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Gbenga Abimbola
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 Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:13 pm Post subject: Stop Calling Delphi "Object Pascal" |
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I suggest that everyone stop calling Delphi Object Pascal since
it negates the power of the language. Moreover, I have suggested
in the past that Delphi be re-architected to use the curly
braces, since this style is most appealing to C, C++, Java, C#,
even Flash programmers.
Here is how the future statement would look like:
if (x = 5) {
y := 10;
z := 20;
}
if (x = y)
y := z;
With the above syntax, Pascal's association with Delphi will
be forgotten, once and for all. Thus bringing Delphi to the
league of sexy languages like C, Java and C#. Even Delphi is
elegant, but its beauty is masked by begin-end clauses. But
wait, isn't beauty is in the eyes of the beholder? Perhaps
not every time.
Like someone said in this forum, changing Delphi to join the
league of C-like structure may sound ridiculous, but to me,
this is the simplest way to shed the "Pascal" stigma.
Then what about other Delphi programs written with
the begin-end clauses? Simple: Re-write them with the new
syntax or continue to modify them with Delphi version that
was used to write them. Besides, in re-writing your programs,
you would discover a lot of flaws that were elusive in the
first place.
Long Live Delphi!
Gbenga
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Stop Calling Delphi "Object Pascal" |
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"Gbenga Abimbola" <gabimbola (AT) columbus (DOT) gov> writes:
| Quote: | it negates the power of the language. Moreover, I have suggested
in the past that Delphi be re-architected to use the curly
braces, since this style is most appealing to C, C++, Java, C#,
even Flash programmers.
Here is how the future statement would look like:
if (x = 5) {
y := 10;
z := 20;
}
if (x = y)
y := z;
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Has April 1 come around again ?
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Seek simplicity and mistrust it.
Alfred Whitehead
A witty saying proves nothing.
Voltaire
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Dave Nottage [TeamB]
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: Stop Calling Delphi "Object Pascal" |
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Gbenga Abimbola wrote:
| Quote: | I suggest that everyone stop calling Delphi Object Pascal since
it negates the power of the language.
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You mean as far as marketing "power"?..
| Quote: | Moreover, I have suggested
in the past that Delphi be re-architected to use the curly
braces, since this style is most appealing to C, C++, Java, C#,
even Flash programmers.
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...I guess you really do mean marketing power.
Tee hee.
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Dave Nottage [TeamB]
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Bob Swart
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Stop Calling Delphi "Object Pascal" |
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Hi Gbenga Abimbola,
| Quote: | Moreover, I have suggested in the past that Delphi be re-architected
to use the curly braces, since this style is most appealing to C, C++,
Java, C#, even Flash programmers.
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Feel free to use the C# personality of Delphi 2005... The power of
Delphi with the curly braces of C[whatever] ;-)
Groetjes,
Bob Swart (aka Dr.Bob - www.DrBob42.com)
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Bob Swart Training & Consultancy (eBob42) - Borland Technology Partner
Delphi 2005 self-study training books: http://www.drbob42.com/training
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Francois Malan
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Stop Calling Delphi "Object Pascal" |
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Gbenga Abimbola wrote:
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Then what about other Delphi programs written with
the begin-end clauses? Simple: Re-write them with the new
syntax or continue to modify them with Delphi version that
was used to write them. Besides, in re-writing your programs,
you would discover a lot of flaws that were elusive in the
first place.
Long Live Delphi!
Gbenga
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Wow..... isn't... uhhm... you see.... The thing is.... On the other
hand.....
Oh well, I am left speechless for the moment, will try to reply a
little later.
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Francois Malan
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Stop Calling Delphi "Object Pascal" |
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Francois Malan wrote:
| Quote: | Gbenga Abimbola wrote:
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Then what about other Delphi programs written with
the begin-end clauses? Simple: Re-write them with the new
syntax or continue to modify them with Delphi version that
was used to write them. Besides, in re-writing your programs,
you would discover a lot of flaws that were elusive in the
first place.
