BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Upgrading 7 to 7.1 will most likely get me fired...          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Upgrade View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message JSheble Guest Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:37 pm    Post subject: Upgrading 7 to 7.1 will most likely get me fired... Most of our development here is against a 3rd party COM object, that in Delphi 7.,0 worked beautifully. However, after suggestions from various other developers, we upgraded to Delphi 7.1 and now all access to the 3rd party com object is dead. As a doornail. No programs that access that COM object work at all now. Every one of my projects is dead, and I'm in serious jeopardy of losing my job. How can I revert back to the old Delphi 7.0? There's no way to un-install just the update... Back to top Leo Saguisag (Borland) Guest Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Upgrading 7 to 7.1 will most likely get me fired... JSheble wrote: Quote: Most of our development here is against a 3rd party COM object, that in Delphi 7.,0 worked beautifully. However, after suggestions from various other developers, we upgraded to Delphi 7.1 and now all access to the 3rd party com object is dead. As a doornail. No programs that access that COM object work at all now. Every one of my projects is dead, and I'm in serious jeopardy of losing my job. How can I revert back to the old Delphi 7.0? There's no way to un-install just the update... Only way I can think of is to uninstall everything and then re-install from original media. The inability to remove a patch was a limitation of the MSI 2.0 install engine. Back to top mE Guest Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Upgrading 7 to 7.1 will most likely get me fired... Is there any way to determine what could be going wrong? It's certainly something to do with how the TypeLib is created or how the app actually accesses the the COM Object. These problems only occurred after upgrading to 7.1, and re-importing the TypeLib. I uninstalled the 7.1, re-installed the 7.0 but did not re-import the TypeLib, I used the *_TLB.pas file that was created with the 7.1 update, and all access to the COM object still failed. I re-imported in 7.0 and it started working again. The COM Object in question was created in VB, and it's not a very good COM object, but unfortunately I have no real choice in the matter, I have to use it. "Leo Saguisag (Borland)" <lsaguisag_at_borland_dot_com> wrote Quote: JSheble wrote: Most of our development here is against a 3rd party COM object, that in Delphi 7.,0 worked beautifully. However, after suggestions from various other developers, we upgraded to Delphi 7.1 and now all access to the 3rd party com object is dead. As a doornail. No programs that access that COM object work at all now. Every one of my projects is dead, and I'm in serious jeopardy of losing my job. How can I revert back to the old Delphi 7.0? There's no way to un-install just the update... Only way I can think of is to uninstall everything and then re-install from original media. The inability to remove a patch was a limitation of the MSI 2.0 install engine. Back to top Leo Saguisag (Borland) Guest Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Upgrading 7 to 7.1 will most likely get me fired... mE wrote: Quote: Is there any way to determine what could be going wrong? It's certainly something to do with how the TypeLib is created or how the app actually accesses the the COM Object. These problems only occurred after upgrading to 7.1, and re-importing the TypeLib. I uninstalled the 7.1, re-installed the 7.0 but did not re-import the TypeLib, I used the *_TLB.pas file that was created with the 7.1 update, and all access to the COM object still failed. I re-imported in 7.0 and it started working again. The COM Object in question was created in VB, and it's not a very good COM object, but unfortunately I have no real choice in the matter, I have to use it. Did you preserve a copy of the _TLB.pas file created by 7.1? If you did, run a filecomp and see if there are any differences. You may have found a bug in the type library importer. Back to top JSheble Guest Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Upgrading 7 to 7.1 will most likely get me fired... There are a whole slew of differences... lots & lots & lots & lots... But most of them appear to be the order in which it lists the properties and methods. Without spending too much time on it, it doesn't appear that the declarations themselves are different, they just appear to be in different places in the TLB file. Same COM Object, but the importer is reading it in different order? There could be other changes, but I really don't have the time to study this as in depth as I'd like. "Leo Saguisag (Borland)" <lsaguisag_at_borland_dot_com> wrote Quote: mE wrote: Is there any way to determine what could be going wrong? It's certainly something to do with how the TypeLib is created or how the app actually accesses the the COM Object. These problems only occurred after upgrading to 7.1, and re-importing the TypeLib. I uninstalled the 7.1, re-installed the 7.0 but did not re-import the TypeLib, I used the *_TLB.pas file that was created with the 7.1 update, and all access to the COM object still failed. I re-imported in 7.0 and it started working again. The COM Object in question was created in VB, and it's not a very good COM object, but unfortunately I have no real choice in the matter, I have to use it. Did you preserve a copy of the _TLB.pas file created by 7.1? If you did, run