BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Phillip Flores Guest Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books David Erbas-White wrote: [snip] The Delphi Developers Guide by Pacheco and Texeira Mastering Delphi series by Marco Cantu These two books I think will be more than sufficient to get you up and running to speed with Delphi. -- Cheers, Phillip Flores "Keep track of your time...Use VeriTime" http://www.pcfworks.com Back to top David Erbas-White Guest Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books Phillip Flores wrote: Quote: David Erbas-White wrote: [snip] The Delphi Developers Guide by Pacheco and Texeira Mastering Delphi series by Marco Cantu These two books I think will be more than sufficient to get you up and running to speed with Delphi. Thanks. I've ordered the Cantu book for version 5. The version 5 Texiera/Pacheco book seems to be very difficult to find, but I do have the version 4 book of by them. Do you think the differences in the two versions are very great (open question to anyone who might know)? David Erbas-White Back to top Martin Waldenburg Guest Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books David Erbas-White wrote: Quote: Texiera/Pacheco book seems to be very difficult to find, but I do have the version 4 book of by them. Do you think the differences in the two versions are very great (open question to anyone who might know)? version 4 should be sufficient, as there were no language enhancements. Martin Back to top Sierra Spartacus Guest Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books "David Erbas-White" <derbas (AT) arachneering (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Given that background, what books would you folks recommend to read/review to get me quickly off the ground in Delphi? The reason I'd like to do this is that I have some components that I've put together in C++ Builder that I'd like to convert to commercial third-party Delphi components, Based on the above, I would recommend: 1) Delphi Component Design (Thorpe) 2) Developing Custom Delphi Components (Konopka) --and, as the best Delphi reference: 3) Delphi in a Nuts hell (Lischner) The first two may be hard to find, especially #1; check for #2 on www.raizesoftware.com. #3 is an O'Reilly's book -- Clay Shannon, author of "the Wacky Misadventures of Warble McGorkle" Download it at http://tinyurl.com/cent Back to top Craig Stuntz [TeamB] Guest Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books David Erbas-White wrote: Quote: I now find myself needing to re-familiarize myself with Delphi, coming from the background of being very knowledgable on the C++ Builder side (and thus the VCL and IDE from that perspective), and 'dabbling' in the Delphi side. Probably "Delphi in a Nutshell" by Ray Lischner. -Craig -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] . Vertex Systems Corp. . Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://delphi.weblogs.com Everything You Need to Know About InterBase Character Sets: http://delphi.weblogs.com/stories/storyReader$306 Back to top Ignacio Vazquez Guest Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books "David Erbas-White" <derbas (AT) arachneering (DOT) com> wrote in message 3f3339ff$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Given that background, what books would you folks recommend to read/review to get me quickly off the ground in Delphi? Take a look at the two e-books available on Marco Cantu's website. http://www.marcocantu.com/ Cheers, Ignacio -- No, don't send me e-mail directly. No, just don't. Back to top David Erbas-White Guest Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 3:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books Craig Stuntz [TeamB] wrote: Quote: David Erbas-White wrote: I now find myself needing to re-familiarize myself with Delphi, coming from the background of being very knowledgable on the C++ Builder side (and thus the VCL and IDE from that perspective), and 'dabbling' in the Delphi side. Probably "Delphi in a Nutshell" by Ray Lischner. -Craig Reading it now, which is when I decided I should ask... <G> I was so fond of this book that I accidentally bought it twice at one point! David Erbas-White Back to top Dennis Landi Guest Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books "Phillip Flores" <spamaway (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message > Quote: The Delphi Developers Guide by Pacheco and Texeira Mastering Delphi series by Marco Cantu These two books I think will be more than sufficient to get you up and running to speed with Delphi. Yes, that's all. And Ray Lischner's book "Delphi in a Nutshell" would also be useful. And for extra credit Danny Thorpe's book is nice high level backgrounder... Back to top Bob Dawson Guest Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books "Dennis Landi" wrote Quote: And for extra credit Danny Thorpe's book is nice high level backgrounder... Wish he update it (or arrange for a partner to do so). I've seen it for sale at over $100 used--not bad for a tech book four versions out of date ... bobD Back to top Ray Konopka