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I open Snippet137.java, which is in C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\org\eclipse\swt\snippets and try to build the project. JBuilder thinks that Snippet109.java and Snippet7.java are also in this project. The option to remove files from the project is greyed out. How do I make a project with no files in it, and add a file to it? It worked before when I let JBuilder stick everything in its own folders. But I would have to cut and paste instead of adding files because the java file it makes is in a different location. Thanks, Ralph Back to top Paul Nichols (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Re: Using Jbuilder ralph wrote: Quote: I am trying to make an empty project, and add files to it. I make a project called Snippet137, and remove the src and classes from C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\src and C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\classes in the output Just make your project in the path you want it to be in. For instance, most of my projects are in /development/dev/<typeofproject>/<projectname>. So if I were using Windows: C:\development\dev\mywebprograms\awebproject src bak classes <webname> index.jsp WEB-INF classes lib This kind of structure should correct your problems Back to top Paul Nichols (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Using Jbuilder ralph wrote: Quote: "Paul Nichols (TeamB)" <paul (AT) comp (DOT) net> wrote in message news:441e34fd (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... ralph wrote: I am already making the project in C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets JBuilder puts \src and \classes on the end of that for the source and classes output paths. When I don't remove them, everything is ok. When I do, then the above problems happen. Why does JBuilder think that other java files are part of the project before I have done anything? See Lori's comments. BTW, it is very bad practice to use spaces in your java classpath names. You will be sorry, if you want xplatform Back to top ralph Guest Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Using Jbuilder "Paul Nichols (TeamB)" <paul (AT) comp (DOT) net> wrote in message news:441e34fd (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: ralph wrote: I am trying to make an empty project, and add files to it. I make a project called Snippet137, and remove the src and classes from C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\src and C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\classes in the output Just make your project in the path you want it to be in. For instance, most of my projects are in /development/dev/<typeofproject>/<projectname>. So if I were using Windows: C:\development\dev\mywebprograms\awebproject src bak classes webname index.jsp WEB-INF classes lib This kind of structure should correct your problems I am already making the project in C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets JBuilder puts \src and \classes on the end of that for the source and classes output paths. When I don't remove them, everything is ok. When I do, then the above problems happen. Why does JBuilder think that other java files are part of the project before I have done anything? Ralph Back to top Lori M Olson [TeamB] Guest Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:03 am    Post subject: Re: Using Jbuilder ralph wrote: Quote: I am already making the project in C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets JBuilder puts \src and \classes on the end of that for the source and classes output paths. When I don't remove them, everything is ok. When I do, then the above problems happen. Why does JBuilder think that other java files are part of the project before I have done anything? Ralph If you are using JBuilder, you ABSOLUTELY have to keep source and classes in different directories. The main reason for this is that a "clean" (part of the rebuild process) will delete everything in the classes directory. If you source is in there too, you will be very sorry. What "other java files" are you talking about? -- Regards, Lori Olson [TeamB] ------------ Save yourself, and everyone else, some time and search the newsgroups and the FAQ-O-Matic before posting your next question. Google Advanced Newsgroup Search http://www.google.ca/advanced_group_search Other Newsgroup Searches: http://www.borland.com/newsgroups/ngsearch.html Joi Ellis's FAQ-O-Matic: http://www.visi.com/~gyles19/fom-serve/cache/1.html Back to top Bill Joy Guest Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: Using Jbuilder That is not true, the Clean process checks if source and output directories are the same and behaves appropriately. "Lori M Olson [TeamB]" <javadragon (AT) techie (DOT) com> wrote in message news:441f645d$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: If you are using JBuilder, you ABSOLUTELY have to keep source and classes in different directories. The main reason for this is that a "clean" (part of the rebuild process) will delete everything in the classes directory. If you source is in there too, you will be very sorry. Back to top Doychin Bondzhev Guest Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: Using Jbuilder I project properties there is panel where you specify which directories contain your source files. So I think that there is no way