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Alvaro GP
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:55 am    Post subject: Silly bug Reply with quote




Hi everyone. Are you bored? Try this:

- Close any opened projects in Delphi.
- Go to menu Component -> Install Packages...
- Uncheck "Borland Interbase Event Alerter Component"
- Look at Default checkbox, it is automatically checked, ok?
- Click OK

- Create a New Application
- Go to the Project Manager. Left-click "ProjectGroup1" and select "Add New
Project...". Select "Package". Click OK.

Now you have a project group composed of a Project and a Package, right?
Ok, go to menu Component -> Install Packages...
ALEHOP! Magically, that package called "Borland Interbase Event Alerter" is
checked again. It seems that the only way of getting rid of this package is
by directly removing it.

Not a big problem, since it is a little package, but it is annoying anyway.
And it only happens in Delphi 7 (no problem with Delphi 5 nor Delphi 6).

Bugs are bad, but IMHO the lack of new features is equally bad. Delphi32
used to be an actively worked project, until Delphi 6 (because Delphi 6 and
Delphi 7 are the same thing). Borland seems determined to dump its resources
on a technology that only interests to ASP.NET developers. What
"revolutionary" new features await to us the Win32 developers in Delphi 9?
Perhaps an Object Inspector with "XP Style"? If you are continuing this path
you should better donate Delphi 7 to the Open Source, and I'm sure that it
would be much more actively worked than you are doing now.


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danny heijl
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:29 am    Post subject: Re: Silly bug Reply with quote



Alvaro GP wrote:

Quote:
... What
"revolutionary" new features await to us the Win32 developers in Delphi 9?
Perhaps an Object Inspector with "XP Style"? If you are continuing this path
you should better donate Delphi 7 to the Open Source, and I'm sure that it
would be much more actively worked than you are doing now.

I don't think that they are continuing this path. From what I've heard
D9 will have a lot of *really* exciting stuff to offer for Win32
development.

Danny
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Tim Anderson
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:30 am    Post subject: Re: Silly bug Reply with quote



"Ingvar Nilsen" <telcontr (AT) online-not-this-part- (DOT) no> wrote

Quote:
Alvaro GP wrote:
Bugs are bad, but IMHO the lack of new features is equally bad.
Delphi32 used to be an actively worked project, until Delphi 6
(because Delphi 6 and Delphi 7 are the same thing)

Suppose you mean "until Delphi 7".

No, I take it that he is dismissing the changes in D7 as cosmetic.

Tim

Does anyone use .NET?
http://www.itwriting.com/blog/?postid=74



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Tim Anderson
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Silly bug Reply with quote

"Ingvar Nilsen" <telcontr (AT) online-not-this-part- (DOT) no> wrote

Quote:
Tim Anderson wrote:

Yes, and that was what I meant: Including D6 and until D7.
"I had a fine trip until I reached Paris" means all was fine in Rome,
Hamburg, Oslo, Stockholm - but not in Paris.

But in your example the *journey* to Paris was OK. So Delphi was an
"actively worked project" until the release of D6; by that logic, D6 could
still be a worthwhile release :-)

Tim

Does anyone use .NET?
http://www.itwriting.com/blog/?postid=74




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Alan Garny
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Silly bug Reply with quote

"Ingvar Nilsen" <telcontr (AT) online-not-this-part- (DOT) no> wrote

Quote:
Tim Anderson wrote:
Suppose you mean "until Delphi 7".

No, I take it that he is dismissing the changes in D7 as cosmetic.

Yes, and that was what I meant: Including D6 and until D7.
"I had a fine trip until I reached Paris" means all was fine in Rome,
Hamburg, Oslo, Stockholm - but not in Paris.

What happened in Paris? A strike? Again? :)

Alan.



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Ingvar Nilsen
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Silly bug Reply with quote

Alvaro GP wrote:
Quote:
Bugs are bad, but IMHO the lack of new features is equally bad.
Delphi32 used to be an actively worked project, until Delphi 6
(because Delphi 6 and Delphi 7 are the same thing)

Suppose you mean "until Delphi 7".

--
Ingvar Nilsen


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Michael Fritz
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Silly bug Reply with quote

"danny heijl" wrote in message <news:412c7822 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com>:

Quote:
I don't think that they are continuing this path. From what I've heard
D9 will have a lot of *really* exciting stuff to offer for Win32
development.
....and I will have to pay again plenty of money just to get a bug fixed D7

version in the next release, eh?
If D9 does not offer many improvements and new additions (I'm not talking
about any web components and stuff like this I'm currently not using) I
won't buy any update or even full version again.

--
cu,
Michael

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Ingvar Nilsen
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Silly bug Reply with quote

Tim Anderson wrote:
Quote:
Suppose you mean "until Delphi 7".

No, I take it that he is dismissing the changes in D7 as cosmetic.

Yes, and that was what I meant: Including D6 and until D7.
"I had a fine trip until I reached Paris" means all was fine in Rome,
Hamburg, Oslo, Stockholm - but not in Paris.

--
Ingvar Nilsen


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Ingvar Nilsen
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Silly bug Reply with quote

Tim Anderson wrote:
Quote:
But in your example the *journey* to Paris was OK. So Delphi was an
"actively worked project" until the release of D6; by that logic, D6
could still be a worthwhile release Smile

You beat me ;-)

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Ingvar Nilsen


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Dennis Landi
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Silly bug Reply with quote


"Alan Garny" <someone (AT) somewhere (DOT) com> wrote in message

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What happened in Paris?

Paris Hilton?



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Eric Grange
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Silly bug Reply with quote

Quote:
From what I've heard D9 will have a lot of *really* exciting
stuff to offer for Win32 development.

Whatever it is, it isn't strongly advertized, one is
hard-pressed to find references to Win32 improvements
amongst the ocean of DotNet marketing references...

Eric

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David Clegg
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:26 am    Post subject: Re: Silly bug Reply with quote

Eric Grange wrote:

Quote:
one is
hard-pressed to find references to Win32 improvements

Not if one reads the Borland Blogs:

New for loop syntax
http://homepages.borland.com/dthorpe/blog/delphi/2004_08_01_archive.php#
109211211041479238
or
http://tinyurl.com/5fkyf

Refactoring, Unit Testing and Kitchen Sink
http://homepages.borland.com/mswindell/2004/08/diamondback-rumors.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/48g2q

I'm sure there are other nuggets as well, but its lunchtime and I'm
hungry. Mmm....nuggets!

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Tom Reiertsen
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:39 am    Post subject: Re: Silly bug Reply with quote

"David Clegg" <dclegg (AT) gmail (DOT) com> skrev i melding
news:xn0dmh60w85gdz006 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com...
Quote:

Refactoring, Unit Testing and Kitchen Sink
http://homepages.borland.com/mswindell/2004/08/diamondback-rumors.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/48g2q


But won't Unit Testing be based on NUnit and not work with Win32? Or am I
way off here?

Tom



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Phil Shrimpton
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: Silly bug Reply with quote

Tom Reiertsen wrote:

Quote:
But won't Unit Testing be based on NUnit and not work with Win32? Or
am I way off here?

Unless they are going to waste time rolling their own new testing
framework, I guess they will use NUnit for the .Net stuff, and DUnit
for Win32

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Phil

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Eric Grange
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: Silly bug Reply with quote

All of that isn't easily accessible to the general public...
Where are the mention in the advertisements I received?
Where are the references in BDN or Borland's Delphi pages?

Eric
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