BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Together VS Sparx EA Goto page 1, 2  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Yannis Guest Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:04 pm    Post subject: Together VS Sparx EA Has any one any link that do this kind of comparison between EA and Together? What is the reasoning in selecting Together over EA in a delphi oriented shop? Regards Yannis. Back to top Craig Stuntz [TeamB] Guest Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Together VS Sparx EA Yannis wrote: Quote: Has any one any link that do this kind of comparison between EA and Together? What is the reasoning in selecting Together over EA in a delphi oriented shop? For one thing, I don't think EA has any tie-in to ECO. That may or may not be an issue for you. -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] . Vertex Systems Corp. . Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz How to ask questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Back to top Yannis Guest Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Together VS Sparx EA "Craig Stuntz [TeamB]" <craig_stuntz (AT) nospam (DOT) please [a.k.a. acm.org]> wrote in news:42d27926$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com: Quote: Yannis wrote: Has any one any link that do this kind of comparison between EA and Together? What is the reasoning in selecting Together over EA in a delphi oriented shop? For one thing, I don't think EA has any tie-in to ECO. That may or may not be an issue for you. Thanks this is a good point to keep in mind for feature development at this time we only do WIN32 so ECO is not in the picture. I do remember that Together did not intergrade with delphi is this steel true? Regards Yannis. Back to top Craig Stuntz [TeamB] Guest Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Together VS Sparx EA Yannis wrote: Quote: I do remember that Together did not intergrade with delphi is this steel true? The standalone Together doesn't. But portions of Together are built into D2005. -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] . Vertex Systems Corp. . Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz Please read and follow Borland's rules for the user of their news server: http://info.borland.com/newsgroups/guide.html Back to top Yannis Guest Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Together VS Sparx EA "Craig Stuntz [TeamB]" <craig_stuntz (AT) nospam (DOT) please [a.k.a. acm.org]> wrote in news:42d28a4a$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com: Quote: Yannis wrote: I do remember that Together did not intergrade with delphi is this steel true? The standalone Together doesn't. But portions of Together are built into D2005. I am a registered owner of D2005PRO so I'll try to find out more for together parts. Is there any info outside the online help? Thank you for the valuable information Regards Yannis. Back to top Yannis Guest Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Together VS Sparx EA Ingvar Nilsen <my.adress (AT) my (DOT) signature> wrote in news:42d28870$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com: Quote: Yannis wrote: I do remember that Together did not intergrade with delphi is this steel true? I am not sure myself, even as an EA user, I normally do not like "integrating" too much, although done in a nice way it is beneficial. But apart from that, you can write plug-ins (add-ins) to EA using Delphi! Very nice feature. Personally I like AE a lot. Simple, powerful, CUSTOMIZABLE!! Together is also a great product, but I am not much familiar with it. As a newbee on project, requirement ...etc management I am not familiar with the capabilities of this tools so it will be at least a month before I can make an educated disition on the matter. I like the idea of creating the model from source code as helping step for a better understanding. Thank you for your insite. Regards Yannis. Back to top Ingvar Nilsen Guest Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Together VS Sparx EA Yannis wrote: Quote: I do remember that Together did not intergrade with delphi is this steel true? I am not sure myself, even as an EA user, I normally do not like "integrating" too much, although done in a nice way it is beneficial. But apart from that, you can write plug-ins (add-ins) to EA using Delphi! Very nice feature. Personally I like AE a lot. Simple, powerful, CUSTOMIZABLE!! Together is also a great product, but I am not much familiar with it. -- Ingvar Nilsen http://www.ingvarius.com Back to top Craig Stuntz [TeamB] Guest Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Together VS Sparx EA Yannis wrote: Quote: I am a registered owner of D2005PRO so I'll try to find out more for together parts. Is there any info outside the online help? I don't know which features, if any, are surfaced in Pro. But look for a model view tab. -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] . Vertex Systems Corp. . Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz Back to top Ingvar Nilsen Guest Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Together VS Sparx EA Yannis wrote: Quote: I like the idea of creating the model from source code as helping step for a better understanding. Enterprise Architect is rather good at that. Just an advice, do not expect the tool to do too much, or allow it to do too much. You first need to understand how modelling works. Myself I do not use nearly all features, and with respect to code engineering and reverse engineering I also use that carefully, and mostly I change the source code in Delphi and then regenerate the diagrams by letting EA scan the source code. Same applies to Visual Studio .Net. -- Ingvar Nilsen http://www.ingvarius.com Back to top John Kaster (Borland) Guest Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Together VS Sparx EA Craig Stuntz [TeamB] wrote: Quote: The standalone Together doesn't. The features of the "standalone" Together are not available for Delphi. Yet. The next major version should have them. -- John Kaster http://blogs.borland.com/johnk Features and bugs: http://qc.borland.com Get source: http://cc.borland.com If it's not here, it's not happening: http://ec.borland.com Back to top Lauchlan M Guest Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:42 am    Post subject: Re: Together VS Sparx EA Quote: The standalone Together doesn't. The features of the "standalone" Together are not available for Delphi. Yet. The next major version should have them. Does that include the auditing/metrics stuff? Lauchlan M Back to top John Kaster (Borland) Guest Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:59 am    Post subject: Re: Together VS Sparx EA Lauchlan M wrote: Quote: Does that include the auditing/metrics stuff? That's the plan -- John Kaster http://blogs.borland.com/johnk Features and bugs: http://qc.borland.com Get source: http://cc.borland.com If it's not here, it's not happening: http://ec.borland.com Back to top Yannis Guest Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: Together VS Sparx EA Yannis <None (AT) noware (DOT) non> wrote in news:42d26e48$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com: Quote: Has any one any link that do this kind of comparison between EA and Together? What is the reasoning in selecting Together over EA in a delphi oriented shop? Regards Yannis. I woold like to thanks every one for your valuable input and the overlook for my spelling mistakes. Thank you Regards Yannis. Back to top Henry Guest Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: Together VS Sparx EA Yannis wrote: Quote: Has any one any link that do this kind of comparison between EA and Together? What is the reasoning in selecting Together over EA in a delphi oriented shop? If you have a large budget which has to be spent fast. Back to top Yannis Guest Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: Together VS Sparx EA Henry <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote in news:42d37c68 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com: Quote: Yannis wrote: Has any one any link that do this kind of comparison between EA and Together? What is the reasoning in selecting Together over EA in a delphi oriented shop? If you have a large budget which has to be spent fast. Let me get this strate, your answer is that there is no reason to choose Together over EA. Right? Thanks Regards Yannis. 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