

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John Kaster (Borland)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 5:12 am    Post subject: Re: Question on BDS media Reply with quote

Alex Bakaev [TeamB] wrote:

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CDs. DVD for next release.

I don't believe we have confirmed anywhere that the next release will
be all DVDs.

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Alex Bakaev [TeamB]
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Question on BDS media Reply with quote

John Kaster (Borland) wrote:

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I don't believe we have confirmed anywhere that the next release will
be all DVDs.


OK, now would be a good opportunity to do so :)

..a

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Michael Gillen
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Question on BDS media Reply with quote

John Kaster (Borland) wrote:

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I don't believe we have confirmed anywhere that the next release will
be all DVDs.

Ahhh, partner up with some one like Lite-On or Plexstor. Offer BDS and include a DVD reader for a
nominal charge!

Microsoft started doing that early. Back in another time... you could get a CD-ROM drive for only
$1200 when purchasing Microsoft C.

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John Kaster (Borland)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:03 am    Post subject: Re: Question on BDS media Reply with quote

Michael Gillen wrote:

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Ahhh, partner up with some one like Lite-On or Plexstor. Offer BDS
and include a DVD reader for a nominal charge!

We've discussed this for years. Even giving away a DVD reader is not a
solution for too large a portion of our customers, based on current
feedback.

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John Kaster (Borland)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:04 am    Post subject: Re: Question on BDS media Reply with quote

Alex Bakaev [TeamB] wrote:

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OK, now would be a good opportunity to do so Smile

I'm don't attempt to dicate new terms to our customers ;)

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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:13 am    Post subject: Re: Question on BDS media Reply with quote

At 02:04:15, 28.12.2005, John Kaster (Borland) wrote:

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Alex Bakaev [TeamB] wrote:

OK, now would be a good opportunity to do so :)

I'm don't attempt to dicate new terms to our customers Wink

Yeah well, I'm still cross you abandoned diskettes, and now you even want
me to install a DVD player? <vbg>

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Rudy Velthuis [TeamB]
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:18 am    Post subject: Re: Question on BDS media Reply with quote

At 03:13:40, 28.12.2005, Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] wrote:

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At 02:04:15, 28.12.2005, John Kaster (Borland) wrote:

Alex Bakaev [TeamB] wrote:

OK, now would be a good opportunity to do so :)

I'm don't attempt to dicate new terms to our customers ;)

Yeah well, I'm still cross you abandoned diskettes, and now you even
want me to install a DVD player?

Actually, I can't imagine a programmer who doesn't at least have one
machine with a DVD player nowadays. We are not talking about normal
customers of shrinkwrap software, we are talking about people who write
software.

Or you could have both in the same box: 1 DVD and x CDs, containing the
same, but the DVD being more convenient: no one has to play the DJ.

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John Kaster (Borland)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: Question on BDS media Reply with quote

Alex Bakaev [TeamB] wrote:

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Now that's got to be the worst post you ever wrote, John Smile

Poor proofreading.

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Alex Bakaev [TeamB]
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: Question on BDS media Reply with quote

John Kaster (Borland) wrote:

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I'm don't attempt to dicate new terms to our customers ;)


Now that's got to be the worst post you ever wrote, John :)

..a

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Roddy Pratt
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: Question on BDS media Reply with quote


"John Kaster (Borland)" <johnk (AT) borland (DOT) com> wrote


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I'm don't attempt to dicate new terms to our customers Wink

Well, I think you already do- not that I have a problem with it. Delphi
"installation requirements" (which are the "terms" here) have changed
significantly over the years (memory, disk space, OS, CPU). And, was it
originally available on floppy?

Anyway, you're already shipping dual-media packages: Putting a second copy
of the install on Delphi install set on the DVD would help you fill it up...

- Roddy



Borl: We've got a great new version of Delphi out!
Customer: cool.

Borl: But, you'll have to upgrade from Win95 to XP
Customer: no problem!

Borl: ...and, you really ought to rewrite all your software to run under
..NET
Customer: Looking forward to it - it'll help me justify my budget for next
year!

Borl: And replace all those ageing 486's with state-of-the art processors
packed with memory for optimal performance
Customer: Easy - we'll just swap the R&D machines with Marketing

Borl:... and you'll need one $20 DVD drive on your site to deploy the
software.
Customer: Oh bummer.....







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Michael Gillen
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: Question on BDS media Reply with quote

John Kaster (Borland) wrote:

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We've discussed this for years. Even giving away a DVD reader is not a
solution for too large a portion of our customers, based on current
feedback.

;-(


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