Guest Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books Hi David, Quote: The reason I'd like to do this is that I have some components that I've put together in C++ Builder that I'd like to convert to commercial third-party Delphi components, and they're not really useable to the market as C++ Builder components because of the one-way nature of useability with Delphi/Builder. I'd further like to dive more in depth into some of the Turbopower AsyncPro components, and add some features/fix some bugs in those (since they're open source now), and that requires fairly intimate Delphi knowledge. Although the title has "Delphi 3" in it, all of the material in my "Developing Custom Delphi 3 Components" book is still applicable in the later versions of Delphi. Unfortunately, the book is out of print, however, a PDF Edition is available from Raize Software. http://www.raize.com/DevTools/DCDC Ray -- Ray Konopka http://www.raize.com Back to top Brion L. Webster Guest Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books "David Erbas-White" <derbas (AT) arachneering (DOT) com> wrote... Quote: Thanks. I've ordered the Cantu book for version 5. The version 5 Texiera/Pacheco book seems to be very difficult to find, but I do have the version 4 book of by them. Do you think the differences in the two versions are very great (open question to anyone who might know)? The version 4 book is still an excellent reference, even with D6/7. -- -Brion Team JEDI, 2001 Spirit of Delphi Award Winners http://www.delphi-jedi.org Fresno Area Delphi Users Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FresnoDelphi Back to top David Erbas-White Guest Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books Ray Konopka wrote: Quote: Hi David, Although the title has "Delphi 3" in it, all of the material in my "Developing Custom Delphi 3 Components" book is still applicable in the later versions of Delphi. Unfortunately, the book is out of print, however, a PDF Edition is available from Raize Software. http://www.raize.com/DevTools/DCDC Ray, Thanks for the information. I actually have this one on my shelf, but since I haven't yet developed 'Delphi' components, I haven't gone through it yet, but it's certainly in my 'pile' to go through as part of this process. David Erbas-White Back to top David Erbas-White Guest Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books Based on some of the suggestions here, I made my list of books to get, and went to visit my local Border's bookstore (the only bookstore left in the area with any reasonable selection of computer books). They probably have about a 100-foot length of area, that is floor to ceiling computer books, covering all sorts of areas from operating systems, to applications, to languages, to security, etc. I searched high and low for Delphi books. First, I tried to find a 'Delphi' section, and found one entire shelf labeled "Delphi". That shelf had one (that is, the numeral "1") book on Delphi, Cantu's Delphi 6 Developer's Handbook. Thinking that this must be some mistake, I actually took the time to search every shelf to see if the Delphi books had somehow been misplaced. I found one copy of "Delphi in a Nutshell" in the 'Perl' section (next to "Perl in a Nutshell"). That was it. Nothing else. I remember being quite disappointed when the C++ Builder books seemed to "go away". The last time I went serious "computer book shopping", I found many Delphi books, and just one C++ Builder book. At this point, Delphi is now in that same position. There were literally dozens of books on C++, Visual C++, Visual Basic, CGI, PHP, etc., but the Borland products are losing their reference foothold. Unfortunately, I think this feeds on itself, because it used to be that Borland products could be purchased in your neighborhood computer store, and they had quite a number of books on their products. Lots of times, when computer critters browse the bookshelves, they may decide to purchase a product based on what the books show them the product can do (assuming it's easily differentiated from other products). I think one of the things Borland really has to do is to get BACK to the small-developer roots, as they are the ones who often form the decisions that lead to the larger projects. David Erbas-White Back to top Danny Thorpe Guest Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 1:22 am    Post subject: Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books David, You should shop for Delphi books at the online booksellers, like Amazon.com. Unless you go to a local bookstore that speciallizes in software programming titles, local bookshops will only have "for Dummies" titles or books whose publishers paid extra for retail shelf space. -Danny Back to top Lauchlan M Guest Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 1:36 am    Post subject: Re: Embarassing question about Delphi books Quote: I think one of the things Borland really has to do is to get BACK to the small-developer roots, as they are the ones who often form the decisions that lead to the larger projects. I think that is a great cmponent of a medium-long term strategy. 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