BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Seems RAD C++ has a future Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Lee Grissom Guest Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:46 pm    Post subject: Seems RAD C++ has a future http://www.itwriting.com/borlandsdo3.php Dale: Eventually you're going to see C++Builder being part of Delphi, you're going to see the ability to have more RAD lookalike stuff in JBuilder, and eventually you're going to have a development environment that will target whatever language you want. That's the wave of the future. -- Lee Back to top Randall Parker Guest Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:59 am    Post subject: Re: Seems RAD C++ has a future He says BCB is going to become part of Delphi. But it could be in one year or three years. Lee Grissom wrote: Quote: http://www.itwriting.com/borlandsdo3.php Dale: Eventually you're going to see C++Builder being part of Delphi, you're going to see the ability to have more RAD lookalike stuff in JBuilder, and eventually you're going to have a development environment that will target whatever language you want. That's the wave of the future. -- Lee Back to top Dennis Jones Guest Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:44 am    Post subject: Re: Seems RAD C++ has a future Yeah, but did you notice that the question to which Dale was replying referred specifically to C++BuilderX, and not C++Builder? It seems to me that Dale may have mis-spoke. The interviewer also intermingled C++Builder and C++BuilderX in his next question. I can't tell if that was intentional by both of them, or if neither one knows the difference between C++Builder and C++BuilderX! - Dennis "Randall Parker" <STOPtechiepundit (AT) EVILfuturePOXpunditSPAM (DOT) com> wrote in message news:41707fe7$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: He says BCB is going to become part of Delphi. But it could be in one year or three years. Lee Grissom wrote: http://www.itwriting.com/borlandsdo3.php Dale: Eventually you're going to see C++Builder being part of Delphi, you're going to see the ability to have more RAD lookalike stuff in JBuilder, and eventually you're going to have a development environment that will target whatever language you want. That's the wave of the future. -- Lee Back to top Duane Hebert Guest Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: Seems RAD C++ has a future "Dennis Jones" <nospam (AT) bogus (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Yeah, but did you notice that the question to which Dale was replying referred specifically to C++BuilderX, and not C++Builder? It seems to me that Dale may have mis-spoke. The interviewer also intermingled C++Builder and C++BuilderX in his next question. I can't tell if that was intentional by both of them, or if neither one knows the difference between C++Builder and C++BuilderX! He was asked about a cross-platform offering. He replied that C++ Builder would be bundled with Delphi. I got the impression that his idea of cross-platform was multiple compilers. I still don't have any idea what they're planning for CBX nor, as you say, when any new version of BCB will be released. The interviewer asked specifically about CBX with no GUI tool and I didn't see a reply to that. Did I miss something? Back to top Saulo I. Regis Guest Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Seems RAD C++ has a future "Duane Hebert" <spoo (AT) flarn2 (DOT) com> escreveu na mensagem news:4170f2de$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: He was asked about a cross-platform offering. He replied that C++ Builder would be bundled with Delphi. I got the impression that his idea of cross-platform was multiple compilers. I still don't have any idea what they're planning for CBX nor, as you say, when any new version of BCB will be released. The interviewer asked specifically about CBX with no GUI tool and I didn't see a reply to that. Did I miss something? Yes. My reading was the same as yours! No direct answers were given only vague notions of "eventual" possibilities! I understood that Borland will be targeting to put all languages under the same RAD umbrella and that PrimeTime is most like to be part of that umbrella as the IDE environment. So PrimeTime will be fully compiler agnostic AND FRAMEWORK agnostic! The last question to be answered is which FRAMEWORK will be the next one to be supported by PrimeTime after .NET and J2EE? Or only these two frameworks will be supported? Saulo Back to top Dennis Jones Guest Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Seems RAD C++ has a future "Duane Hebert" <spoo (AT) flarn2 (DOT) com> wrote Quote: The interviewer asked specifically about CBX with no GUI tool and I didn't see a reply to that. Did I miss something? Nope. Dale is just as good at answering _a_ question without answering _the_ question as any politician _I've_ seen! - Dennis Back to top jkossek@mindspring.com Guest Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Seems RAD C++ has a future Exactly no direct and clear answers. Time to switch to some other tools (QT and Tolltech is my selection) Back to top Marcelo R. Lopez, Jr. Guest Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Seems RAD C++ has a future Dennis Jones wrote: Quote: "Duane Hebert" <spoo (AT) flarn2 (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4170f2de$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... The interviewer asked specifically about CBX with no GUI tool and I didn't see a reply to that. Did I miss something? Nope. Dale is just as good at answering _a_ question without answering _the_ question as any politician _I've_ seen! - Dennis Since when have you heard a CEO of ANY company