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William Meyer
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:59 pm    Post subject: scrolling and crawling Reply with quote



I'm hoping to find some components that support scrolling and crawling
text. I've plumbed torry.net, and come up nearly empty. If anyone knows
of any sources for same, please let me know.

--
Bill
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"Notice that while no one condemns a buyer wanting more for his money,
not so a seller wanting more for his goods. He's greedy and just out to
make a buck." -- Wayne Dunn
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Jon Lennart Aasenden
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:25 am    Post subject: Re: scrolling and crawling Reply with quote



Hm.. Try searching for "tickers"
Scrolltext was the old amiga term Smile I found a bunch.

Jon Lennart Aasenden

"William Meyer" <wmeyerNO (AT) SPAMsbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
I'm hoping to find some components that support scrolling and crawling
text. I've plumbed torry.net, and come up nearly empty. If anyone knows
of any sources for same, please let me know.

--
Bill
--------

"Notice that while no one condemns a buyer wanting more for his money,
not so a seller wanting more for his goods. He's greedy and just out to
make a buck." -- Wayne Dunn



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Peter Below (TeamB)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: scrolling and crawling Reply with quote



In article <419cff3e$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, William Meyer wrote:
Quote:
I'm hoping to find some components that support scrolling and crawling
text. I've plumbed torry.net, and come up nearly empty. If anyone knows
of any sources for same, please let me know.

Look for "marque" or "marquee" or "banner" as keywords. Search the
newsgroup archives for PBBanner to find a simple example component.


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Peter Below (TeamB)
Use the newsgroup archives :
http://www.mers.com/searchsite.html
http://www.tamaracka.com/search.htm
http://groups.google.com
http://www.prolix.be



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William Meyer
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: scrolling and crawling Reply with quote

On 11/19/04, Jon Lennart Aasenden said:

Quote:
Hm.. Try searching for "tickers"
Scrolltext was the old amiga term Smile I found a bunch.

Thanks, I wouldn't have thought of those terms.

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Bill
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"Notice that while no one condemns a buyer wanting more for his money,
not so a seller wanting more for his goods. He's greedy and just out to
make a buck." -- Wayne Dunn

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William Meyer
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: scrolling and crawling Reply with quote

On 11/20/04, Peter Below (TeamB) said:

Quote:
Look for "marque" or "marquee" or "banner" as keywords. Search the
newsgroup archives for PBBanner to find a simple example component.

Thanks, Peter, I did find a marquee that does a nice job of scrolling
text. Haven't found anything good for crawling yet, though, and web
searches turn up a lot of junk on crawling the web, of course.

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Bill
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"Notice that while no one condemns a buyer wanting more for his money,
not so a seller wanting more for his goods. He’s greedy and just out to
make a buck." -- Wayne Dunn

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William Meyer
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: scrolling and crawling Reply with quote

On 11/22/04, Peter Below (TeamB) said:

Quote:
What is "crawling text" supposed to look like?

Automated vertical movement of the text "crawling" up the screen, much
like movie credits.

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Bill
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"Notice that while no one condemns a buyer wanting more for his money,
not so a seller wanting more for his goods. He’s greedy and just out to
make a buck." -- Wayne Dunn

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Peter Below (TeamB)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: scrolling and crawling Reply with quote

In article <41a221d7$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>, William Meyer wrote:
Quote:
Look for "marque" or "marquee" or "banner" as keywords. Search the
newsgroup archives for PBBanner to find a simple example component.

Thanks, Peter, I did find a marquee that does a nice job of scrolling
text. Haven't found anything good for crawling yet, though, and web
searches turn up a lot of junk on crawling the web, of course.

What is "crawling text" supposed to look like?

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Peter Below (TeamB)
Use the newsgroup archives :
http://www.mers.com/searchsite.html
http://www.tamaracka.com/search.htm
http://groups.google.com
http://www.prolix.be



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William Meyer
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: scrolling and crawling Reply with quote

On 11/22/04, Warrick Wilson said:

Quote:
For what it's worth, I thought the terms were the other way around:
"crawl" is horizontal, "scroll" is vertical. Doesn't help that you
can find sites with "horizontal scrollers" and "vertical scrollers".

So did I, but I changed my usage to conform to what appears to be
conventional in Delphi circles.

Quote:
e.g. CNN has a text crawl across the bottom of their broadcast
signal, but credits for a show are scrolled up the screen.

Yup, but I would also mention that "roll", "scroll", and "crawl" are
all applied to variations of these motions, without any self-evident
/correct/ associations.

At any rate, I have found one component that handles the horizontal
motion (albeit for simple text with no variation in attributes within a
string, such as italics, fg and bg colors, etc.), but so far have not
found even that for the vertical variation.

