BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Upgrade path for C++Builder - clue for new version?          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Bill Bream Guest Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:56 pm    Post subject: Upgrade path for C++Builder - clue for new version? I don't think I've seen this mentioned here: initially, C++Builder was NOT included in the "reduced price" upgrade path for Delphi 2005 (C# Builder). Then, a few weeks ago, I noticed that somebody changed that - you can now upgrade from any previous version of C++Builder to Delphi 2005 for the $400 price. The question is: is this a clue that the Dec. 15 decision will be "positive" for us C++Builder programmers (Borland will add a C++ Builder personality), or just that we'll be "stuck" with moving to Delphi 2005 (or the C#Builder personality contained in Delphi)? Bill Bream Back to top Chris Uzdavinis (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Upgrade path for C++Builder - clue for new version? "Bill Bream" <bb (AT) insightmed (DOT) com> writes: Quote: I don't think I've seen this mentioned here: initially, C++Builder was NOT included in the "reduced price" upgrade path for Delphi 2005 (C# Builder). Then, a few weeks ago, I noticed that somebody changed that - you can now upgrade from any previous version of C++Builder to Delphi 2005 for the $400 price. The question is: is this a clue that the Dec. 15 decision will be "positive" for us C++Builder programmers (Borland will add a C++ Builder personality), or just that we'll be "stuck" with moving to Delphi 2005 (or the C#Builder personality contained in Delphi)? I don't think it's an indication of anything in particular, at least not regarding what will be announced on Dec 15. Perhaps it's just correcting an oversight? -- Chris (TeamB); Back to top Remy Lebeau (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Upgrade path for C++Builder - clue for new version? "Bill Bream" <bb (AT) insightmed (DOT) com> wrote Quote: initially, C++Builder was NOT included in the "reduced price" upgrade path for Delphi 2005 (C# Builder). Why should it be? C++ is not part of Delphi 2005 to begin with. C++ is not C#. Quote: Then, a few weeks ago, I noticed that somebody changed that - you can now upgrade from any previous version of C++Builder to Delphi 2005 for the $400 price. The question is: is this a clue that the Dec. 15 decision will be "positive" for us C++Builder programmers (Borland will add a C++ Builder personality), or just that we'll be "stuck" with moving to Delphi 2005 (or the C#Builder personality contained in Delphi)? There is no way to answer that. Anyone "in the know" would be under NDA not to divulge that information yet. Anything else would be speculation and guesswork again. I wish people would stop doing that, and just have some patience. It is only 2 more weeks before the official answer will be made clear. Gambit Back to top Kenneth de Camargo Guest Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Upgrade path for C++Builder - clue for new version? Bill Bream wrote: Quote: The question is: is this a clue that the Dec. 15 decision will be "positive" for us C++Builder programmers (Borland will add a C++ Builder personality), or just that we'll be "stuck" with moving to Delphi 2005 (or the C#Builder personality contained in Delphi)? You can speculate over that until you overload your neurons, since it can be read either way, or simply wait until Dec. 15th... :) -- Ken http://planeta.terra.com.br/educacao/kencamargo/ * this is not a sig * Back to top David Cameron Guest Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Upgrade path for C++Builder - clue for new version? "Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam (AT) no (DOT) spam.com> wrote Quote: "Bill Bream" <bb (AT) insightmed (DOT) com> wrote in message news:41ab62da$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... initially, C++Builder was NOT included in the "reduced price" upgrade path for Delphi 2005 (C# Builder). Why should it be? C++ is not part of Delphi 2005 to begin with. C++ is not C#. Then, a few weeks ago, I noticed that somebody changed that - you can now upgrade from any previous version of C++Builder to Delphi 2005 for the $400 price. The question is: is this a clue that the Dec. 15 decision will be "positive" for us C++Builder programmers (Borland will add a C++ Builder personality), or just that we'll be "stuck" with moving to Delphi 2005 (or the C#Builder personality contained in Delphi)? There is no way to answer that. Anyone "in the know" would be under NDA not to divulge that information yet. Anything else would be speculation and guesswork again. I wish people would stop doing that, and just have some patience. It is only 2 more weeks before the official answer will be made clear. Gambit Hi Remy, Do you have any privileged info from Borland regarding "The Dec 15th decision" (as a Team B member under NDA) ? NB: I am not asking you what that information may be. (just Yes or No); If not, do you expect to recieve information from Borland prior to the public announcement (as a Team B member under NDA) regarding this? TIA, Dave Back to top Remy Lebeau (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Upgrade path for C++Builder - clue for new version? "David Cameron" <nomail (AT) to (DOT) me> wrote Quote: Do you have any privileged info from Borland regarding "The Dec 15th decision" (as a Team B member under NDA) ? Only that it is still scheduled for release on December 15th. Nothing about