to add only one file to your project. Usually java projects have their java files in a source path that is the same like the package path in the java class. So in the project properties you have to add the path which is considered to be the root for java class package. For example in your case you want to separate the java project from source and put your sources in different location. So you have to go to project properties and Paths paget. You will see that there you have some settings you have to adjust in order to achive what you are trying to do. I hope these directions will help you. Doychin ralph wrote: Quote: I am trying to make an empty project, and add files to it. I make a project called Snippet137, and remove the src and classes from C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\src and C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\classes in the output paths. Before, I would let JBuilder stick src and classes on the ends of the paths and then I would have to move the java files into new folders. After making the project, there is no option to add files, like there has been when I have made projects before. I open Snippet137.java, which is in C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\org\eclipse\swt\snippets and try to build the project. JBuilder thinks that Snippet109.java and Snippet7.java are also in this project. The option to remove files from the project is greyed out. How do I make a project with no files in it, and add a file to it? It worked before when I let JBuilder stick everything in its own folders. But I would have to cut and paste instead of adding files because the java file it makes is in a different location. Thanks, Ralph Back to top ralph Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Re: Using Jbuilder "Lori M Olson [TeamB]" <javadragon (AT) techie (DOT) com> wrote in message news:441f645d$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: ralph wrote: I am already making the project in C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets JBuilder puts \src and \classes on the end of that for the source and classes output paths. When I don't remove them, everything is ok. When I do, then the above problems happen. Why does JBuilder think that other java files are part of the project before I have done anything? Ralph If you are using JBuilder, you ABSOLUTELY have to keep source and classes in different directories. The main reason for this is that a "clean" (part of the rebuild process) will delete everything in the classes directory. If you source is in there too, you will be very sorry. What "other java files" are you talking about? -- Regards, Lori Olson [TeamB] Actually, I made a mistake, it was /src and /test that I was removing, I left the /classes on. Why does JBuilder think that other java files in C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\org\eclipse\swt\snippets are part of the project. Is it actually building some other projects I have that have these files in them? So, how do I use java files I already have without letting JBuilder make a new file in ....\src\org\eclipse\swt\snippets, then opening the old Java file from \org\eclipse\swt\snippets in Wordpad, then copy and paste into the new java file? In Kawa, you just make a project at the top of the package directory structure, then add the file. No pasting required. Ralph Quote: ------------ Save yourself, and everyone else, some time and search the newsgroups and the FAQ-O-Matic before posting your next question. Google Advanced Newsgroup Search http://www.google.ca/advanced_group_search Other Newsgroup Searches: http://www.borland.com/newsgroups/ngsearch.html Joi Ellis's FAQ-O-Matic: http://www.visi.com/~gyles19/fom-serve/cache/1.html Back to top ralph Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Re: Using Jbuilder Just looked at snippet137.jpx.local and it has only Snippet137.java in it, so why does it detect the error in Snippet109.java? "ralph" <vralphv (AT) yahooTHIS (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4420a877$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: I did an experiment. First, I looked at the .jpx file, no mention there of which files are part of the project. Then, before rebuilding a project I thought had only Snippet137.java in it, I introduced an error into Snippet109.java, which was also in the same folder. src\org\eclipse\swt\snippets. I got an error. So you have to separate all your files from each other. In Kawa, you dont have to do this. Ralph "Doychin Bondzhev" <doychin@dsoft-bg.com> wrote in message news:441fa140$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... I project properties there is panel where you specify which directories contain your source files. So I think that there is no way to add only one file to your project. Usually java projects have their java files in a source path that is the same like the package path in the java class. So in the project properties you have to add the path which is considered to be the root for java class package. For example in your case you want to separate the java project from source and put your sources in different location. So you have to go to project properties and Paths paget. You will see that there you have some settings you have to adjust in order to achive what you are trying to do. I hope these directions will help you. Doychin ralph wrote: I am trying to make