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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 3:54 am    Post subject: Re: [ANN] CodeFactor Preview 2 Reply with quote



James Jacobson wrote:

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This is a nonnags preview release version, it runs until July 15,
2005. http://codefactor.home.att.net/

I took a look at the site. It sounds like a Good Thing (TM) to me :-)

I especially liked the tone of text describing what it does --easy
to read.

But the last sentence in this paragraph [
Refactoring, http://codefactor.home.att.net/features.html ]

"CodeFactor has some of the more traditional refactorings, extract
method, rename, you can rename anything. You can do it quick by using
an editing dialog that will just rename the item. If the item is found
in many units, hidden away in unlikely places, and you want to rename
all occurrences, there are specialized tools for that. It has a symbol
resolution engine that is pretty precise, it doesn't miss much."

makes me uneasy. What do you mean by "it doesn't miss much"? How
much is much?

One more thing I'd like altered in that site is this: make the
images clickable so that we can see what they look like in
lifesize.

Otherwise a nice product. I'll be evaluating it.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 4:11 am    Post subject: Re: [ANN] CodeFactor Preview 2 Reply with quote



In article <xn0e2mga22paro8001 (AT) forums (DOT) borland.com>,
[email]listmember (AT) letterboxes (DOT) org[/email] says...
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James Jacobson wrote:

Otherwise a nice product. I'll be evaluating it.

I've been using it since the OPEdit days. The only way I will give it up

is to have it ripped from my cold dead fingers.

I use it for all manner of things, especially when I have to rummage
about in other peoples files and discern the object model they are using
and don't need all the bells and whistles that ModelMaker (which I also
use) has. That and being able to muck about in the .dfm and .pas file at
the same time with out the Delphi IDE throwing a hissy fit.

James has done an awesome job and it's one of those little, but
incredible useful tools that I now can't do without.

Don't leave home without it.
--
John
Life is complex. It has real and imaginary parts

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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 4:38 am    Post subject: Re: [ANN] CodeFactor Preview 2 Reply with quote



John Wester [Group W] wrote:

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In article <xn0e2mga22paro8001 (AT) forums (DOT) borland.com>,
[email]listmember (AT) letterboxes (DOT) org[/email] says...
James Jacobson wrote:

Otherwise a nice product. I'll be evaluating it.

I've been using it since the OPEdit days. The only way I will give it
up is to have it ripped from my cold dead fingers.

:-)

I think I understand what you mean here. I have played with it
a little and your'e damn right I won't let it go :-)

Quote:
I use it for all manner of things, especially when I have to rummage
about in other peoples files and discern the object model they are
using and don't need all the bells and whistles that ModelMaker
(which I also use) has. That and being able to muck about in the .dfm
and .pas file at the same time with out the Delphi IDE throwing a
hissy fit.

If I remember right, someone has already written a form editor
for Delphi. If this thing had that too, why would we need Delphi
IDE, I wonder :-)

Quote:
James has done an awesome job and it's one of those little, but
incredible useful tools that I now can't do without.

Don't leave home without it.

Too right. I only wish it supported FPC too. Maybe later.

Cheers,

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Steve Troxell
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 5:52 am    Post subject: Re: [ANN] CodeFactor Preview 2 Reply with quote

James Jacobson wrote:
Quote:
This is a nonnags preview release version, it runs until July 15, 2005.
http://codefactor.home.att.net/


Your "looking back" and "features" link are practically invisible with a
default blue link color in the browser.

Steve

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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: [ANN] CodeFactor Preview 2 Reply with quote

Hello James,

Quote:
+Full featured text editor

In other words, you included the BRIEF keymap support, right?

Randy



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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: [ANN] CodeFactor Preview 2 Reply with quote

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If a project is propery set up, I will bet what little I have left that
it will miss less than any refactoring tool available for Delphi,
including Delphi.

I'm just poking around your program now, and was wondering: what do you mean
by "properly set up"?

--
Tim Sullivan
Unlimited Intelligence Limited
http://www.uil.net



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Dirk Kaiser
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: [ANN] CodeFactor Preview 2 Reply with quote

James Jacobson wrote:

Quote:
This is a nonnags preview release version, it runs until July 15,
2005. http://codefactor.home.att.net/

Jim

Jim -

Couple of things:

Minor Nit: First the "Resource String" icon should have it's tool tip
set to "New Resource String" to be consistant with the other icons
nearby.

Second, I don't see any way to do a save as of the files into UTF-8
format. I'm starting to work with differing character sets and having
to put into the Delphi code some cyrillic characters. When I do this
in Delphi 2005, it prompts me on save if I want to save in UTF-8 file
format. Does CodeFactor do this? What would be great is in the Save
As function to have this ablity so I can edit .ini files as well and
save them as UTF-8 file format -or- maybe some convert ASCII to UTF-8
format.

Looks nice and is very responsive on my laptop (unlike D2005).

-Dirk

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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: [ANN] CodeFactor Preview 2 Reply with quote

James Jacobson wrote:

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If you have to use the characters in the code, it's not going to work.
The tokenizer doesn't recognize them.

Jim

Well I tried it out and yes CF does thrash the cyrillic characters that
D2005 can handle:

//D2005 IDE
TntLabel11.Caption := 'How about this: Казахстан';

into:

//CodeFactor IDE
TntLabel11.Caption := 'How about this:
Казахстан вешаешь
на каждый узел';



The nice thing is I copied that line of code in CF and pasted it again
underneath and saved it. D2005 reloaded the file and now it has the
line displaying correctly twice; it didn't trash the code...

Any thoughts on updating CF so that it can handle the unicode properly?
I really like CF's speed and it's lightweight but this is a fairly
severe issue for me - not quite a showstopper since it doesn't trash
the characters.

-Dirk

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