its actual contents has been reveiled yet, not even to TeamB. Quote: If not, do you expect to recieve information from Borland prior to the public announcement (as a Team B member under NDA) regarding this? Maybe, maybe not. That is Borland's decision whether to tell TeamB prior to the release or not. Gambit Back to top Chris Uzdavinis (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Upgrade path for C++Builder - clue for new version? "David Cameron" <nomail (AT) to (DOT) me> writes: Quote: Hi Remy, Do you have any privileged info from Borland regarding "The Dec 15th decision" (as a Team B member under NDA) ? Currently, no. Between now and Dec 15, we have no idea if they'll tell us anything or not. Quote: NB: I am not asking you what that information may be. (just Yes or No); If not, do you expect to recieve information from Borland prior to the public announcement (as a Team B member under NDA) regarding this? I have no expectations either way. Anything else would be an arbitrary guess. -- Chris (TeamB); Back to top Bill Bream Guest Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Upgrade path for C++Builder - clue for new version? "Kenneth de Camargo" <INVERT:rb.moc.arret@jcrk> wrote: Quote: Bill Bream wrote: The question is: is this a clue that the Dec. 15 decision will be "positive" for us C++Builder programmers (Borland will add a C++ Builder personality), or just that we'll be "stuck" with moving to Delphi 2005 (or the C#Builder personality contained in Delphi)? You can speculate over that until you overload your neurons, since it can be read either way, or simply wait until Dec. 15th... :) -- Ken http://planeta.terra.com.br/educacao/kencamargo/ * this is not a sig * I will stop "overloading my neurons" and wait ...I DO appreciate Borland's giving those of us with C++Builder Professional the upgrade $400 price for Delphi 2005 (since I also use C#Builder but only the personal edition), even though, as was pointed out, they didn't have to do that. Bill Bream Back to top David Cameron Guest Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:59 am    Post subject: Re: Upgrade path for C++Builder - clue for new version? "Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam (AT) no (DOT) spam.com> wrote Quote: "David Cameron" <nomail (AT) to (DOT) me> wrote in message news:41ab9fd6$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Do you have any privileged info from Borland regarding "The Dec 15th decision" (as a Team B member under NDA) ? Only that it is still scheduled for release on December 15th. Nothing about its actual contents has been reveiled yet, not even to TeamB. If not, do you expect to recieve information from Borland prior to the public announcement (as a Team B member under NDA) regarding this? Maybe, maybe not. That is Borland's decision whether to tell TeamB prior to the release or not. Thanks for the reply Remy. *If* Borlands response regarding the future of BCB (with Win32 VCL support) is going to be negative or non-commital, would you expect infomation from Borland regarding this, (prior to the public announcement) as a "courtesy", given yours and other Team B members support for BCB over many years? I know this is up to Borland, but personally I think you would be owed that mutch. TIA, Dave Back to top David Cameron Guest Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:14 am    Post subject: Re: Upgrade path for C++Builder - clue for new version? "Chris Uzdavinis (TeamB)" <chris (AT) uzdavinis (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "David Cameron" <nomail (AT) to (DOT) me> writes: Hi Remy, Do you have any privileged info from Borland regarding "The Dec 15th decision" (as a Team B member under NDA) ? Currently, no. Between now and Dec 15, we have no idea if they'll tell us anything or not. NB: I am not asking you what that information may be. (just Yes or No); If not, do you expect to recieve information from Borland prior to the public announcement (as a Team B member under NDA) regarding this? I have no expectations either way. Anything else would be an arbitrary guess. Thanks for the reply Chris. When I say "expect to recieve information from Borland prior to the public announcement ", I mean from a courtesy point of view. Maybe "hope" would have been a better choice of word than "expect" <g> Dave Back to top Remy Lebeau (TeamB) Guest Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:16 am    Post subject: Re: Upgrade path for C++Builder - clue for new version? "David Cameron" <nomail (AT) to (DOT) me> wrote Quote: *If* Borlands response regarding the future of BCB (with Win32 VCL support) is going to be negative or non-commital, would you expect infomation from Borland regarding this, (prior to the public announcement) as a "courtesy", given yours and other Team B members support for BCB over many years? I know this is up to Borland, but personally I think you would be owed that mutch. Letting TeamB see the announcement before it is made public has already been suggested to Borland. Whether Borland will actually do that or not is anyone's guess right now. Gambit Back to top Andrue Cope [TeamB] Guest Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: Upgrade path for C++Builder - clue for new version? David Cameron wrote: Quote: When I say "expect to recieve information from Borland prior to the public announcement ", I mean from a courtesy point of view. Maybe "hope" would have been a better choice of word than "expect" Well it'd be nice. 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