an empty project, and add files to it. I make a project called Snippet137, and remove the src and classes from C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\src and C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\classes in the output paths. Before, I would let JBuilder stick src and classes on the ends of the paths and then I would have to move the java files into new folders. After making the project, there is no option to add files, like there has been when I have made projects before. I open Snippet137.java, which is in C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\org\eclipse\swt\snippets and try to build the project. JBuilder thinks that Snippet109.java and Snippet7.java are also in this project. The option to remove files from the project is greyed out. How do I make a project with no files in it, and add a file to it? It worked before when I let JBuilder stick everything in its own folders. But I would have to cut and paste instead of adding files because the java file it makes is in a different location. Thanks, Ralph Back to top ralph Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Re: Using Jbuilder I did an experiment. First, I looked at the .jpx file, no mention there of which files are part of the project. Then, before rebuilding a project I thought had only Snippet137.java in it, I introduced an error into Snippet109.java, which was also in the same folder. src\org\eclipse\swt\snippets. I got an error. So you have to separate all your files from each other. In Kawa, you dont have to do this. Ralph "Doychin Bondzhev" <doychin@dsoft-bg.com> wrote in message news:441fa140$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: I project properties there is panel where you specify which directories contain your source files. So I think that there is no way to add only one file to your project. Usually java projects have their java files in a source path that is the same like the package path in the java class. So in the project properties you have to add the path which is considered to be the root for java class package. For example in your case you want to separate the java project from source and put your sources in different location. So you have to go to project properties and Paths paget. You will see that there you have some settings you have to adjust in order to achive what you are trying to do. I hope these directions will help you. Doychin ralph wrote: I am trying to make an empty project, and add files to it. I make a project called Snippet137, and remove the src and classes from C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\src and C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\classes in the output paths. Before, I would let JBuilder stick src and classes on the ends of the paths and then I would have to move the java files into new folders. After making the project, there is no option to add files, like there has been when I have made projects before. I open Snippet137.java, which is in C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\org\eclipse\swt\snippets and try to build the project. JBuilder thinks that Snippet109.java and Snippet7.java are also in this project. The option to remove files from the project is greyed out. How do I make a project with no files in it, and add a file to it? It worked before when I let JBuilder stick everything in its own folders. But I would have to cut and paste instead of adding files because the java file it makes is in a different location. Thanks, Ralph Back to top Lori M Olson [TeamB] Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: Using Jbuilder ralph wrote: Quote: Just looked at snippet137.jpx.local and it has only Snippet137.java in it, so why does it detect the error in Snippet109.java? It is called Automatic Source Discovery (ASD). It is a project property. Turn it off if you want to. -- Regards, Lori Olson [TeamB] ------------ Save yourself, and everyone else, some time and search the newsgroups and the FAQ-O-Matic before posting your next question. Google Advanced Newsgroup Search http://www.google.ca/advanced_group_search Other Newsgroup Searches: http://www.borland.com/newsgroups/ngsearch.html Joi Ellis's FAQ-O-Matic: http://www.visi.com/~gyles19/fom-serve/cache/1.html Back to top Paul Furbacher [TeamB] Guest Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: Using Jbuilder ralph wrote: Quote: [...] So, how do I use java files I already have without letting JBuilder make a new file in ...\src\org\eclipse\swt\snippets, then opening the old Java file from \org\eclipse\swt\snippets in Wordpad, then copy and paste into the new java file? In Kawa, you just make a project at the top of the package directory structure, then add the file. No pasting required. Hate to ask this, but have you read the built-in JBuilder Help on project management? It would be a good idea to do that before proceeding much further. Simply put, all IDEs have a sense of a project directory and source directories. Eclipse is no different from JBuilder is not really different from NetBeans, and so on. In JBuilder (see the documentation and numerous discussions in the archives of these newsgroups), the typical structure is d:/<path-to-project-dir>/project_dir /bak /classes /doc /src /test .... Now, it seems as though you have somehow inherited an example, or started editing a set of Java files in some other environment. That's all well and good. However, if you are going to use JBuilder, you should a) read the manual and b) follow the directory structure it advises you to use. Could you possibly try the following? 