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Max
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:02 am    Post subject: Running Delphi on USB stick? Reply with quote



Possibel? Is there a project? Work arround?


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Robert Love
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: Running Delphi on USB stick? Reply with quote



Max wrote:

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Possibel? Is there a project? Work arround?

Delphi uses the following plus potentially more
-Registry Entries
-Registered Com Objects
-.NET Assemblies in the GAC
-Borland specific Files in {$Windows}System32
-Files Documents and Settings{$UserName}

Although you can run applications you have written in Delphi on USB
Drive there is no current way to run Delphi from a USB Drive.

Why do you need to run Delphi from a USB Drive?


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Adam Roslon
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Running Delphi on USB stick? Reply with quote



In article <42bbe7cc$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, [email]nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com[/email]
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Quote:
Possibel? Is there a project? Work arround?




Yes and no at least for Delphi 7 and prior. You can install delphi on
the memory stick if you have room on the stick, however Delphi will
require some files to be installed in the System32 directory also. If
you are doing this due to lack of hard disk space it will work, but if
you are looking for a solution to move Delphi from machine to machine
it's won't be worth it.

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Eric Schreiber
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Running Delphi on USB stick? Reply with quote

Adam Roslon wrote:

Quote:
Yes and no at least for Delphi 7 and prior. You can install delphi on
the memory stick if you have room on the stick, however Delphi will
require some files to be installed in the System32 directory also. If
you are doing this due to lack of hard disk space it will work, but
if you are looking for a solution to move Delphi from machine to
machine it's won't be worth it.

If this is the intended goal, the OP might take a look at the recent
thread about VMWare (holy cow, I just realized I've become a VMWare
evangelist). Delphi can be installed within a virtual machine, which
can then be copied to and run on any system where the VMWare
Workstation is installed.


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Loren Pechtel
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:51 am    Post subject: Re: Running Delphi on USB stick? Reply with quote

On 24 Jun 2005 11:38:20 -0700, "Eric Schreiber" <eric at kobayashi dot
com> wrote:

Quote:
If this is the intended goal, the OP might take a look at the recent
thread about VMWare (holy cow, I just realized I've become a VMWare
evangelist). Delphi can be installed within a virtual machine, which
can then be copied to and run on any system where the VMWare
Workstation is installed.

Good luck getting the image onto the stick! The biggest one I've
actually seen is 2gb. XP + Delphi + odds and ends in that?

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Eric Schreiber
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: Running Delphi on USB stick? Reply with quote

Loren Pechtel wrote:

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Good luck getting the image onto the stick! The biggest one I've
actually seen is 2gb. XP + Delphi + odds and ends in that?

I've got a Win2k VM that weighs in at under a gigabyte, with nothing
else installed. Adding D2005 to the mix would result in about 1.5 GB
(based on D2005 professional), so it *could* be done. But no, you're
right that it wouldn't be ideal to try to carry a VM on a USB data key.
He'd need one of those spiffy little portable USB hard drives that hold
20-40 gigs. I know *I* want one!

I was really presenting the VM solution as a way to resolve the other
problem, which is the registry and COM settings.

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Lauchlan M
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:25 am    Post subject: Re: Running Delphi on USB stick? Reply with quote

Quote:
Yes and no at least for Delphi 7 and prior. You can install delphi on
the memory stick if you have room on the stick, however Delphi will
require some files to be installed in the System32 directory also. If
you are doing this due to lack of hard disk space it will work, but
if you are looking for a solution to move Delphi from machine to
machine it's won't be worth it.

If this is the intended goal, the OP might take a look at the recent
thread about VMWare (holy cow, I just realized I've become a VMWare
evangelist). Delphi can be installed within a virtual machine, which
can then be copied to and run on any system where the VMWare
Workstation is installed.

A VM with just Windows 2000 and Delphi 7 on it weighs in at 1.51 GB.

Probably a little big for most USB sticks, but not too big for a DVD.

In any case, this solution assumes that VMWare is installed on the target
machine. If so, it's probably quite a useful way of moving Delphi around.

