BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Strange D2005 things... Goto page 1, 2  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Mario A. Montoya (mamcx) Guest Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:47 pm    Post subject: Strange D2005 things... I'm playing with the new D2005. I found some extrange things. - Compilation errors are marked always a line above real line of problem. That cause me troubles because sometimes the above line look more prone error but the next look easy but is the real cause of the error. Only discover it because when you see that "begin" is the line of error....yeah, riiiiight... - Sync edit not work at all. I mark a block of code, then change a var and except the original var, the rest are changed a letter off (ie: Original var: Example. Change to TExample, rest are changed to ETxample). In my effort in evaluate this beast, i'm converting a C# project to Delphi.NET. I do this because i must work with .NET and Delphi at time, so what can be best than Delphi2005? I convert it with BabelCode (i wrote a batch utility that transform a whole C# project to Delphi.NET, more or less). That was ok. Now, i nedd do the manual changes, like put the "T" after class names, convert private fields to real case and put F (that its, follow the Delphi convention and not the absurd "i'm a case sensitive, hard to read, C" convention). I imagine that the refactoring of Delphi 2005 can be handy in this, and because the project is large i think is a good enough test... I don't figure how report it to QC, i never do that (always the QC client fail before)...... Back to top Liz Guest Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange D2005 things... Mario A. Montoya (mamcx) wrote: Quote: - Compilation errors are marked always a line above real line of problem. That cause me troubles because sometimes the above line look more prone error but the next look easy but is the real cause of the error. Only discover it because when you see that "begin" is the line of error....yeah, riiiiight... Not seen that one yet. Quote: - Sync edit not work at all. I mark a block of code, then change a var and except the original var, the rest are changed a letter off (ie: Original var: Example. Change to TExample, rest are changed to ETxample). Havent tried sync edit yet.. thats next on my list to play with. Quote: In my effort in evaluate this beast, i'm converting a C# project to Delphi.NET. I do this because i must work with .NET and Delphi at time, so what can be best than Delphi2005? I convert it with BabelCode (i wrote a batch utility that transform a whole C# project to Delphi.NET, more or less). That was ok. Now, i nedd do the manual changes, like put the "T" after class names, convert private fields to real case and put F (that its, follow the Delphi convention and not the absurd "i'm a case sensitive, hard to read, C" convention). I imagine that the refactoring of Delphi 2005 can be handy in this, and because the project is large i think is a good enough test... You dont *need* to follow the conventions, they are only conventions, go with "working" first, then change, no point if it doesnt work possibly breaking it more. Quote: I don't figure how report it to QC, i never do that (always the QC client fail before)...... Make an example project that recreates the issue, explain step by step what to do, if necessary add screen prints showing what you see. Back to top Bryce K. Nielsen Guest Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange D2005 things... Quote: - Compilation errors are marked always a line above real line of problem. That cause me troubles because sometimes the above line look more prone error but the next look easy but is the real cause of the error. Only discover it because when you see that "begin" is the line of error....yeah, riiiiight... I've actually seen this one in VS.NET. Do you only experience this in Delphi for .NET projects, or in Win32 ones as well? -BKN Back to top Nick Hodges [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange D2005 things... Mario A. Montoya (mamcx) wrote: Quote: - Compilation errors are marked always a line above real line of problem. This is caused by CR/LF problems in your code. Try pasting all the code into Notepad, and then copy/pasting it back into your editor. Quote: - Sync edit not work at all. I mark a block of code, then change a var and except the original var, the rest are changed a letter off (ie: Original var: Example. Change to TExample, rest are changed to ETxample). Maybe related to the above? SyncEdit works perfectly for me. Quote: I imagine that the refactoring of Delphi 2005 can be handy in this, and because the project is large i think is a good enough test... Rename Variable is a great refactoring here. -- Nick Hodges -- TeamB Lemanix Corporation -- http://www.lemanix.com Read my Blog -- http://www.lemanix.com/nick Back to top David Farrell-Garcia Guest Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange D2005 things... Nick Hodges [TeamB] wrote: Quote: This is caused by CR/LF problems in your code. Try pasting all the code into Notepad, and then copy/pasting it back into your editor. I agree with Nick on this one. I have had the same problem when pasting from other sources into my D7 apps as well. Drives you nuts until you figure it out. -- David Farrell-Garcia Whidbey Island Software LLC Posted with XanaNews 1.17.1.2 Back to top Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange D2005 things... Mario A. Montoya (mamcx) wrote: Quote: I'm playing with the new D2005. I found some extrange things. - Compilation errors are marked always a line above real line of problem. That cause me troubles because sometimes the above line look more prone error but the next look easy but is the real cause of the error. Only discover it because when you see that "begin" is the line of error....yeah, riiiiight... Looks as if you have bad line ending in your code. Open it with Notepad and then save it again. Then try again. Or your source file does not correspond with the debug info. Do a full rebuild of source. -- Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] http://rvelthuis.bei.t-online.de "You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." - Al