1. create a new project in c:/projects/java/snippets (By default, JBuilder will expect your Java source files to be in c:/projects/java/snippets/src. You don't have to do anything with regard to telling JBuilder that. Just accept the defaults it gives you once you define the new project's root directory.) 2. using your file system browser (that is, "Explorer" on Windows, "Finder" on OS X, and who knows what on Linux), create a "src" folder in c:/projects/java/snippets so that you have c:/projects/java/snippets/src (Normally, JBuilder will make this directory and any other resource directory in a "lazy" fashion. That is, these directories -- /bak, /doc, /classes, /src and /test -- are only created when JBuilder creates something to put into them. E.g., the /src dir will only be made when you use a "New Java class" Wizard to create a new class; /bak will only be created when you make changes to your Java source code and save those changes. Since you have not yet made a new Java source code file, the /src folder has not been made. Proceed.) 3. still using the file system browser of your OS, move your existing SnippetXXX.java files currently in C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets to c:/projects/java/snippets/src Java has a clear definition of packages. It has a clear notion that packages coincide with file system or logical (e.g., in JAR file) directories. It would seem that given your quoted directory paths org\eclipse\swt\snippets that you have indeed specified a package package org.eclipse.swt.snippets; in your SnippetXXX.java files. If that's the case, amend the path in step 3: move those SnippetXXX.java files to c:/projects/java/snippets/src/org/eclipse/swt/snippets As others have noted in this thread, if you have any Java source files on the source path, JBuilder will compile them. That's what is meant by "project". If those other files aren't meant to be compiled, either move them to a separate project, or move them via refactoring to another package, right-click on that new package node in the Project Pane and select "Apply Filter... > Exclude Package". (I'd refrain from regularly using the latter technique.) But, before proceeding, read up on Java packages (Google is your friend as are good books on core Java concepts), and be sure to read the JBuilder Help manual on creating projects. -- Paul Furbacher (TeamB) Save time, search the archives: http://info.borland.com/newsgroups/ngsearch.html Is it in Joi Ellis's Faq-O-Matic? http://www.visi.com/~gyles19/fom-serve/cache/1.html Finally, please send responses to the newsgroup only. That means, do not send email directly to me. Thank you. Back to top ralph Guest Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Re: Using Jbuilder "Lori M Olson [TeamB]" <javadragon (AT) techie (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4420cebc (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: ralph wrote: Just looked at snippet137.jpx.local and it has only Snippet137.java in it, so why does it detect the error in Snippet109.java? It is called Automatic Source Discovery (ASD). It is a project property. Turn it off if you want to. This sounded like a good idea. I turned it off and then tried to make a project with Snippet14.java in it Snippet14.java is in C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\org\eclipse\swt\snippets\ I removed the src from the source output path that JBuilder wanted to make. The Help on projects implies that you can change things like that. I got "Snippet109.java": Package C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\src\org\eclipse\swt\snippets\Snippet109.java stated in source org.eclipse.swt.snippets does not match directory C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\src\org\eclipse\swt\snippets\Snippet109.java. at line 11, column 25 "Snippet109.java": Duplicate definition of class org.eclipse.swt.snippets.Snippet109, defined in C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\org\eclipse\swt\snippets\Snippet109.java and also defined in C:\Documents and Settings\MDG User\My Documents\javastuf\snippets\src\org\eclipse\swt\snippets\Snippet109.java. So it is still discovering the other Snippets. I think I will just make one project, allow JBuilder to stick 'src' in the path, then move a large number of snippets into the folder Ralph Quote: -- Regards, Lori Olson [TeamB] ------------ Save yourself, and everyone else, some time and search the newsgroups and the FAQ-O-Matic before posting your next question. Google Advanced Newsgroup Search http://www.google.ca/advanced_group_search Other Newsgroup Searches: http://www.borland.com/newsgroups/ngsearch.html Joi Ellis's FAQ-O-Matic: http://www.visi.com/~gyles19/fom-serve/cache/1.html Back to top ralph Guest Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Re: Using Jbuilder Quote: So it is still discovering the other Snippets. I think I will just make one project, allow JBuilder to stick 'src' in the path, then move a large number of snippets into the folder Didn't even do that. I just opened a previous project, opened any snippet file, made the snippet, then ran it, no problems The project has all the snippets in it. 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