Another option would be to make a drive image using Ghost or Acromis
TrueImage, and move it around that way, ie copy whole partitions around with
all the registry entries and system files and everything.

This is of course presuming that the user is moving it for their own use, so
it is all legal.

HTH

Lauchlan M



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Lauchlan M
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Running Delphi on USB stick? Reply with quote

Quote:
I was really presenting the VM solution as a way to resolve the other
problem, which is the registry and COM settings.

I think there are utilities around for moving programs, that look for all
the products registry settings, files, etc and archive them to a file and
then extract them to the appropriate place on the target PC.

I presume it gets the relevant information from the install/uninstall
programs, or searching the registry etc for the product name.

I don't have any links handy though.

Lauchlan M



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Thomas Mueller
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:57 am    Post subject: Re: Running Delphi on USB stick? Reply with quote

Hi,

"Eric Schreiber" <eric at kobayashi dot com> wrote:

Quote:
I've got a Win2k VM that weighs in at under a gigabyte, with nothing
else installed.

You can even get a Win2k VM down to around 500 MB if you remove all the .cab
files, but that will require an external drive every time you change
something in the setup.

twm


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Marc Rohloff [TeamB]
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Running Delphi on USB stick? Reply with quote

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:28:30 +1000, Lauchlan M wrote:

Quote:
I think there are utilities around for moving programs, that look for all
the products registry settings, files, etc and archive them to a file and
then extract them to the appropriate place on the target PC.

I presume it gets the relevant information from the install/uninstall
programs, or searching the registry etc for the product name.

I don't have any links handy though.

One is InstallWatch and InstallRite:
http://www.epsilonsquared.com/

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marc rohloff -at- myrealbox -dot- com

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Eric Schreiber
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Running Delphi on USB stick? Reply with quote

Lauchlan M wrote:

Quote:
A VM with just Windows 2000 and Delphi 7 on it weighs in at 1.51 GB.
Probably a little big for most USB sticks, but not too big for a DVD.
In any case, this solution assumes that VMWare is installed on the
target machine.

Well sure, but if we're already in for the 1.5 GB, we certainly can
toss an extra 60 MB in for storing VM on the stick/DVD as well :)


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Eric Schreiber
Kobayashi Software
www.kobayashi.com

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roman modic
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Running Delphi on USB stick? Reply with quote

Hello,

"Loren Pechtel" <lorenpechtel (AT) removethis (DOT) hotmail.com> wrote

Quote:

Good luck getting the image onto the stick! The biggest one I've
actually seen is 2gb. XP + Delphi + odds and ends in that?

http://www.buslink.com/ ( 8 GB for 999$)

Roman



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roman modic
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Running Delphi on USB stick? Reply with quote

Hello,

"Eric Schreiber" <eric at kobayashi dot com> wrote

Quote:
Lauchlan M wrote:

A VM with just Windows 2000 and Delphi 7 on it weighs in at 1.51 GB.
Probably a little big for most USB sticks, but not too big for a DVD.
In any case, this solution assumes that VMWare is installed on the
target machine.

Well sure, but if we're already in for the 1.5 GB, we certainly can
toss an extra 60 MB in for storing VM on the stick/DVD as well :)


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Eric Schreiber
Kobayashi Software
www.kobayashi.com

Or will VMWare release self-executable VM image ;)

Roman



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Mr. John A. Jackson
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Running Delphi on USB stick? Reply with quote

VMWare ACE now allows you to deploy VMWare images without VMWare installed.

"Loren Pechtel" <lorenpechtel (AT) removethis (DOT) hotmail.com> wrote

Quote:
On 24 Jun 2005 11:38:20 -0700, "Eric Schreiber" <eric at kobayashi dot
com> wrote:

If this is the intended goal, the OP might take a look at the recent
thread about VMWare (holy cow, I just realized I've become a VMWare
evangelist). Delphi can be installed within a virtual machine, which
can then be copied to and run on any system where the VMWare
Workstation is installed.

Good luck getting the image onto the stick! The biggest one I've
actually seen is 2gb. XP + Delphi + odds and ends in that?



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