BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jobs b Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Serge Dosyukov (Dragon So Guest Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jobs b I love corporate America. Might be it is a time to became one... ;o) Oh, well... It is a busy morning and will be a busy market (I guess) Quarterly reports ======================== 10-Q - http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FileName=0001193125%2D06%2D096897%2Etxt&FilePath=%5C2006%5C05%5C02%5C&CoName=BORLAND+SOFTWARE+CORP&FormType=10%2DQ%2FA&RcvdDate=5%2F2%2F2006&pdf= 10-K - http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FileName=0001193125%2D06%2D096887%2Etxt&FilePath=%5C2006%5C05%5C02%5C&CoName=BORLAND+SOFTWARE+CORP&FormType=10%2DK&RcvdDate=5%2F2%2F2006&pdf= 8-K - http://biz.yahoo.com/e/060503/borl8-k.html Revenue from the IDE ==================== From the annual report - "Revenue from the IDE products were approximately $84 million, or approximately 30%, of total revenue in the year ended December 31, 2005, a decline of approximately $49 million from 2004." SD> So, DevCo has a budget of at least 84$M and this is in mind that resources what John K and Co had to market IDEs was very limited. "Borland to Cut 300 Jobs" ========================================== http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060503/borland_job_cuts.html?.v=1 http://yahoo.reuters.com/stocks/QuoteCompanyNewsArticle.aspx?storyID=urn:newsml:reuters.com:20060503:MTFH61178_2006-05-03_13-18-50_WEN6643&symbol=BORL.O&rpc=44 CUPERTINO, Calif. (AP) -- Borland Software Corp., a maker of software that's used to develop business applications, said on Wednesday it will cut 300 jobs, or about 20 percent of its full-time staff, as part of a reorganization plan. Borland said the job cuts along with the divestiture of its developer tools group, announced on Feb. 8, should save the company $60 million on an annual basis. "Borland is continuing to execute on the plan we outlined in February," chief executive Tod Nielsen said in a prepared statement. "We believe these changes will not only streamline operations, but will also better align our resources for success in the enterprise." Borland said its developer tools group has attracted "a strong number of qualified bidders," and the company hopes to identify a buyer "within the next several months." Shares of Borland were unchanged in premarket trading from Tuesday's closing price of $5 on the Nasdaq. SD> we have planed movements already over the course of next months. Either we close to the sell-off or to the deadline for people to find a new place. Borland Unveils New Organizational Structure ====================================== http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060503/20060503005304.html?.v=1 "Borland's internally formed Developer Tools Group. This group now consists of approximately 180 Borland employees, with sales, marketing and product teams working independently within the Company." SD> so we have very compact group right now. Which hopefully will find a new home very soon. Fun time - everybody love golf ============================================= From the 10k "...Mr. Nielsen has access to a golf club membership paid for by us. During their tenures with us, Messrs. Fuller and Arnold had access to such golf club membership. The value of the membership is $415,100, which includes $400,000 for the initial purchase of the membership, $12,600 in annual fees and a $2,500 membership transfer fee. These amounts are not reflected in the table above, as it would be difficult for us to pro-rate the respective values to each of the respective Named Executive Officers." SD> I know that a lot of business decisions those days are made while golfing (oh great, old England), but I think somewhere should be a fine line of spending. Is there any "statistic" about how much money Golf participation could bring? Back to top Iman L Crawford Guest Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jo "Serge Dosyukov \(Dragon Soft\)" <serge [AT] dragonsoftru [DoT] com> wrote in news:4458bdde$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com: Quote: SD> I know that a lot of business decisions those days are made while golfing (oh great, old England), but I think somewhere should be a fine line of spending. Is there any "statistic" about how much money Golf participation could bring? It has to be worth at least 20mil in revenue. That's the number thrown about when asked about some new feature or product. -- Iman Back to top Craig Stuntz [TeamB] Guest Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jo Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) wrote: Quote: From the annual report - "Revenue from the IDE products were approximately $84 million, or approximately 30%, of total revenue in the year ended December 31, 2005, a decline of approximately $49 million from 2004." SD> So, DevCo has a budget of at least 84$M and this is in mind that resources what John K and Co had to market IDEs was very limited. That's very inaccurate. DevCo is > IDE products. DevCo's budget also covers *much* more than marketing, and John's job isn't marketing. So while the $84M figure is interesting, it doesn't mean what you imply here. For the record, I think DevCo should have access to more resources, BDN deserves more funding, and golf is distilled evil. But I can't base these personal biases of mine on the number above. -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] · Vertex Systems Corp. · Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz Borland newsgroup denizen Sergio González has a new CD of Irish music out, and it's good: http://tinyurl.com/7hgfr Back to top Serge Dosyukov (Dragon So Guest Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jo Quote: SD> So, DevCo has a budget of at least 84$M and this is in mind that resources what John K and Co had to market IDEs was very limited. That's very inaccurate. DevCo is > IDE products. DevCo's budget also covers *much* more than marketing, and John's job isn't marketing. So while the $84M figure is interesting, it doesn't mean what you imply here. What I am implying here, as you see it? I know but revenue is part of the budget and participate in one. it is not the budget of DevRel though. Read it, do not mix it and do not twist it. 84M is the revenue part of the budget. John, Anders, David I and others spend huge amount of time to promote IDE related part of the products and this is what is important when we are looking at future DevCo (not ALM). Even though marketing is not John's job, it is DevRel which doing it primerely right now for IDE products (from Borland side), don't you think? Quote: For the record, I think DevCo should have access to more resources, BDN deserves more funding, and golf is distilled evil. But I can't base these personal biases of mine on the number above. number is just the number and when they are official, you cannot fight them. Would be nice to see what percent actually went to support IDE products... Back to top Liz Guest Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jo Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) wrote: Quote: "Borland to Cut 300 Jobs" ========================================== http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060503/borland_job_cuts.html?.v=1 