BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Tired of: Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, file          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (IDE) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Albert Wiersch Guest Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:11 pm    Post subject: Tired of: Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, file Why do I keep getting "Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, file ..\ek_flbuf.cpp, line 315" and then an abnormal shutdown? Is there a fix for this? I didn't see one last time I looked. -- Albert Wiersch Fix your website: http://onlinewebcheck.com Back to top Pete Fraser Guest Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Tired of: Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, When? Which application Which version Which OS etc.etc. Rgds Pete "Albert Wiersch" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:44ef2116 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Why do I keep getting "Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, file .\ek_flbuf.cpp, line 315" and then an abnormal shutdown? Is there a fix for this? I didn't see one last time I looked. -- Albert Wiersch Fix your website: http://onlinewebcheck.com Back to top Albert Wiersch Guest Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Tired of: Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, Using BDS 2006 (Update 2) to edit a C++ file.OS is Win XP Pro SP2. Sometimes I can go a while without the error appearing, sometimes it appears frequently. I'm not really sure what is causing it. I believe it usually happens when I press the return key after making editing changes to the code, but I don't know how to reproduce it on a consistent basis. Perhaps it has something to do when I add a left curly brace and when I hit return it typically adds the closing curly brace but maybe the editor/IDE is getting confused somehow. -- Albert Wiersch "Pete Fraser" <pete.nospam.fraser.nospam (AT) frasersoft (DOT) nospam.net> wrote in message news:44ef251e (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: When? Which application Which version Which OS etc.etc. Rgds Pete "Albert Wiersch" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:44ef2116 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Why do I keep getting "Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, file .\ek_flbuf.cpp, line 315" and then an abnormal shutdown? Is there a fix for this? I didn't see one last time I looked. -- Albert Wiersch Fix your website: http://onlinewebcheck.com Back to top Atmapuri Guest Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Tired of: Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, Hi! How much memory do you have? This error is present in BDS IDE since its first release in 2003, but as average memory available has increased it got less frequent. At least I did not see it in BDS2006, but had it every day a few times in BDS2005. Regards! Atmapuri "Albert Wiersch" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:44ef47b8 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Using BDS 2006 (Update 2) to edit a C++ file.OS is Win XP Pro SP2. Sometimes I can go a while without the error appearing, sometimes it appears frequently. I'm not really sure what is causing it. I believe it usually happens when I press the return key after making editing changes to the code, but I don't know how to reproduce it on a consistent basis. Perhaps it has something to do when I add a left curly brace and when I hit return it typically adds the closing curly brace but maybe the editor/IDE is getting confused somehow. -- Albert Wiersch "Pete Fraser" <pete.nospam.fraser.nospam (AT) frasersoft (DOT) nospam.net> wrote in message news:44ef251e (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... When? Which application Which version Which OS etc.etc. Rgds Pete "Albert Wiersch" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:44ef2116 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Why do I keep getting "Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, file .\ek_flbuf.cpp, line 315" and then an abnormal shutdown? Is there a fix for this? I didn't see one last time I looked. -- Albert Wiersch Fix your website: http://onlinewebcheck.com Back to top vavan Guest Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Tired of: Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:52:37 +0200, "Atmapuri" <janez.makovsek (AT) usa (DOT) net> wrote: Quote: How much memory do you have? This error is present I get similar assertion failures (but quite rarely I must admit) on my pc which has 1Gb installed anyway it seems to me like rather dubious way to indicate ide problems. it not only means we have debug-version of ide but also makes it difficult to report the bug since instead of AV or something which could lead to jedi exception handler (which I don't like very much btw) raised one either has to terminate the whole process or leave it working with UB -- Vladimir Ulchenko aka vavan Back to top Atmapuri Guest Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Tired of: Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, Hi! Quote: which could lead to jedi exception handler (which I don't like very much btw) raised one either has to terminate the whole process or leave it working with UB The most funny thing is working around a software bug with a hardware upgrade :) Regards! Atmapuri Back to top Chris Uzdavinis (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Tired of: Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, vavan <VavanRemove (AT) ThisSantel (DOT) ru> writes: Quote: anyway it seems to me like rather dubious way to indicate ide problems. it not only means we have debug-version of ide but also makes it difficult to report the bug since instead of AV or something which could lead to jedi exception handler (which I don't like very much btw) raised one either has to terminate the whole process or leave it working with UB It's not uncommon to leave assertions enabled in production code. Afterall, if there is a problem, you can report the assertion that failed and they have some chance of tracking it down. With assertions removed, all you can report is that "something isn't working", which is never a useful bug report. Except under extreme performance-critical applications, simple assertions introduce a negligable overhead to the program, but offer measureable benefits. -- Chris (TeamB); Back to top vavan Guest Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: Tired of: Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:09:15 -0400, Chris Uzdavinis (TeamB) <chris (AT) uzdavinis (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: It's not uncommon to leave assertions enabled in production code. let me clarify it's not that I do not like or do not use assertions at all, but I see no big point in using "standard" assertions which usually simply show some message with failing invariant and terminate application. instead my own assertions tend to throw some predefined exception class so I can track it down successfully given that I can see the whole callstack, registers, environment etc. Quote: removed, all you can report is that "something isn't working", which is never a useful bug report. actually this is exactly what's happening with their assertions :( -- Vladimir Ulchenko aka vavan Back to top Chris Uzdavinis (TeamB) Guest Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Tired of: Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, vavan <VavanRemove (AT) ThisSantel (DOT) ru> writes: Quote: removed, all you can report is that "something isn't working", which is never a useful bug report. actually this is exactly what's happening with their assertions The assertion failures contain a file and line number. You don't think that the developers of the IDE would find that useful? -- Chris (TeamB); Back to top vavan Guest Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Tired of: Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 08:38:14 -0400, Chris Uzdavinis (TeamB) <chris (AT) uzdavinis (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: The assertion failures contain a file and line number. You don't actually I think that only in quite simple situations usual file/line info would be sufficient in order to fix the bug. as someone reported in this thread in previous release of ide he had the very same asserion several times a day so looks like they fixed _some_ reasons of this bug. but way too often one needs to know the whole context of failing and other threads in order to find the reason of the bug. and sometimes even such level of info isn't enough Quote: think that the developers of the IDE would find that useful? we can only wait the next release and see whether they found it useful or not -- Vladimir Ulchenko aka vavan Back to top David Dean Guest Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: Tired of: Assertion failed: amount >= dest - startDest, In article <aoe8f2dbhcvc71jtof2oklugfabh6kr1l9 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, vavan <VavanRemove (AT) ThisSantel (DOT) ru> wrote: Quote: we can only wait the next release and see whether they found it useful or not It would be a whole lot more likely to get fixed if someone could post reproducible steps. -- -David Quis custodiet custodes ipsos? 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