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William Meyer
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:01 pm    Post subject: toolbar virus??? Reply with quote



My notebook has recently acquired an IE toolbar that behaves like a
virus. It has a search box, and a number of buttons, an attractive
design, and the button selections change in context of the page being
viewed. A bright idea on someone's part, no doubt. On the toolbar menu,
there is a selection for PileAce, and that turns the toolbar off or on
-- but when turned off, it is turned on again as soon as you select a
new page.

The thing that makes it like a virus is that I didn't install it, and
haven't been able to discover how to uninstall it, or permanently
disable it.

Interestingly, on all the search engines I have tried, PileAce appears
to be unknown. Has anyone here seen this thing?

--
Bill
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"I cannot under-take to lay my finger on that article in the
Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the
object of benevolence, the money of their constituents." -- James
Madison
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Martin Waldenburg
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: toolbar virus??? Reply with quote



http://www.newsforge.com/software/04/07/01/123233.shtml

Martin
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Iman L Crawford
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: toolbar virus??? Reply with quote



"William Meyer" <wmeyerNO (AT) SPAMsbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in news:40e594f3$1
@newsgroups.borland.com:
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Interestingly, on all the search engines I have tried, PileAce appears
to be unknown. Has anyone here seen this thing?

Get adaware, spybot, and CWSShredder. Run all of them to clean up your
machine and then ditch IE. Even the homeland security department has
recommended not using it anymore.

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Iman



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Kurt Bilde
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: toolbar virus??? Reply with quote

Iman L Crawford wrote:
Quote:
Get adaware, spybot, and CWSShredder. Run all of them to clean up your
machine and then ditch IE. Even the homeland security department has
recommended not using it anymore.

Well Phishing-attacks can occur in Mozilla (<1.7), Mozilla Firefox (<
0.9), Opera, Safari and Konqueror. Guess that one have to use common
sense these days!

-Kurt

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Iman L Crawford
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: toolbar virus??? Reply with quote

Kurt Bilde <kub (AT) sam (DOT) sdu.dk> wrote in news:40e59d30 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com:
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Well Phishing-attacks can occur in Mozilla (<1.7), Mozilla Firefox (
0.9), Opera, Safari and Konqueror.

Phishing? IE will allow installation of software without you even knowing
about it. Several popular websites were recently compromised and IE
exploits installed on their servers.

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Iman



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Msangali
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: toolbar virus??? Reply with quote

I'm browsing only with Firefox 0.91 now, and I fully recommend it.

Regards,
Msangali


"Kurt Bilde" <kub (AT) sam (DOT) sdu.dk> wrote

Quote:
Iman L Crawford wrote:
Get adaware, spybot, and CWSShredder. Run all of them to clean up your
machine and then ditch IE. Even the homeland security department has
recommended not using it anymore.

Well Phishing-attacks can occur in Mozilla (<1.7), Mozilla Firefox (
0.9), Opera, Safari and Konqueror. Guess that one have to use common
sense these days!

-Kurt



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Kevin
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: toolbar virus??? Reply with quote

William Meyer wrote:
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My notebook has recently acquired an IE toolbar that behaves like a

aaaayyyyyyyeeeeee.......

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Kevin
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: toolbar virus??? Reply with quote

Kevin wrote:
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aaaayyyyyyyeeeeee.......

Get Mozilla Firefox rather. :-)

Even Microsoft's Slate is recommending it:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2103152/

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Kevin
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: toolbar virus??? Reply with quote

Kurt Bilde wrote:
Quote:
Well Phishing-attacks can occur in Mozilla (<1.7), Mozilla Firefox (
0.9), Opera, Safari and Konqueror. Guess that one have to use common
sense these days!

Well... It is still true to say that with IE you have to be much more
careful than with Moz. There are far fewer exploits that target Moz.
The US government, Slate, eWeek and Wired magazine (those were just the
articles that I noticed, there may be more) are all recommending that
you switch to Firefox and dump IE.