http://yahoo.reuters.com/stocks/QuoteCompanyNewsArticle.aspx?storyID=u rn:newsml:reuters.com:20060503:MTFH61178_2006-05-03_13-18-50_WEN6643&s ymbol=BORL.O&rpc=44 and how many will move straight into devco? -- Liz the Brit Delphi things I have released: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk/DelphiThings Back to top TDaniel Guest Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jo We all know what mr Nielsen is doing at the golf course. He has to test it somewhere: http://cc.borland.com/Item.aspx?id=23610 thx TDaniel Back to top Eric Grange Guest Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jo Quote: http://cc.borland.com/Item.aspx?id=23610 So to keep track of your golf scores you need: - a PDA capable of running the CF - either a Wifi module in the PDA, an always-on GPRS connection, or preferably satellite connectivity (or you may lose the connection in bunker #3) - a 24x7 server with fiberoptics interconnected Wifi access points scattered around the course, and always-on GPRS and satellite connectivity - a backup PDA, in case the first one gets dropped/smashed/misplaced or just plain runs out of battery juice - a high-resolution laser color printer to print the scores - a boy with a notepad and a pencil, because you never know when all that technology will go dead on you And you haven't even started taking care of the short grass with all that, no wonder the annual fee is so high ^_^ Eric Back to top Serge Dosyukov (Dragon So Guest Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jo Are you talking about how many people will go with DevCo? "Borland's internally formed Developer Tools Group. This group now consists of approximately 180 Borland employees, with sales, marketing and product teams working independently within the Company." and "Borland will reduce its workforce by approximately 300 employees, or about 20 percent of its regular full-time staff. The majority of staff reductions will come from the re-scoping of Borland's international operations. Upon completion of the workforce reduction, geographic consolidation, and planned divestiture of its Developer Tools Group (announced February , Borland anticipates annualized cost savings of approximately $60 million." - http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060503/20060503005304.html?.v=1 Quote: "Borland to Cut 300 Jobs" ========================================== http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060503/borland_job_cuts.html?.v=1 http://yahoo.reuters.com/stocks/QuoteCompanyNewsArticle.aspx?storyID=u rn:newsml:reuters.com:20060503:MTFH61178_2006-05-03_13-18-50_WEN6643&s ymbol=BORL.O&rpc=44 and how many will move straight into devco? Back to top Serge Dosyukov (Dragon So Guest Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jo LOL > http://cc.borland.com/Item.aspx?id=23610 Back to top Serge Dosyukov (Dragon So Guest Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jo "Captain Jake" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4458dc30 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Not unlike ... Hey, why this "bad mouth" attitude? Rough month? Back to top Captain Jake Guest Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jo "Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft)" <serge [AT] dragonsoftru [DoT] com> wrote in message news:4458bdde$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: I love corporate America. Might be it is a time to became one... ;o) That whole thing reminds me of the luminary that was running Quest Software when I was there. He spent $47 million of the company's money on two jets for executives to use, then the quarterly figures came in they showed a loss of around $47 million dollars (interestingly enough). So he downsized the company, laying off people to offset the difference. Not unlike the married hedge fund owner that cheats on his wife with a cheap 20-something-year-old slut from Romania.. Or the other owner of a hedge fund that tells employees they will not lose their jobs and the cost of the move will be paid for by the company when he announces to them that the company is moving to Seattle from Chicago, only to layoff a good proportion of the staff, and tell many others that they will get no compensation at all, just *days* before the move. (I should re-read Ayn Rand's magnum opus Atlas Shrugged, just for laughs. It is one of the most ridiculous books ever written.) Back to top Rick Carter Guest Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jo Quote: "Borland's internally formed Developer Tools Group. This group now consists of approximately 180 Borland employees, with sales, marketing and product teams working independently within the Company." So, more importantly to most of us, how many of those 180 positions are being cut? Hopefully not 20%? Rick Carter carterrk (AT) despammed (DOT) com Chair, Delphi/Paradox SIG, Cincinnati PC Users Group --- posted by geoForum on http://delphi.newswhat.com Back to top Liz Guest Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jo Serge Dosyukov (Dragon Soft) wrote: Quote: Are you talking about how many people will go with DevCo? Yes Quote: "Borland's internally formed Developer Tools Group. This group now consists of approximately 180 Borland employees, with sales, marketing and product teams working independently within the Company." and "Borland will reduce its workforce by approximately 300 employees, or about 20 percent of its regular full-time staff. The majority of staff reductions will come from the re-scoping of Borland's international operations. Upon completion of the workforce reduction, geographic consolidation, and planned divestiture of its Developer Tools Group (announced February , Borland anticipates annualized cost savings of approximately $60 million." - As devco hasnt been named, a lot of the moves probably havent happened until the whole thing is official. However, Borland can announce that various quantities wont be with them any longer. -- Liz the Brit Delphi things I have released: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk/DelphiThings Back to top Captain Jake Guest Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jo "Rick Carter" <carterrk (AT) despammed (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4458db38 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: "Borland's internally formed Developer Tools Group. This group now consists of approximately 180 Borland employees, with sales, marketing and product teams working independently within the Company." So, more importantly to most of us, how many of those 180 positions are being cut? Hopefully not 20%? Perhaps spinning off 180 employese is considered cutting them? Back to top David Dean Guest Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Revenue from IDE products, 300 Borlanders are loosing jo In article <4458dc30 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, "Captain Jake" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: (I should re-read Ayn Rand's magnum opus Atlas Shrugged, just for laughs. It is one of the most ridiculous books ever written.) Be sure to criticize it in bpot for Eric's benefit. ;) -- -David Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. 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