SPECIFICALLY answering ANY question put to them directly ? Unless it was with their Legal Counsel sitting right next to them. Marcelo Back to top Duane Hebert Guest Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Seems RAD C++ has a future "Marcelo R. Lopez, Jr." <mlopez (AT) voicerite (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Since when have you heard a CEO of ANY company SPECIFICALLY answering ANY question put to them directly ? Unless it was with their Legal Counsel sitting right next to them. Can't think of an example. So why put any weight in these interviews? Back to top Andrue Cope [TeamB] Guest Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: Seems RAD C++ has a future Dennis Jones wrote: Quote: Yeah, but did you notice that the question to which Dale was replying referred specifically to C++BuilderX, and not C++Builder? This seems to happen an awful lot :) -- Andrue Cope [TeamB] [Bicester, Uk] http://info.borland.com/newsgroups/guide.html Back to top Tim Anderson Guest Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:48 am    Post subject: Re: Seems RAD C++ has a future "Dennis Jones" <nospam (AT) bogus (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Yeah, but did you notice that the question to which Dale was replying referred specifically to C++BuilderX, and not C++Builder? It seems to me that Dale may have mis-spoke. The interviewer also intermingled C++Builder and C++BuilderX in his next question. I can't tell if that was intentional by both of them, or if neither one knows the difference between C++Builder and C++BuilderX! Dennis, I am fully aware of the differences. There is an ambiguity though if someone speaks about "C++Builder". They may mean VCL C++Builder, or they may mean C++BuilderX, treating the X as a version number which can be dropped. After all, we are not talking here about C++Builder *or* C++BuilderX. We are talking about "C++Builder Next", whatever that might be. Or Next+1, or whatever. Tim ..NET pros and cons http://www.itwriting.com/phorum/list.php?f=6 Back to top mr_organic Guest Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Seems RAD C++ has a future "Lee Grissom" <Lee.Grissom (AT) REMOVETHISquest (DOT) com> wrote in news:41704529$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com: Quote: http://www.itwriting.com/borlandsdo3.php Dale: Eventually you're going to see C++Builder being part of Delphi, you're going to see the ability to have more RAD lookalike stuff in JBuilder, and eventually you're going to have a development environment that will target whatever language you want. That's the wave of the future. -- Lee Eventually, we're all dead. mr_organic Back to top Saulo I. Regis Guest Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Seems RAD C++ has a future "Duane Hebert" <spoo (AT) flarn2 (DOT) com> escreveu na mensagem news:4170f2de$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: He was asked about a cross-platform offering. He replied that C++ Builder would be bundled with Delphi. I got the impression that his idea of cross-platform was multiple compilers. I still don't have any idea what they're planning for CBX nor, as you say, when any new version of BCB will be released. The interviewer asked specifically about CBX with no GUI tool and I didn't see a reply to that. Did I miss something? Another tricky statement that Dale adopted and repeats ad infinitum is ' Dale: And you mentioned Kylix. I'm still waiting for a Kylix developer to say, "I want to buy that." ' the true demand for Kylix would be from Windows developers wanting to reach Linux to "run" theirs apps on that OS. If Kylix was a failure it has all to do with Borland abandoning it in the middle of the way! The interviewer lost a great opportunity to ask Dale what are the future plans of Borland regarding Linux desktop development and the generation of a proprietary cross-platform framework! That would be interesting! Saulo Back to top Marcelo R. Lopez, Jr. Guest Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Seems RAD C++ has a future Duane Hebert wrote: Quote: "Marcelo R. Lopez, Jr." <mlopez (AT) voicerite (DOT) com> wrote Since when have you heard a CEO of ANY company SPECIFICALLY answering ANY question put to them directly ? Unless it was with their Legal Counsel sitting right next to them. Can't think of an example. So why put any weight in these interviews? It's not a matter of putting weight on the interviews themselves, but rather pointing out the incongruities between what they say to the developers in their Conferences, and what they say to the "Tech" public at large. Pale face speaks with forked tongue, essentially. Back to top Tim Anderson Guest Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:37 am    Post subject: Re: Seems RAD C++ has a future "Saulo I. Regis" <saulo (AT) password (DOT) info> wrote Quote: "Duane Hebert" <spoo (AT) flarn2 (DOT) com> escreveu na mensagem news:4170f2de$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... The interviewer lost a great opportunity to ask Dale what are the future plans of Borland regarding Linux desktop development and the generation of a proprietary cross-platform framework! That would be interesting! I asked: "So leaving aside Kylix, what are you offering customers who want cross-platform apps for Windows and Linux? You've got C++BuilderX but it's not a RAD tool." Close to what you wanted to ask? You'll note from the replies that Borland's stated intention (here at least) is to have an IDE, with RAD designers, that will target multiple languages and platforms. This is presented as a long-term goal, not as a specific product plan. I couldn't get anything more detailed. 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