BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  VCL and VCL.NET Goto page 1, 2  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Digby Millikan Guest Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 11:21 am    Post subject: VCL and VCL.NET Whats the different between a Win32 compiler and a .NET compiler do the controls look different or does the compiler just compile the code differently. Back to top Remy Lebeau (TeamB) Guest Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: VCL and VCL.NET "Digby Millikan" <digbym (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote Quote: Whats the different between a Win32 compiler and a .NET compiler Win32 and .NET are completely different architectures, different platforms, different APIs. The difference in the *compilers* is that they do produce different output code to run under each platform, depending on what you are actually compiling for. Gambit Back to top Edward Diener Guest Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:59 pm    Post subject: Re: VCL and VCL.NET Digby Millikan wrote: Quote: Whats the different between a Win32 compiler and a .NET compiler do the controls look different or does the compiler just compile the code differently. The programming is different, but the end result looks the same. Win32 is purely a procedural programming paradigm. ..NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator, component-based OOP programming paradigm. wxWindows is an OOP programming paradigm, but there is no RAD, little visual design, no visual object manipulator, and no components, although of course there is a class framework. Back to top Digby Millikan Guest Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: VCL and VCL.NET Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email address instead of the newsgroup sever (: "Edward Diener" <eddielee (AT) tropicsoft (DOT) com> wrote Quote: .NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator, component-based OOP programming paradigm. Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows? Back to top Edward Diener Guest Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: VCL and VCL.NET Digby Millikan wrote: Quote: Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email address instead of the newsgroup sever (: "Edward Diener" <eddielee (AT) tropicsoft (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3fac23cd (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... .NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator, component-based OOP programming paradigm. Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows? They are. One of the promises is .NET Managed C++ with VCL support and .NET VCL classes. They already have a .NET Delphi. But they are touting wxWindows for cross-platform programming. Back to top Digby Millikan Guest Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: VCL and VCL.NET Edward, Is this for CBX? Digby "Edward Diener" <eddielee (AT) tropicsoft (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Digby Millikan wrote: Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email address instead of the newsgroup sever (: "Edward Diener" <eddielee (AT) tropicsoft (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3fac23cd (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... .NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator, component-based OOP programming paradigm. Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows? They are. One of the promises is .NET Managed C++ with VCL support and ..NET VCL classes. They already have a .NET Delphi. But they are touting wxWindows for cross-platform programming. Back to top Edward Diener Guest Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 7:07 pm    Post subject: Re: VCL and VCL.NET Digby Millikan wrote: Quote: Edward, Is this for CBX? Not now, but it is supposed to be in the future. Borland has given their usual promises, and we wait to see if and when they will be fulfilled. CBX, in the future, is supposed to support managed C++ ..NET, cross-platform wxWindows, and BCB RAD + VCL. What it will actually support I don't think anyone knows for sure outside of Borland. The way this whole situation with CBX has been handled is a fiasco. Why Borland is still so asleep concerning C++ is beyond even Nostradamus' guess. But since supposedly they are being profitable, I don't think they really care. I don't take much of anything corporations say seriously anymore. I have now been out of work for two years and three months, and I can honestly say that I have been lied to by nearly every company, corporation, agency, and business with which I have had any contact during that time. I am sure there are some honest business people out there, but it has been next to impossible finding any. Quote: Digby "Edward Diener" <eddielee (AT) tropicsoft (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3fad37b9$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Digby Millikan wrote: Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email address instead of the newsgroup sever (: "Edward Diener" <eddielee (AT) tropicsoft (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3fac23cd (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... .NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator, component-based OOP programming paradigm. Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows? They are. One of the promises is .NET Managed C++ with VCL support and .NET VCL classes. They already have a .NET Delphi. But they are touting wxWindows for cross-platform programming. Back to top Digby Millikan Guest Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: VCL and VCL.NET What do you program in now? Are you developing your own projects? Digby Millikan "Edward Diener" <eddielee (AT) tropicsoft (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Digby Millikan wrote: Edward, Is this for CBX? Not now, but it is supposed to be in the future. Borland has given their usual promises, and we wait to see if and when they will be fulfilled. CBX, in the future, is supposed to support managed C++ .NET, cross-platform wxWindows, and BCB RAD + VCL. What it will actually support I don't think anyone knows for sure outside of Borland. The way this whole situation with CBX has been handled is a fiasco. Why Borland is still so asleep concerning C++ is beyond even Nostradamus' guess. But since supposedly they are being profitable, I don't think they really care. I don't take much of anything corporations say seriously anymore. I have now been out of work for two years and three months, and I can honestly say that I have been lied to by nearly every company, corporation, agency, and business with which I have had any contact during that time. I am sure there are some honest business people out there, but it has been next to impossible finding any. Digby "Edward Diener" <eddielee (AT) tropicsoft (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3fad37b9$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Digby Millikan wrote: Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email address instead of the newsgroup sever (: "Edward Diener" <eddielee (AT) tropicsoft (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3fac23cd (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... .NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator, component-based OOP programming paradigm. Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows? They are. One of the promises is .NET Managed C++ with VCL support and .NET VCL classes. They already have a .NET Delphi. But they are touting wxWindows for cross-platform programming. Back to top Ed Mulroy [TeamB] Guest Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: VCL and VCL.NET Quote: Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows? http://www.borland.com/csharpbuilder/ .. Ed Quote: Digby Millikan wrote in message news:3fad2801 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Back to top Edward Diener Guest Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: VCL and VCL.NET Digby Millikan wrote: Quote: What do you program in now? Are you developing your own projects? I program in C++, C#, and Java. I have things I am working on, some C++ Builder components which I am also implementing on .NET in managed C++. I may not release them for C++ Builder now that Borland has squashed its future but I will focus on a .NET release. The components can also be JavaBeans so I am working on that also. Almost all my personal projects are re-usable components. I have some free ones at http://www.tropicsoft.com/Components/RegularExpression , but all other future components will be products at low prices. That is if I can survive as a programmer, which looks more and more doubtful. If I could find another profession which would enable me to find a decent job, I would, and only program at nights and on weekends. But even the latter has been impossible. Quote: Digby Millikan "Edward Diener" <eddielee (AT) tropicsoft (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3fad3ed8$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Digby Millikan wrote: Edward, Is this for CBX? Not now, but it is supposed to be in the future. Borland has given their usual promises, and we wait to see if and when they will be fulfilled. CBX, in the future, is supposed to support managed C++ .NET, cross-platform wxWindows, and BCB RAD + VCL. What it will actually support I don't think anyone knows for sure outside of Borland. The way this whole situation with CBX has been handled is a fiasco. Why Borland is still so asleep concerning C++ is beyond even Nostradamus' guess. But since supposedly they are being profitable, I don't think they really care. I don't take much of anything corporations say seriously anymore. I have now been out of work for two years and three months, and I can honestly say that I have been lied to by nearly every company, corporation, agency, and business with which I have had any contact during that time. I am sure there are some honest business people out there, but it has been next to impossible finding any. Digby "Edward Diener" <eddielee (AT) tropicsoft (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3fad37b9$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Digby Millikan wrote: Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email address instead of the newsgroup sever (: "Edward Diener" <eddielee (AT) tropicsoft (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3fac23cd (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... .NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator, component-based OOP programming paradigm. Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows? They are. One of the promises is .NET Managed C++ with VCL support and .NET VCL classes. They already have a .NET Delphi. But they are touting wxWindows for cross-platform programming. Back to top Digby Millikan Guest Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: VCL and VCL.NET I am a mining engineer and am getting too old and sick of moving around and living in the outback, there is limited employment oppurtunities in my home city so I've taken up mine software development, but have a digitiser and plotter so am able to offer basic digitising and plotting services in addition to the supply of software. My plan is to sell a single software package designed from the ground up to compete with with larger packages on the market supplied by major software houses. Back to top jblogs Guest Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 11:20 pm    Post subject: Re: VCL and VCL.NET Does wxWindows support .NET? Edward Diener wrote: Quote: Digby Millikan wrote: Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email address instead of the newsgroup sever (: "Edward Diener" <eddielee (AT) tropicsoft (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3fac23cd (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... .NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator, component-based OOP programming paradigm. Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows? They are. One of the promises is .NET Managed C++ with VCL support and .NET VCL classes. They already have a .NET Delphi. But they are touting wxWindows for cross-platform programming. Back to top jblogs Guest Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 11:20 pm    Post subject: Re: VCL and VCL.NET Does wxWindows support .NET? Edward Diener wrote: Quote: Digby Millikan wrote: Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email address instead of the newsgroup sever (: "Edward Diener" <eddielee (AT) tropicsoft (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3fac23cd (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... .NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator, component-based OOP programming paradigm. Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows? They are. One of the promises is .NET Managed C++ with VCL support and .NET VCL classes. They already have a .NET Delphi. But they are touting wxWindows for cross-platform programming. Back to top jblogs Guest Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: VCL and VCL.NET Does wxWindows support .NET? Edward Diener wrote: Quote: Digby Millikan wrote: Sorry Ed, thanks for the reply I sent my last post to your email address instead of the newsgroup sever (: "Edward Diener" <eddielee (AT) tropicsoft (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3fac23cd (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... .NET, like the VCL, is a RAD, visual designer/object manipulator, component-based OOP programming paradigm. Why doesn't Borland go for .NET RAD instead of wxWindows? They are. One of the promises is .NET Managed C++ with VCL support and .NET VCL classes. They already have a .NET Delphi. But they are touting wxWindows for cross-platform programming. Back to top Marcelo R. Lopez, Jr. Guest Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: VCL and VCL.NET Ed......get real....C#Builder 1.0 was, and is, still a BETA in a Released Products fleece. There were so many bugs that within 2 weeks of it's release, update 1 was released. "Ed Mulroy [TeamB]" <dont_email_me (AT) bitbuc (DOT) ket> wrote Quote: http://www.borland.com/csharpbuilder/ . 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