BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  using designIDE is illegal ???          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Deployment View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Guest Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 6:51 pm    Post subject: using designIDE is illegal ??? I got the following information right off of Borlands website. This is what our project used to re-compile D2/D3 applications into D7. Is this illegal?? if so...why??? Note. If you see code where DsgnIntf file is in uses clause of the unit, you will need to remember what in Delphi 7 this file was split in two: DesignEditors, DesignIntf. Also you need to know where this files could be found. When you create your own editors you start to use functionality of Delphi IDE and in this case you have to include DesignIDE.DCP in Requires list for your DPK. You will soon find out what such file doesn't exist. Instead there is only designide70.bpl in "X:Program FilesBorlandDelphi7Bin" folder. Don't worry, file is actually in "X:Program FilesBorlandDelphi7Lib" folder. So, you will need to add it from this location. After this operation you will be able to use IDE design functionality such as editors and ToolAPI. Back to top Ignacio Vazquez Guest Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: using designIDE is illegal ??? <Mike> wrote in message [email]3fabe9d5 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com[/email]... Quote: I got the following information right off of Borlands website. This is what our project used to re-compile D2/D3 applications into D7. Is this illegal?? if so...why??? Using it is not illegal. Redistributing it is. Cheers, Ignacio -- The strange part isn't so much that he had an accent. No accent was detectable. It was just sounds and burbs and gurgles coming from him. He was a like a chubby, old R2-D2. - La Üter Back to top Guest Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: using designIDE is illegal ??? Ok...we don't have any desire to redistribute any of borlands source code. I'm not sure what I said in my previous thread to make anyone think that. -Mike "Ignacio Vazquez" <ivazquezATorioncommunications.com> wrote Quote: Mike> wrote in message [email]3fabe9d5 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com[/email]... I got the following information right off of Borlands website. This is what our project used to re-compile D2/D3 applications into D7. Is this illegal?? if so...why??? Using it is not illegal. Redistributing it is. Cheers, Ignacio -- The strange part isn't so much that he had an accent. No accent was detectable. It was just sounds and burbs and gurgles coming from him. He was a like a chubby, old R2-D2. - La Üter Back to top Ignacio Vazquez Guest Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 8:06 pm    Post subject: Re: using designIDE is illegal ??? <Mike> wrote in message 3fabf8b2$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Ok...we don't have any desire to redistribute any of borlands source code. I'm not sure what I said in my previous thread to make anyone think that. Generally when someone says "application" it refers to something that will be distributed to someone who doesn't have D7 installed on their machine. Since designide70.bpl is one of Delphi's built-in design-time packages it can only be used by someone who has a valid licence for Delphi 7. Cheers, Ignacio -- The strange part isn't so much that he had an accent. No accent was detectable. It was just sounds and burbs and gurgles coming from him. He was a like a chubby, old R2-D2. - La Üter Back to top Guest Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 8:22 pm    Post subject: Re: using designIDE is illegal ??? Here's the situation. We have 4 D7 licenses. 3 for developers and one is used to install D7 on the Test environment. We don't want to install D7 on the Production server because of security issues. Test and Prod are situated at the same site. Are you saying this is illegal? If so...our Navy systems have been running illegally for years. -Mike "Ignacio Vazquez" <ivazquezATorioncommunications.com> wrote Quote: Mike> wrote in message 3fabf8b2$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Ok...we don't have any desire to redistribute any of borlands source code. I'm not sure what I said in my previous thread to make anyone think that. Generally when someone says "application" it refers to something that will be distributed to someone who doesn't have D7 installed on their machine. Since designide70.bpl is one of Delphi's built-in design-time packages it can only be used by someone who has a valid licence for Delphi 7. Cheers, Ignacio -- The strange part isn't so much that he had an accent. No accent was detectable. It was just sounds and burbs and gurgles coming from him. He was a like a chubby, old R2-D2. - La Üter Back to top Ignacio Vazquez Guest Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 8:58 pm    Post subject: Re: using designIDE is illegal ??? <Mike> wrote in message 3fabff01$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Here's the situation. We have 4 D7 licenses. 