BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Spy tool          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Internet Winsock View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Urs Guest Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 1:31 am    Post subject: Spy tool Hello I saw in the television that there are existing spy tools to examine the internet data transfer of remote computers. They showed that it is possible to spy out the PIN code when the customer is making e-banking. Where can I find such a tool? It would interest me. Thanks Urs Back to top Paul Nicholls Guest Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 2:11 am    Post subject: Re: Spy tool I'd be surprised if anyone gave you that info! Talk about dangerous! "Urs" <urswagner (AT) bluemail (DOT) ch> wrote Quote: Hello I saw in the television that there are existing spy tools to examine the internet data transfer of remote computers. They showed that it is possible to spy out the PIN code when the customer is making e-banking. Where can I find such a tool? It would interest me. Thanks Urs Back to top Remy Lebeau (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 2:28 am    Post subject: Re: Spy tool "Urs" <urswagner (AT) bluemail (DOT) ch> wrote Quote: I saw in the television that there are existing spy tools to examine the internet data transfer of remote computers. Are you the kind of person who believes everything they see/hear on TV? Quote: They showed that it is possible to spy out the PIN code when the customer is making e-banking. It is not possible to "spy" on connections, unless the spy is sitting in the middle of the connection in the first place. In other words, the end client connects to the spy, and then the spy connects to the destination server on the client's behalf. Thus, the spy is acting as a "proxy" of sorts between the two, routing traffic from one connection to the other. But if the client connects directly to the destination server, there is no way to "inject" a spy into the existing connection. Gambit Back to top Muzzy Guest Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: Spy tool Quote: I saw in the television that there are existing spy tools to examine the internet data transfer of remote computers. They showed that it is possible to spy out the PIN code when the customer is making e-banking. Where can I find such a tool? It would interest me. I saw on the television that a hacker cracked a nuclear power plant using MS Word and VBA. Where can I find such a tool? P.S. I beleive it was "The Core", widescreen version... Most stupid movie i've ever seen... Back to top Urs Guest Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Spy tool They install a trojan virus on the PC. This program sends then the information back to the producer. He puts the information into a database. Is there existing an Delphi programmed trojan detection tool? Remy Lebeau (TeamB) wrote: Quote: "Urs" <urswagner (AT) bluemail (DOT) ch> wrote in message news:3fdd0f9c (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... I saw in the television that there are existing spy tools to examine the internet data transfer of remote computers. Are you the kind of person who believes everything they see/hear on TV? They showed that it is possible to spy out the PIN code when the customer is making e-banking. It is not possible to "spy" on connections, unless the spy is sitting in the middle of the connection in the first place. In other words, the end client connects to the spy, and then the spy connects to the destination server on the client's behalf. Thus, the spy is acting as a "proxy" of sorts between the two, routing traffic from one connection to the other. But if the client connects directly to the destination server, there is no way to "inject" a spy into the existing connection. Gambit Back to top Remy Lebeau (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Spy tool "Urs" <urswagner (AT) bluemail (DOT) ch> wrote Quote: They install a trojan virus on the PC. Well, that is not the same thing you described earlier. Quote: This program sends then the information back to the producer. That is possible, assuming the trojan hooked into the socket stack directly so that it can intercept all local traffic going to or from the machine that it is installed on. Quote: Is there existing an Delphi programmed trojan detection tool? There are plenty of trojan detection tools available. I do not know if they are written in Delphi specifically, though. Why should that matter, though? Or are you trying to write your own detection tool from scratch yourself? If so, there are no VCL-based detection components that I am aware of, if that is what you are actually asking for. Gambit Back to top Anton Izrailtyanko Guest Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Spy tool Hello, Urs! You wrote on Mon, 15 Dec 2003 02:31:59 +0100: In Holywood Studios' films I saw that all computers in the world are oragnized in a network and you can connect to any computer, even if the one is powered off ) And judging by the mentioned above films all cool hackers are working in the unknowen OS very similar to DOS so forget 'bout Delphi. And be careful, as I remember, the computer while hacked may explode, and destroy all the nearby cities and lead to the world crisis )) Good luck. With best regards, Anton Izrailtyanko. E-mail: [email]stalker780 (AT) yandex (DOT) ru[/email] Back to top Urs Guest Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Spy tool Hello Anton Yes I was to less precise. I have forgotten to write that they used a trojan program to spy the out the customer. This program sends information back to the trojan installer. Trojan programs are running on NT. Why also not programmed with Delphi? Also in these films the most bad guys are coming often from the east. Are You such an expert Anton? It is only a joke. More seriously. I have so many virus attacks that I think it is necessary to inform me better. Urs Anton Izrailtyanko wrote: Quote: Hello, Urs! You wrote on Mon, 15 Dec 2003 02:31:59 +0100: In Holywood Studios' films I saw that all computers in the world are oragnized in a network and you can connect to any computer, even if the one is powered off ) And judging by the mentioned above films all cool hackers are working in the unknowen OS very similar to DOS so forget 'bout Delphi. And be careful, as I remember, the computer while hacked may explode, and destroy all the nearby cities and lead to the world crisis )) Good luck. With best regards, Anton Izrailtyanko. E-mail: [email]stalker780 (AT) yandex (DOT) ru[/email] Back to top Richard Grossman Guest Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Spy tool Muzzy wrote: Quote: I saw on the television that a hacker cracked a nuclear power plant using MS Word and VBA. Where can I find such a tool? <g> I saw that you can infect a completly unknown computing technology by typing, "upload virus" on your own computer ("Independence Day"). Another approach is to ask the computer a question it cannot answer, after which it will start to shake and emit smoke ("War Games"). Well, these tips should be enough to get anyone started... on their next screenplay... 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