Cheers,
Kevin.

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Eric Schreiber
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: toolbar virus??? Reply with quote

Kurt Bilde wrote:

Quote:
Guess that one have to use common sense these days!

It's always been a handy tool to use. I used to run a public access BBS
for about six years. I've been playing on the net for probably a
decade, the last several years of that with a full tiem broadband
connection.

In all that time, I've had not a single virus or trojan infection on
any of my machines. Basic commen sense coupled with up-to-date A/V
software and a firewall seems to have served me pretty well. Despite
the fact that I use OE and IE exclusively.


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Eric Schreiber
Kobayashi Software
www.kobayashi.com

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Thomas Miller
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: toolbar virus??? Reply with quote

I really like http://www.pestpatrol.com/ for this. Work great.

Iman L Crawford wrote:
Quote:
"William Meyer" <wmeyerNO (AT) SPAMsbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in news:40e594f3$1
@newsgroups.borland.com:

Interestingly, on all the search engines I have tried, PileAce appears
to be unknown. Has anyone here seen this thing?


Get adaware, spybot, and CWSShredder. Run all of them to clean up your
machine and then ditch IE. Even the homeland security department has
recommended not using it anymore.


--
Thomas Miller
Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer
BSS Accounting & Distribution Software
BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork

http://www.bss-software.com
http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus

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William Meyer
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: toolbar virus??? Reply with quote

On 07/02/04, Martin Waldenburg said:

Quote:
http://www.newsforge.com/software/04/07/01/123233.shtml

Not even remotely interesting. I use Netscape 7 for most work, but
there are numerous sites that are partly non-functional on anything but
IE. I've heard claims that NS is the most standards compliant -- I
wouldn't know. What I do know is this: a browser is just a tool, and I
use a tool to get a job done. NS can't do some jobs, so IE can't be
removed.

--
Bill
--------

"I cannot under-take to lay my finger on that article in the
Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the
object of benevolence, the money of their constituents." -- James
Madison

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William Meyer
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: toolbar virus??? Reply with quote

On 07/02/04, Iman L Crawford said:

Quote:
Get adaware, spybot, and CWSShredder. Run all of them to clean up
your machine and then ditch IE. Even the homeland security
department has recommended not using it anymore.

I use Spybot, I will get the others. I cannot ditch IE; there are a
number of sites that I need access to that are not responsive to any
browser but IE. I'm not in it for a cause, nor for any religious zeal
-- a browser is just a tool, and whether the fault lies in NS or in the
sites in question matters not, as I need to use them for business
purposes.

--
Bill
--------

"I cannot under-take to lay my finger on that article in the
Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the
object of benevolence, the money of their constituents." -- James
Madison

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William Meyer
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:58 pm    Post subject: Re: toolbar virus??? Reply with quote

On 07/02/04, Kevin said:

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Get Mozilla Firefox rather. :-)

Even Microsoft's Slate is recommending it:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2103152/

Matters not, if it fails on some of the sites I *must* visit for
business.

--
Bill
--------

"I cannot under-take to lay my finger on that article in the
Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the
object of benevolence, the money of their constituents." -- James
Madison

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Kevin
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:07 pm    Post subject: Re: toolbar virus??? Reply with quote

William Meyer wrote:
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Matters not, if it fails on some of the sites I *must* visit for
business.

Like?

In any case... it's not like you have to get rid of IE when you use
Firefox most of the time. It's not a big deal to use IE occasionally
when you really have to. After using Firefox for a while I guarantee
you that you will start to prefer it (tabbed browsing is really great).
If you do web development you'll also prefer it because there are lots
of enhancements that are geared to developers.

What it comes down to is this:
* The more people use Firefox the more web site will care about
complying with web standards. There are so many hacks on web sites out
there just to try and get the desired results with IE- it supports W3C
standards really badly.

Cheers,
Kevin.

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