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Bill
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"Notice that while no one condemns a buyer wanting more for his money,
not so a seller wanting more for his goods. He's greedy and just out to
make a buck." -- Wayne Dunn

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Warrick Wilson
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:04 pm    Post subject: Re: scrolling and crawling Reply with quote

"William Meyer" <wmeyerNO (AT) SPAMsbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
On 11/22/04, Peter Below (TeamB) said:

What is "crawling text" supposed to look like?

Automated vertical movement of the text "crawling" up the screen, much
like movie credits.

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Bill

For what it's worth, I thought the terms were the other way around: "crawl"
is horizontal, "scroll" is vertical. Doesn't help that you can find sites
with "horizontal scrollers" and "vertical scrollers".

e.g. CNN has a text crawl across the bottom of their broadcast signal, but
credits for a show are scrolled up the screen.



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William Meyer
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: scrolling and crawling Reply with quote

On 11/22/04, Warrick Wilson said:

Quote:
Can you tell me which component that is? I've been trying to do
something similar, to replace a Java applet being used on a web page.
I've looked for a number of options, but like you found, the search
terminology makes a huge difference in your results.

TMarquee, from DithoSoft.de:
http://www.torry.net/vcl/misceff/marques/tdmarquee.zip

It does a decent job, but no support for changing attributes within a
string.

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Bill
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"Notice that while no one condemns a buyer wanting more for his money,
not so a seller wanting more for his goods. He's greedy and just out to
make a buck." -- Wayne Dunn

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William Meyer
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:08 pm    Post subject: Re: scrolling and crawling Reply with quote

On 11/22/04, Warrick Wilson said:

Quote:
Can you tell me which component that is?

I've also just downloaded oxLabels (demo version), which included
oxMarquee, and that may be more like what I have been seeking. But so
far, I have not found a communication path with the author. My attempts
to send e-mail have bounced off, and calling the phone number listed on
the site http://www.opaquesoftware.com/support1.htm got a very strange
response; first a dial tone that sounded like a forward to a European
system, then after two rings, a click, and silence. So I have no idea
who this person may be, or whether there will be any support available.

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Bill
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"Notice that while no one condemns a buyer wanting more for his money,
not so a seller wanting more for his goods. He's greedy and just out to
make a buck." -- Wayne Dunn

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Warrick Wilson
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: scrolling and crawling Reply with quote

"William Meyer" <wmeyerNO (AT) SPAMsbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
On 11/22/04, Warrick Wilson said:

For what it's worth, I thought the terms were the other way around:
"crawl" is horizontal, "scroll" is vertical. Doesn't help that you
can find sites with "horizontal scrollers" and "vertical scrollers".

So did I, but I changed my usage to conform to what appears to be
conventional in Delphi circles.

e.g. CNN has a text crawl across the bottom of their broadcast
signal, but credits for a show are scrolled up the screen.

Yup, but I would also mention that "roll", "scroll", and "crawl" are
all applied to variations of these motions, without any self-evident
/correct/ associations.

At any rate, I have found one component that handles the horizontal
motion (albeit for simple text with no variation in attributes within a
string, such as italics, fg and bg colors, etc.), but so far have not
found even that for the vertical variation.


Can you tell me which component that is? I've been trying to do something
similar, to replace a Java applet being used on a web page. I've looked for
a number of options, but like you found, the search terminology makes a huge
difference in your results.

Thanks.



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Roy M Klever
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:48 am    Post subject: Re: scrolling and crawling Reply with quote

Hi Bill,

Have you seen this:

http://www.saturnlaboratories.co.za/credits.php


Kind Regards
Roy Magne Klever

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William Meyer
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: scrolling and crawling Reply with quote

On 11/23/04, Roy M Klever said:

Quote:
Have you seen this:

http://www.saturnlaboratories.co.za/credits.php

Thanks, Roy, I will give it a try. One thing about the things I've
found so far: they're pretty unimaginative, making no provision for
RTF, or any other method of dynamic mods to the text attributes.

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Bill
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"Notice that while no one condemns a buyer wanting more for his money,
not so a seller wanting more for his goods. He's greedy and just out to
make a buck." -- Wayne Dunn

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Anders Isaksson
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: scrolling and crawling Reply with quote

William Meyer wrote:
Quote:
but so far have not found even that for the vertical variation.

The old RxLib has a 'SecretPanel' which can show a background picture and
scroll text either horizontally or vertically. You can see it in the
About-box in my BlockCAD program (see sig.)

I suppose it is included in the JVCL, but don't have that installed so I
can't check it out.

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Anders Isaksson, Sweden
BlockCAD: http://w1.161.telia.com/~u16122508/proglego.htm
Gallery: http://w1.161.telia.com/~u16122508/gallery/index.htm




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