BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message David Clegg Guest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? Nikos wrote: Quote: Your opinion please I most definitely see Borland having a strong future in .NET. And IMHO Enterprise Core Objects is going to be a key player in Borlands success in the .NET arena. This is one area I think their main .NET competitor won't come close to touching for quite some time. -- Cheers, David Clegg [email]dclegg (AT) gmail (DOT) com[/email] Vote 1 http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=21489 Now supports Google Groups searching with Dyna-extend(tm) technology! QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. http://qc.borland.com "Marge, your paintings look like the things they look like." - Homer Simpson. Back to top Peter Morris [Droopy eyes Guest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? hehe, you convert :-) Back to top Kristofer Skaug Guest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? Nikos wrote: Quote: Your opinion please Is there a future for _anyone_ in .NET? -- Kristofer Back to top David Clegg Guest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? Peter Morris [Droopy eyes software] wrote: Quote: hehe, you convert Totally! I'm thinking of renaming my blog "Confessions of an ECO Junkie" :-) Ever since C#Builder came out, ECO was one technology I was extremely interested in investigating further. But it wasn't until recently that I actually knuckled down and started learning it. Now I can't picture life without it. ;-) -- Cheers, David Clegg [email]dclegg (AT) gmail (DOT) com[/email] Vote 1 http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=21489 Now supports Google Groups searching with Dyna-extend(tm) technology! QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. http://qc.borland.com "Beer. Now there's a temporary solution." - Homer Simpson Back to top Steve Heights Guest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? Quote: Is there a future for _anyone_ in .NET? Is there a future for anyone _outside_ .NET? Steve Back to top Adam Roslon Guest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? In article <42e0cf30 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, [email]nandrianakis (AT) summerland (DOT) gr[/email] says... Quote: Your opinion please I think Borland will continue to play a large part in .NET however I don't see the future of .NET as being strong. .NET is not catching on as Microsoft hoped and knowing Microsoft from past experience It's only a matter of time until their marketing machine rolls out the the next technology to save us all and .NET slowly fades into the sunset. Back to top roman modic Guest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? Hello, "Steve Heights" <anaconda51(put an AT here)gmx(this is a DOT)net> wrote in message news:42e0d753 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Is there a future for _anyone_ in .NET? Is there a future for anyone _outside_ .NET? There is future only for those on the edge ... Cheers, Roman Back to top Adam Roslon Guest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? In article <42e0d753 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, "Steve Heights" <anaconda51(put an AT here)gmx(this is a DOT)net> says... Quote: Is there a future for anyone _outside_ .NET? I hope so if Microsoft plans on releasing new versions of their Office suite. Back to top Dominic Willems Guest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:45 am    Post subject: Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? Steve Heights wrote: Quote: Is there a future for anyone _outside_ .NET? Would there be any statistics about what group of developers are moving to .NET, I wonder. Logically, I'd presume that, at the moment, the most prevalent group there are the VB developers, since they have been quite assertively ushered into that direction by their beloved tools provider. For those doing Delphi, the advantages of .NET are not that striking, since essentially there isn't an app that Delphi Win32 can't do elegantly today. Logical that Delphi developers wait for at least .NET 2.0 to surface. Back to top Eric Grange Guest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? Quote: Is there a future for anyone _outside_ .NET? Is there a future for anyone outside Java? Anyway, what's sure is that there isn't much of a future for .Net 1.1 as it already can't access some recent MS APIs as discussed in another thread. Eric Back to top David Clegg Guest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? Dominic Willems wrote: Quote: Would there be any statistics about what group of developers are moving to .NET, I wonder. I know its not much of a sample, but 100% of the last two companies to employ me are migrating to .NET. One was mainly a Visual Studio shop, with me as the renegade Delphi developer, and my current employer is predominantly a Delphi shop. Most of our new development will be in C#, although Delphi still has a strong future there. In fact, my boss talked to me today about upgrading from D6 to D2005 for some of our serverside stuff, and we're all currently busy porting an existing C++ app to D6 (with a week and a half deadline given to us). And we have a Delphi for .NET app in production, thanks to me. <g> -- Cheers, David Clegg [email]dclegg (AT) gmail (DOT) com[/email] Vote 1 http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=21489 Now supports Google Groups searching with Dyna-extend(tm) technology! QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. http://qc.borland.com "Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson Back to top Sergio Sette Guest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? Quote: And IMHO Enterprise Core Objects is going to be a key player in Borlands success in the .NET arena. This is one area I think their main .NET competitor won't come close to touching for quite some time. Are you sure ? There are so many OPF for .NET ...(please see : http://sharptoolbox.com/Category74089b0a-1105-4389-b1db-eedf27e20cfb.aspx) Some of these are really very interesting (i.e. nhibernate - a .net porting of the java ORM Hibernate) Free and Open Source. Best Regards Sergio sette Back to top David Clegg Guest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? Sergio Sette wrote: Quote: Are you sure ? There are so many OPF for .NET Without meaning to trivialise the products you mentioned, ECO is so much more than a mere OPF. The object persistence capabilities are just one of many frameworks and benefits that ECO offers. -- Cheers, David Clegg [email]dclegg (AT) gmail (DOT) com[/email] Vote 1 http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=21489 Now supports Google Groups searching with Dyna-extend(tm) technology! QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. http://qc.borland.com "I am so smart, I am so smart, s-m-r-t ." - Homer Simpson Back to top Kristofer Skaug Guest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? Adam Roslon wrote: <...> knowing Microsoft from past experience It's Quote: only a matter of time until their marketing machine rolls out the the next technology to save us all and .NET slowly fades into the sunset. Correction to that, I think .NET usage (except for legacy) will evaporate almost instantly at the moment Microsoft rolls out the Next Great Stuff. The same suckers who've fallen for the .NET.Hype ("you've gotta-Gotta-GOTTA switch NOW, because your competitors [silly buggers, hehe] already have!") will surely fall for the next wave of hype as well. Only their losses next time will be much bigger than for the Win32/.NET watershed: just a few years' worth of revenues for their .NET investments, in a market that is completely unexcited about that "sooooo turn-of-the-century" fad term. -- Kristofer Back to top Mike Mader Guest Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there a future for Borland in .NET? "Eric Grange" <egrangeNO (AT) SPAMglscene (DOT) org> wrote Quote: Is there a future for anyone _outside_ .NET? Is there a future for anyone outside Java? Anyway, what's sure is that there isn't much of a future for .Net 1.1 as it already can't access some recent MS APIs as discussed in another thread. Eric Our company is starting to focus on Java more than anything. Especially because of the strong support for Java from Oracle. 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