3 for developers and one is used to install D7 on the Test environment. We don't want to install D7 on the Production server because of security issues. Test and Prod are situated at the same site. Are you saying this is illegal? If so...our Navy systems have been running illegally for years. I don't know if it was illegal in the past, but it might be with D6 and 7, since the package in question can't be used without Delphi. But tell me, why exactly do you require that package for the application? Cheers, Ignacio -- The strange part isn't so much that he had an accent. No accent was detectable. It was just sounds and burbs and gurgles coming from him. He was a like a chubby, old R2-D2. - La Üter Back to top Guest Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: using designIDE is illegal ??? The old dsgnintf is in the uses clause of our custom components. -Mike "Ignacio Vazquez" <ivazquezATorioncommunications.com> wrote Quote: Mike> wrote in message 3fabff01$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Here's the situation. We have 4 D7 licenses. 3 for developers and one is used to install D7 on the Test environment. We don't want to install D7 on the Production server because of security issues. Test and Prod are situated at the same site. Are you saying this is illegal? If so...our Navy systems have been running illegally for years. I don't know if it was illegal in the past, but it might be with D6 and 7, since the package in question can't be used without Delphi. But tell me, why exactly do you require that package for the application? Cheers, Ignacio -- The strange part isn't so much that he had an accent. No accent was detectable. It was just sounds and burbs and gurgles coming from him. He was a like a chubby, old R2-D2. - La Üter Back to top Ignacio Vazquez Guest Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: using designIDE is illegal ??? <Mike> wrote in message 3fac0fbb$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: The old dsgnintf is in the uses clause of our custom components. Ah. Here: http://community.borland.com/article/0,1410,27717,00.html Cheers, Ignacio -- The strange part isn't so much that he had an accent. No accent was detectable. It was just sounds and burbs and gurgles coming from him. He was a like a chubby, old R2-D2. - La Üter Back to top Guest Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:22 pm    Post subject: Re: using designIDE is illegal ??? Thanks!!! I'll give this a shot. -Mike "Ignacio Vazquez" <ivazquezATorioncommunications.com> wrote Quote: Mike> wrote in message 3fac0fbb$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... The old dsgnintf is in the uses clause of our custom components. Ah. Here: http://community.borland.com/article/0,1410,27717,00.html Cheers, Ignacio -- The strange part isn't so much that he had an accent. No accent was detectable. It was just sounds and burbs and gurgles coming from him. He was a like a chubby, old R2-D2. - La Üter Back to top Jeff Overcash (TeamB) Guest Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:59 am    Post subject: Re: using designIDE is illegal ??? Ignacio Vazquez wrote: Quote: Mike> wrote in message 3fabff01$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Here's the situation. We have 4 D7 licenses. 3 for developers and one is used to install D7 on the Test environment. We don't want to install D7 on the Production server because of security issues. Test and Prod are situated at the same site. Are you saying this is illegal? If so...our Navy systems have been running illegally for years. I don't know if it was illegal in the past, but it might be with D6 and 7, since the package in question can't be used without Delphi. Actually it has never been a redistributable. It has always been a violation of the license agreement to use this code at runtime. It was not enforced until D5 (which the dcu's ere not distributed, but the pas files were as a short term solution to people who had stuff in violation). D4 actually had IDE bugs that could only be fixed by breaking the design time interface in a patch. When Borland considered doing this (as they did with D5 SP1) they found out how many people were violating the license agreement. Since it would have broken any apps deployed with packages they had to leave some IDE bugs unfixed due to this. They started the move to enforce the license agreement in D5 and completed this in D6. -- Jeff Overcash (TeamB) (Please do not email me directly unless asked. Thank You) If there is somebody up there could they throw me down a line. Just a little helping hand just a little understanding. Just some answers to the questions that surround me now. If there's somebody up there could they throw me down a line. 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