BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  TDateTimePicker Bug          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi VCL Components Using View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Rodger Van Kirk Guest Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 3:13 pm    Post subject: TDateTimePicker Bug Ok here is what you do. Place a TDateTimePicker on your form. Set Kind to dtkTime and set DateMode to dmUpDown and set ShowCheckBox to true. Now run the application. When you select an hour and click on one of the up/down arrows the hour will change once then the focus changes to the checkbox. This is really awkward to keep having to re-select the hour after every change. Is there a fix for this? Of something better to use? Thanks in advance, Rodger Back to top Mike Williams (TeamB) Guest Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 5:31 pm    Post subject: Re: TDateTimePicker Bug On 29 Jul 2003, "Rodger Van Kirk" <rodgerv (AT) nospam (DOT) calsense.com> wrote: Quote: This is really awkward to keep having to re-select the hour after every change. Is there a fix for this? Of something better to use? The tDateTimePicker is really a Microsoft component that Delphi has a thin wrapper for. -- -Mike (TeamB) Back to top Andrew Jameson Guest Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: TDateTimePicker Bug Hi Mike, That didn't really answer Rodger's question ... but I'd suggest a quick trip around Torry's site (when's he back ?) ... Raize has a cool suite of components too ... Now ... isn't it about time that Borland addressed the issue with it's now antiquated components ... I've not seen any dramatic changes to Delphi over the last few versions ... great compiler but crap components ... complacent attitudes will become the ultimate deathknell of what is a superb product .... why should we the developers have to fork out even more hard earned cash to get components that don't rely on being tatty wrappers around some MicroSoft rubbish ! (Look through some of the VCL code, it's like a history lesson ... much of it going back to pre-Delphi days ... remember Turbo Pascal and Pascal for Windows ?). Andrew "Mike Williams (TeamB)" <mikew (AT) remove (DOT) aps-soft.com> wrote Quote: On 29 Jul 2003, "Rodger Van Kirk" <rodgerv (AT) nospam (DOT) calsense.com> wrote: This is really awkward to keep having to re-select the hour after every change. Is there a fix for this? Of something better to use? The tDateTimePicker is really a Microsoft component that Delphi has a thin wrapper for. -- -Mike (TeamB) Back to top Mike Williams (TeamB) Guest Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: TDateTimePicker Bug On 29 Jul 2003, "Andrew Jameson" <contact (AT) softspotsoftware (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: That didn't really answer Rodger's question ... but I'd suggest a quick trip around Torry's site (when's he back ?) ... Raize has a cool suite of components too ... Agreed. Years ago I wrote my own tDateTime picker that looks just like the MS version but in pure Delphi but without the usability problems. Quote: Now ... isn't it about time that Borland addressed the issue with it's now antiquated components ... I've not seen any dramatic changes to Delphi over the last few versions ... great compiler but crap components ... Perhaps you've missed all of the new components added with each version of Delphi. Borland takes backwards compatibility seriously. Even if the problems addressed with tDateTimePicker are MS problems, Borland can't just drop that component without affecting users. If you don't like a built-in component don't use it. There are plenty of free and commercial alternatives available as you've pointed out. If I had to choose I'd prefer that Borland spend time working on the language and IDE and let others develop components. -- -Mike (TeamB) Back to top Andrew Jameson Guest Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: TDateTimePicker Bug I whole heartedly agree ... there are many new features that have been incorporated into latter versions of Delphi ... but a lot are from third party vendors that are public domain anyway ... Indy ... and yes I'd much rather see Borland developing new functionality .net etc. ... but I'd much prefer to see a minimal set of base components that are solidly robust and up to date and long outstanding quirks such as the range of problems that are associated with TDateTimePicker illustrate what must be complacency ... I've written my own TDateTimePicker that provdies almost 100% compatibility with the existing one ... I didn't provide the drop down calandar ... Maybe Borland should contract a third party to provide a revamped and backward compatible set of base components ... Raize for example ... Andrew Back to top Rodger Van Kirk Guest Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: TDateTimePicker Bug Andrew, Could I have a look at your replacement DateTimePicker? Thanks, Rodger "Andrew Jameson" <contact (AT) softspotsoftware (DOT) com> wrote Quote: I whole heartedly agree ... there are many new features that have been incorporated into latter versions of Delphi ... but a lot are from third party vendors that are public domain anyway ... Indy ... and yes I'd much rather see Borland developing new functionality .net etc. ... but I'd much prefer to see a minimal set of base components that are solidly robust and up to date and long outstanding quirks such as the range of problems that are associated with TDateTimePicker illustrate what must be complacency .... I've written my own TDateTimePicker that provdies almost 100% compatibility with the existing one ... I didn't provide the drop down calandar ... Maybe Borland should contract a third party to provide a revamped and backward compatible set of base components ... Raize for example ... 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