Capone (1899-1947) Back to top Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] Guest Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange D2005 things... Nick Hodges [TeamB] wrote: Quote: Mario A. Montoya (mamcx) wrote: - Compilation errors are marked always a line above real line of problem. This is caused by CR/LF problems in your code. Try pasting all the code into Notepad, and then copy/pasting it back into your editor. Opening and saving with Notepad will do as well. The editor will even notice that the source has changed. -- Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] http://rvelthuis.bei.t-online.de "2 + 2 = 5, for extremely large values of 2." -- unknown Back to top David Clegg Guest Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange D2005 things... Mario A. Montoya (mamcx) wrote: Quote: I convert it with BabelCode (i wrote a batch utility that transform a whole C# project to Delphi.NET, more or less). Not sure if you've seen this, but it's an OTAPI add-in for Delphi 2005 which wraps the BabelCode web service. http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=22678 It allows you to convert C#Builder or VS.NET C# projects, or code snippets. It also has a 'Paste as Delphi' feature, where it attempt to convert the clipboard contents before pasting (leaving the original contents untouched on the clipboard). It simply wraps the web service, with no extra conversion logic, so any errors in the conversion are probably best reported to QualityCentral in the same manner as for the BabelCode web page interface. There is a basic QC interface in the add-in to make this a little easier. And as a last note, if you've downloaded the D2005 examples, you will already have it, although there may be a later version on CodeCentral (you never know your luck <g>). HTH. -- Cheers, David Clegg [email]dclegg (AT) gmail (DOT) com[/email] Vote 1 http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=21489 Now supports Google Groups searching with Dyna-extend(tm) technology! QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. http://qc.borland.com "Note to self. Stop doing anything." - Homer Simpson Back to top Mario A. Montoya (mamcx) Guest Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange D2005 things... Quote: This is caused by CR/LF problems in your code. Try pasting all the code into Notepad, and then copy/pasting it back into your editor. I do that. I note that in Notepad a "extrange" character appear. I think is CR or LF. Unfortunaly that not do the trick ....But doing it with MS Word yes! Thanks for the help. I remember that in my utility i need change #10 to #10#13 (i need load the sourcecode in TStringList and with the result of BabelCode TStringList.Count always return 1, and i need fix the unit name (the web service return the namespace but no the correct unit name), but maybe the order was wrong? If is this, then i can recode the batch converter and fix for the other files... Back to top Mario A. Montoya (mamcx) Guest Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange D2005 things... Yes. In fact, i have this . Is a nice tool, but i want convert a whole C# project (230 files), so i build a batch converter, because do it at hand is not funny. Back to top Liz Guest Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange D2005 things... Mario A. Montoya (mamcx) wrote: Quote: I remember that in my utility i need change #10 to #10#13 (i need load the sourcecode in TStringList and with the result of BabelCode TStringList.Count always return 1, and i need fix the unit name (the web service return the namespace but no the correct unit name), but maybe the order was wrong? If is this, then i can recode the batch converter and fix for the other files... changing #10 to #10#13 can be done simply with a replace command It depends a lot on what you're doing. unix gives lines with #10, macs with #13 and dos is #13#10 I believe Back to top David Clegg Guest Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange D2005 things... Mario A. Montoya (mamcx) wrote: Quote: but i want convert a whole C# project (230 files) It should convert a whole project, although I've never tested it on one that size. -- Cheers, David Clegg [email]dclegg (AT) gmail (DOT) com[/email] Vote 1 http://cc.borland.com/codecentral/ccweb.exe/listing?id=21489 Now supports Google Groups searching with Dyna-extend(tm) technology! QualityCentral. The best way to bug Borland about bugs. http://qc.borland.com "Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson Back to top Kevin Guest Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange D2005 things... Mario A. Montoya (mamcx) wrote: Quote: - Compilation errors are marked always a line above real line of problem. That cause me troubles because sometimes the above line look more prone error but the next look easy but is the real cause of the error. Only discover it because when you see that "begin" is the line of error....yeah, riiiiight... This has been a "problem" in Delphi for a few versions at least (probably since version 1.0 I'm guessing). I know that it also occurs in Delphi 7. To fix it Borland needs to treat LF characters like CR-LF pairs. The editor currently does this for display of source code but the error line reporting (from the compiler I guess) ignores the LF characters so it reports the line number incorrectly. This is a very perplexing problem when you first encounter it, especially if you don't know that Unix text files are formatted differently to "DOS" files. I use my own LF to CR-LF utility to "fix" source code files when I see this problem. Cheers, Kevin. Back to top Mario A. Montoya (mamcx) Guest Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: THANKS Strange D2005 things... Thanks to all. Now i'm working fine and feel more productive. Now, all is working... Back to top Andrew Rybenkov Guest Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange D2005 things... Quote: (probably since version 1.0 I'm guessing). that is hardly - Readln (language function!) was changed between D5 and D6. Because of a Unix clone Borland 'ucked down the ancieniest compatibility. -- Andrew Rybenkov. 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