Long Live Delphi!
Gbenga
Wow..... isn't... uhhm... you see.... The thing is.... On the other
hand.....
Oh well, I am left speechless for the moment, will try to reply a
little later.
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Much later, when I am drunk.
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Chris Morgan
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: Stop Calling Delphi "Object Pascal" |
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Huh?
Cheers,
Chris
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Anders Isaksson
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Kristofer Skaug
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: Stop Calling Delphi "Object Pascal" |
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Francois Malan wrote:
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Much later, when I am drunk.
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Get some strong liquor, we can't afford to wait around here...
It *is* already Friday afternoon...
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Kristofer
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Francois Malan
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Stop Calling Delphi "Object Pascal" |
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Kristofer Skaug wrote:
| Quote: | Francois Malan wrote:
Much later, when I am drunk.
Get some strong liquor, we can't afford to wait around here...
It is already Friday afternoon...
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Right. Some Green Island RUM. After the second bottle, I will install
D5 and start rewriting all my old Applications. :)
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Kristofer Skaug
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Stop Calling Delphi "Object Pascal" |
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Gbenga Abimbola wrote:
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Here is how the future statement would look like:
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In many font types and screen resolutions it is hopeless to tell curly
braces apart from normal brackets - that is, if you can see them at all.
It is the single biggest curse of the C-family of languages, and about as
'sexy' as a heap of toenail clippings!
..... imho.
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Kristofer
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Uffe Kousgaard
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Stop Calling Delphi |
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| Quote: | Interesting points would be adding a multi pass compiler ...
Why would you care how many passes the compiler makes through your
source code?
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Multi is sexy - single is not sexy :-)
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Arnie
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Stop Calling Delphi "Object Pascal" |
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"Gbenga Abimbola" <gabimbola (AT) columbus (DOT) gov> wrote
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I suggest that everyone stop calling Delphi Object Pascal since
it negates the power of the language. Moreover, I have
suggested
in the past that Delphi be re-architected to use the curly
braces, since this style is most appealing to C, C++, Java, C#,
even Flash programmers.
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That's really funny. I have been a C/C++ programmer for more
years than I care to remember, but did use Delphi 1.0 at one
point.
Long ago we hired a guy who was a Delphi programmer and loved it,
naturally. He hated all those {} in C. So he set out to write a
set of macros for himself. For example:
#define BEGIN {
Of course, there was a lot more to it than that. Unfortunately,
he didn't tell anyone he was doing it. It didn't work out too
well once someone saw his code.
So, if I'm a C++'er, what am I doing here? The BCB non-tech
group is dead as a doornail. And, I do pick up some useful
non-Delphi info besides.
- Arnie
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Kristofer Skaug
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Stop Calling Delphi "Object Pascal" |
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Francois Malan wrote:
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Right. Some Green Island RUM. After the second bottle, I will install
D5 and start rewriting all my old Applications. 
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"burp, wa-happund to da-Dee-Ewnitt tesht?
lookie cute pink blotch, mushbe unel-uphant-hic!
oh girly curlsh with bracious, you make
ShysUtilsh.ShecsPerDay look verr-hic int-ressting..."
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Kristofer
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Robert Giesecke
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: Stop Calling Delphi |
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Sorry, that doesn't make _any_ sense to me.
I'm by no means one of the usual Delphi advocates, but that is way to much
to bear. *ROFL* *almost dead*
Curly braces or begin/end or soooo uninteresting. They won't make a
difference in why you'd choose a language.
Interesting points would be adding a multi pass compiler and dump
constructors looking like class methods , allow inline variable
declaration, etc.
But then it wouldn't be Delphi any more (OK, I'd love a multipass compiler
 ), it would be Chrome.
That's the same thing I can't understand about FreePascal. IMO, it's
pointless to copy another language.
It's even more pointless to cut down a language to be somewhat "apealing"
to someone.
--- posted by geoForum on http://delphi.newswhat.com
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