BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Re: ECDL          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Brion L. Webster Guest Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: ECDL Rhys Sage wrote: Quote: Out of interest, how many programmers here have the ECDL? What's the general consensus on the ECDL. (I have my own suspicions that it's something one never admits to on a resumi). I was just informed that I had two options - the ECDL was one of them. Apparently, I don't. But then again, I might. If I had a clue what ECDL was... Educational CompSci Deficiency Laziness? - perhaps - I've never taken a comp sci course in my life. -Brion Back to top Jan Mitrovics Guest Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 10:10 pm    Post subject: Re: ECDL Rhys Sage wrote: Quote: "Brion L. Webster" <brion.webster (AT) nospam (DOT) ci.fresno.ca.us> wrote in message news:40abba3d$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Apparently, I don't. But then again, I might. If I had a clue what ECDL was... Educational CompSci Deficiency Laziness? - perhaps - I've never taken a comp sci course in my life. Pretty close. European Computer Driving Licence. As it was pioneered (I believe) by the British Computer Society and is currently pedalled by every 3rd rate organisation in the land - the same organisations that usually leap on cheapo scam schemes, I doubt very much that the certificate will even make decent toilet paper. Never heard of this before (I am in Germany). The title to me sounds like something people would get for beeing in some kind of training course for unemployed. If you apply for a programming job it might give a bad picture (since it is propably very basic). Jan Back to top Dirk Guest Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:59 pm    Post subject: Re: ECDL "Rhys Sage" <abuse (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> schreef in bericht news:40ab748e (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Out of interest, how many programmers here have the ECDL? What's the general consensus on the ECDL. (I have my own suspicions that it's something one never admits to on a resumé). I was just informed that I had two options - the ECDL was one of them. -- Yours Rhys It's Word and Excel and getting the Windows Screensaver configured Oh, btw, did I mention it's a scam? What's your other option? Kind regards. Dirk Andries Back to top A Mackie Guest Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: ECDL Quote: Ah. So that's why getting information on it is like bottling Scotch mist You can't have looked very hard! Syllabus, practice tests and other blurb at http://www.ecdl.co.uk/syllabus.php?style=scn http://www.ecdl.co.uk/ecdl.php?style=scn This isn't intended for programmers - it's a basic qualification for end users. Basic stuff like managing files, word processing, spreadsheets, simple database etc. I'd expect programmer qualifications to be something like a computing degree, not an end user qualification like ECDL. Andy Mackie. Back to top Mats Gefvert Guest Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: ECDL Quote: I'd expect programmer qualifications to be something like a computing degree, not an end user qualification like ECDL. Exactly. I've been "offered" this course with heavy threats about worse alternatives. I could do all their 7 tests in half an afternoon! And it's something I'd never ever put on a resumé. I was offered at my last job to take the ECDL as a company-wide computer literacy effort. I declined. Any employer that reads "ECDL" in a resume for any semi-skilled computer profession would kill himself with laughter. Probably. Then there's pointy-haired bosses. Can't answer for them. / Mats Back to top James Guest Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: ECDL "Jan Mitrovics" <mitrovics (AT) web (DOT) de> wrote: Quote: Never heard of this before (I am in Germany). The title to me sounds like something people would get for beeing in some kind of training course for unemployed. If you apply for a programming job it might give a bad picture (since it is propably very basic). I was in a similar situation and was "offered" the same thing. As an unemployed programmer, living in North Wales, I was told to choose between ECDL or sitting in a boring little room for 4 hours a week. The people who ran that thought 6 day old newspapers, free tea and out-dated computers were fantastic. Well I can honestly say that I can do far more job hunting from my own sofa than from there. In the end, just to get off their miserable scheme, I had to sign off and be totally without money for 6 weeks and then to come back and lie that I'd been working. It's really hard in North Wales, when there's no work around. 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