BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Some thoughts required...          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Alexander Adam Guest Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:56 pm    Post subject: Some thoughts required... hi, How would you go if you'd have to build a modular application just like e.g. Eclipse for Java in Delphi? Means registering different Editors, different menus and all that crap, should also be possible to write modules in C++, manage their versions etc.. any thoughts? thanks, Alex Back to top Jarle Stabell Guest Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts required... Alexander Adam wrote: Quote: How would you go if you'd have to build a modular application just like e.g. Eclipse for Java in Delphi? Means registering different Editors, different menus and all that crap, should also be possible to write modules in C++, manage their versions etc.. any thoughts? You have to do everything with interfaces (or pure abstract classes). Use Widestrings everywhere, stdcall calling convention etc. Study addin-architectures in general, Borland's ToolsAPI, Eclipse and others. Be prepared for lots of work. Eclipse has world class OO gurus working on it as their day jobs. Since Delphi's UI components are not based on interfaces, you have to wrap/encapsulate everything you want addins to access, or write your own UI components and make them interface based. Cheers, Jarle Back to top Andrew Guest Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts required... Alexander Adam wrote: Quote: hi, How would you go if you'd have to build a modular application just like e.g. Eclipse for Java in Delphi? Means registering different Editors, different menus and all that crap, should also be possible to write modules in C++, manage their versions etc.. any thoughts? thanks, Alex Delphi BPLs are a VERY powerful structure for building plug-in type applications. However, the Borland docs don't spend much time on this use. Buy The Delphi Magazine back issue CD for some great examples. I built a report generator where each report was a bpl. It would load in the logic for formatting the report AFTER it parsed the raw data file to see what kind of report it was. As for C++, I believe C++ Builder supports BPLs as well. Cheers, Andrew Back to top Alexander Adam Guest Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:35 am    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts required... hi, Quote: Delphi BPLs are a VERY powerful structure for building plug-in type applications. However, the Borland docs don't spend much time on this use. Buy The Delphi Magazine back issue CD for some great examples. I built a report generator where each report was a bpl. It would load in the logic for formatting the report AFTER it parsed the raw data file to see what kind of report it was. I know, we did that already but ran into too much problems. We want a more "standartized" way of doing things here... thanks, Alex Back to top Alexander Adam Guest Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:36 am    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts required... hi, Quote: Be prepared for lots of work. Eclipse has world class OO gurus working on it as their day jobs. Since Delphi's UI components are not based on interfaces, you have to wrap/encapsulate everything you want addins to access, or write your own UI components and make them interface based. So how would I go from there? I want e.g. my modules to have their own menu that becomes the main menu when the editor gets active, access parents events and properties etc.. Oh, and are there any samples of custom components supporting interfaces? thanks, alex Back to top Dennis Landi Guest Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts required... "Alexander Adam" <nospam (AT) please (DOT) com> wrote in message Quote: any thoughts? "My stomach's growling" "I'm in the mood for popcorn" -d Back to top Alexander Adam Guest Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:32 am    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts required... Quote: any thoughts? "My stomach's growling" "I'm in the mood for popcorn" erm... I thought on some specific thoughts on the subject but nevermind, popcorn is a good idea <g> Back to top Dennis Landi Guest Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:07 am    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts required... "Alexander Adam" <nospam (AT) please (DOT) com> wrote Quote: any thoughts? "My stomach's growling" "I'm in the mood for popcorn" erm... I thought on some specific thoughts on the subject but nevermind, popcorn is a good idea now, you know why I haven't started my own blog.... Back to top Ryan Mills Guest Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts required... Quote: So how would I go from there? I want e.g. my modules to have their own menu that becomes the main menu when the editor gets active, access parents events and properties etc.. Oh, and are there any samples of custom components supporting interfaces? I wrote a component that allowed me to generate a "menu" in my plugin. When my plugin is loaded I ask for its "menu" structure and then based on what it hands back the menu gets generated from that. When the plugin is unloaded the same thing happens but instead of adding I remove all menu items tied to that plugin. All of my plugins are able to be dynamically loaded and unloaded, they support loading of menus and context menus, UI pages and other stuff. The whole thing workes through a set of interfaces and runtime BPLs. I've taken a long time, and a lot of work, to get my plugin system to this point. It's been an exercise in teaching myself just that. I would suggest that you either look at an already existing plugin system (UIL, JVCL, TMS, etc) or expect to spend some time learning the ropes on how to create one from scratch. HTH, Ryan. 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