BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Paul Nichols (TeamB) Guest Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! Joseph Mele wrote: Quote: http://dev.mainsoft.com/Default.aspx?tabid=130 A bad ass locust if you ask me! Hmm, interesting, but I wonder, if you need Java and the xplatform capabilities of Java, why not just write it in Java? Back to top Joseph Mele Guest Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:56 pm    Post subject: We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! http://dev.mainsoft.com/Default.aspx?tabid=130 A bad ass locust if you ask me! Back to top John Kaster (Borland) Guest Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:05 am    Post subject: Re: We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! Joseph Mele wrote: Quote: A bad ass locust if you ask me! Interesting. I'd heard this idea being discussed for a while. Cool someone has implemented it. Thanks for the link. -- John Kaster http://blogs.borland.com/johnk Features and bugs: http://qc.borland.com Get source: http://cc.borland.com If it's not here, it's not happening: http://ec.borland.com Back to top Venkatesh VT Guest Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:37 am    Post subject: Re: We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! Any similar plug in for Delphi in the offing? Venkatesh Back to top John Kaster (Borland) Guest Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:49 am    Post subject: Re: We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! Venkatesh VT wrote: Quote: Any similar plug in for Delphi in the offing? We're not working on this right now. We offer interop in different ways, and it will be up at a higher level than this in the future. -- John Kaster http://blogs.borland.com/johnk Features and bugs: http://qc.borland.com Get source: http://cc.borland.com If it's not here, it's not happening: http://ec.borland.com Back to top Jacob Thurman Guest Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 4:18 am    Post subject: Re: We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! Quote: http://dev.mainsoft.com/Default.aspx?tabid=130 Maybe I don't quite understand what's going on here, but if this is an MSIL to Java Bytecode compiler, then wouldn't it be able to convert the binaries output by Delphi for .NET? Is it just a matter of making an IDE plugin (or standalone binaries) to get rid of the Visual Studio dependiences? --Jacob Back to top Paul Nichols (TeamB) Guest Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:21 am    Post subject: Re: We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! "Oliver Townshend" <oliveratzipdotcomdotau> wrote: Quote: Would be cool to write in Delphi and make it produce JVM code. But wouldn't you have to follow the Java object model? Its tied in with everything you do. It would be like trying to write Delphi using Java without having the VCL. Oliver Townshend No more difficult than writing a 100% compatible, MSIL, VCL.NET. Some people forget that Java the platform has many other languages than Java the language, that can be used to write to the underlying JVM bytecode patterns (even Component Pascal). Of course, you have to follow the bytecode patterns, much as you must do with the Intermediate language in Net. I agree with Rudy, however. I do not know how profitable it would be for Borland to make a Delphi.Java. Might make a good Open Source project though. Overall, new platforms seem to center around a common language. Back to top Venkatesh VT Guest Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:33 am    Post subject: Re: We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! What ever is being developed by Borland should be released soon since otherwise Chrome will steal a big march over Delphi in Cross platform applications What product it will be i.e Delphi+ECO+ASP.NETt+MS Windows+Linux(with Kylix)+(May be MAC) Venkatesh "John Kaster (Borland)" <johnk (AT) borland (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Any similar plug in for Delphi in the offing? We're not working on this right now. We offer interop in different ways, and it will be up at a higher level than this in the future. not happening: Back to top John Kaster (Borland) Guest Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! Venkatesh VT wrote: Quote: Delphi+ECO+ASP.NETt+MS Windows+Linux It will be up at a level higher than this. -- John Kaster http://blogs.borland.com/johnk Features and bugs: http://qc.borland.com Get source: http://cc.borland.com If it's not here, it's not happening: http://ec.borland.com Back to top Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] Guest Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:42 am    Post subject: Re: We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! At 17:23:26, 20.08.2005, Paul Nichols (TeamB) wrote: Quote: Joseph Mele wrote: http://dev.mainsoft.com/Default.aspx?tabid=130 A bad ass locust if you ask me! Hmm, interesting, but I wonder, if you need Java and the xplatform capabilities of Java, why not just write it in Java? Would be cool to write in Delphi and make it produce JVM code. -- Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] http://velthuis.homepage.t-online.de "Men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all the other alternatives." - Abba Eban (1915-2002) Back to top Oliver Townshend Guest Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! Quote: Would be cool to write in Delphi and make it produce JVM code. But wouldn't you have to follow the Java object model? Its tied in with everything you do. It would be like trying to write Delphi using Java without having the VCL. Oliver Townshend Back to top Peter Morris [Droopy eyes Guest Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! Quote: Maybe I don't quite understand what's going on here, but if this is an MSIL to Java Bytecode compiler, then wouldn't it be able to convert the binaries output by Delphi for .NET? I would guess that the limitation is legal rather than technical. They use the mono assemblies for the .net framework, so that is how the supporting libraries are workable. The Borland.*.dll have no similar open-source assemblies, and it would probably be illegal to convert them into Java due to copyright reasons. -- Pete ==== ECO Modeler, Audio compression components, DIB graphics controls, FastStrings http://www.droopyeyes.com Read or write articles on just about anything http://www.HowToDoThings.com My blog http://blogs.slcdug.org/petermorris/ Back to top Just Wondering Guest Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! If you're implying a code generator that generates code for different platforms from the same "source", then I think that's a great idea. The big question is, "Is it affordable for the MicroISV?" IANAE (I Am Not An Enterprise) Harry "John Kaster (Borland)" <johnk (AT) borland (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Venkatesh VT wrote: Delphi+ECO+ASP.NETt+MS Windows+Linux It will be up at a level higher than this. -- John Kaster http://blogs.borland.com/johnk Features and bugs: http://qc.borland.com Get source: http://cc.borland.com If it's not here, it's not happening: http://ec.borland.com Back to top John Kaster (Borland) Guest Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! Just Wondering wrote: Quote: If you're implying a code generator that generates code for different platforms from the same "source", then I think that's a great idea. I'm talking about MDA. The CIM, PIM, PSM levels, and source code generation. Together 2006 already supports the proposed QVT standard as well. See http://www.omg.org/mda/ for further information (for now). Additional information on Together 2006 will be posted in September on BDN. -- John Kaster http://blogs.borland.com/johnk Features and bugs: http://qc.borland.com Get source: http://cc.borland.com If it's not here, it's not happening: http://ec.borland.com Back to top John Kaster (Borland) Guest Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 4:13 pm    Post subject: Re: We need Grasshopper for Delphi!! Rudy Velthuis [TeamB] wrote: Quote: Would be cool to write in Delphi and make it produce JVM code. 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