a filecomp and see if there are any differences. You may have found a bug in the type library importer. Back to top Leo Saguisag (Borland) Guest Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Upgrading 7 to 7.1 will most likely get me fired... JSheble wrote: Quote: There are a whole slew of differences... lots & lots & lots & lots... But most of them appear to be the order in which it lists the properties and methods. Without spending too much time on it, it doesn't appear that the declarations themselves are different, they just appear to be in different places in the TLB file. Same COM Object, but the importer is reading it in different order? There could be other changes, but I really don't have the time to study this as in depth as I'd like. Hmmm... I don't know what to say on this one. I didn't think order would be significant but then again I am hardly a COM guru... Have you tried asking around the COM newsgroups? Maybe some of the people who hang out there would have a better understanding of what could be happening... -- Leo Saguisag Delphi l10n engineer Back to top JSheble Guest Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Upgrading 7 to 7.1 will most likely get me fired... I've posted a message there today... guess I'll wait and see... If it is an issue in Delphi, I hope it's corrected before Diamondback is released... "Leo Saguisag (Borland)" <lsaguisag_at_borland_dot_com> wrote Quote: JSheble wrote: There are a whole slew of differences... lots & lots & lots & lots... But most of them appear to be the order in which it lists the properties and methods. Without spending too much time on it, it doesn't appear that the declarations themselves are different, they just appear to be in different places in the TLB file. Same COM Object, but the importer is reading it in different order? There could be other changes, but I really don't have the time to study this as in depth as I'd like. Hmmm... I don't know what to say on this one. I didn't think order would be significant but then again I am hardly a COM guru... Have you tried asking around the COM newsgroups? Maybe some of the people who hang out there would have a better understanding of what could be happening... -- Leo Saguisag Delphi l10n engineer Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Upgrade All times are GMT Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum C++ Builder Newsgroups----------------C++ BuilderC++ Builder (ActiveX)C++ Builder (Announcements)C++ Builder (Command Line Tools)C++ Builder DatabasesC++ Builder Databases (ADO)C++ Builder Databases (Desktop)C++ Builder Databases (InterBase Express)C++ Builder Databases (Multi-Tier)C++ Builder Databases (SQL Servers)C++ Builder (Graphics)C++ Builder (IDE)C++ Builder (Internet)C++ Builder (Internet Socket)C++ Builder (Internet Web)C++ Builder (Jobs)C++ Builder (Language)C++ Builder (Language C++)C++ Builder (Compatibility with MFC)C++ Builder (Native API)C++ Builder (Non-Technical)C++ Builder (Students)C++ Builder (Third Party Tools)C++ Builder (Upgrade)C++ Builder (VCL)C++ Builder (VCL Components Usage)C++ Builder (VCL Components Development)C++ Builder (VCL Usage)C++ Builder (WinAPI)C++ Builder Installation Delphi Newsgroups----------------Delphi (General)Delphi ActiveX Controls UsageDelphi ActiveX Controls DevelopmentDelphi As400Delphi DatabasesDelphi Databases (ADO)Delphi Databases (dbExpress)Delphi Databases (Desktop)Delphi Databases (InterBase Express)Delphi Databases (Multi-Tier)Delphi Databases (SQL Servers)Delphi DeploymentDelphi GraphicsDelphi IDEDelphi InternationalizationDelphi InternetDelphi Internet Isapi-WebBrokerDelphi Internet WebSnapDelphi Internet WinsockDelphi JobsDelphi Language BASMDelphi Language ObjectPascalDelphi Model Driven Architecture (General)Delphi Model Driven Architecture (Third Party)Delphi MultimediaDelphi Native APIDelphi Non-TechnicalDelphi ObjectPascalDelphi OLE AutomationDelphi OO designDelphi OpenToolsAPIDelphi Reporting-ChartingDelphi RTLDelphi StudentsDelphi TeamSourceDelphi Thirdparty ToolsDelphi Thirdparty Tools (General)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb)Delphi Thirdparty Tools (RaveReports)Delphi UpgradeDelphi VCLDelphi VCL ComponentsDelphi VCL Components UsingDelphi VCL Components WritingDelphi WebServices SOAPDelphi WinAPIDelphi XMLDelphi Installationcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.misccomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.usagecomp.lang.pascal.delphi.components.writingcomp.lang.pascal.delphi.databasescomp.lang.pascal.delphi.misccomp.sources.delphi JBuilder Newsgroups----------------JBuilderJBuilder AnnouncementsJBuilder Applet IssuesJBuilder As400JBuilder CompilerJBuilder CORBA/RMIJBuilder DatabasesJBuilder DB SwingJBuilder DebuggerJBuilder DeploymentJBuilder DocumentationJBuilder EnterpriseJBuilder HandheldJBuilder IDEJBuilder JavaJBuilder JavaAPIJBuilder Java LanguageJBuilder Java SwingJBuilder Java BeansJBuilder Java Beans UsageJBuilder Java Beans DevelopmentJBuilder JBCLJBuilder JDataStoreJBuilder JobsJBuilder LinuxJBuilder MacintoshJBuilder & MobileSetJBuilder MultiLingual AppsJBuilder Non-TechnicalJBuilder OpenToolsJBuilder Servlets (JSP)JBuilder StudentsJBuilder Team DevelopmentJBuilder Thirdparty ToolsJBuilder UpgradeJBuilder Installation InterBase Newsgroups----------------InterBaseInterBase Bug DiscussionInterBase GeneralInterBase IBConsoleInterBase OpenSourceInterBase ReplicationInterBase SQLInterBase ThirdpartyInterBase Installation Miscellaneous Borland Newsgroups----------------AppCenterAppServerEnteraVisiBroker  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.