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David Ray
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:53 pm    Post subject: Web-based System Reply with quote



I'm thinking of a project that would be web-enabled such that users can
enter data through EITHER a client program that runs on their PC or through
a web-browser.

This is a simple application that hopefully would not take long to write;
the tables are simple and the relationships are, as well. But I've never
written any kind of "web-enabled" application, so I really don't know where
to start. Most recently, I've been developing with BCB6 but could use
something else if I needed to.

Would someone here be able to point me to a resource that might help me get
off the ground quickly with this?

TIA

David


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Hans Galema
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Web-based System Reply with quote



David Ray wrote:
Quote:
I'm thinking of a project that would be web-enabled such that users can
enter data through EITHER a client program that runs on their PC or through
a web-browser.

Then you have to write at least three programs. A server, a gui-client and
a cgi-client. The cgi-client is started by a webserver upon requests
of a webbrowser.

Quote:
This is a simple application that hopefully would not take long to write;

Simple ? And three instead of one application ?

Quote:
the tables are simple and the relationships are, as well. But I've never
written any kind of "web-enabled" application, so I really don't know where
to start.

I do not know what ideas you have for a program to be 'web-enabled'.
But if your server and the gui-client communicate using sockets
and your own protocol, then the sever could be web-enabled already. Just
write a cgi-client that uses the same protocol.

So you did not write "web-enabled" applications.
Did you write web-applications ?
Did you write cgi programs ?
Do you know html and how to generate it ?
Can you manage communication using sockets ? For instance
using TServerSocket and TCientSocket ?

On which point do you need help ?

Hans.

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Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Web-based System Reply with quote



"David Ray" <david (AT) timecalc (DOT) com> wrote in news:427fb17a$1
@newsgroups.borland.com:
Quote:
Would someone here be able to point me to a resource that might help me get
off the ground quickly with this?

http://www.atozed.com/IntraWeb

Works fine with CB6, and you can deploy it on a users machine, or run it via
web.


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"Programming is an art form that fights back"

Web Development causing you headaches?
Find relief at http://www.atozed.com/IntraWeb/

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Remy Lebeau (TeamB)
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Web-based System Reply with quote


"Hans Galema" <notused (AT) notused (DOT) nl> wrote


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Then you have to write at least three programs.

Not necessarily. CGI is not a requirement. The webserver can do the
requested work directly. And incidently, even if you want to use CGI, you
don't need to write a program for it. Just install the Perl engine from
http://www.perl.com and then shell out to it when needed.

Quote:
I do not know what ideas you have for a program to be 'web-enabled'.
But if your server and the gui-client communicate using sockets and your
own protocol, then the sever could be web-enabled already.

Only if HTTP were being used for that protocol to begin with.


Gambit



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Hans Galema
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 9:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Web-based System Reply with quote

Remy Lebeau (TeamB) wrote:

Quote:
Then you have to write at least three programs.

Not necessarily. CGI is not a requirement. The webserver can do the
requested work directly.

Ok. Three layers then.

Quote:
And incidently, even if you want to use CGI, you
don't need to write a program for it. Just install the Perl engine from
http://www.perl.com and then shell out to it when needed.

That would be three programs then.

Quote:
I do not know what ideas you have for a program to be 'web-enabled'.
But if your server and the gui-client communicate using sockets and your
own protocol, then the sever could be web-enabled already.

Only if HTTP were being used for that protocol to begin with.

Not needed.
HTTP for browser<->webserver.
CGI for webserver<->cgiapplication.
Own protocol for cgiapplication<->server. (The same as server<->guiclient).

What I meant was "web-enabling the server" by writing a cgiclient for it.

But the intention of my reply was to make it clear to David that
a lot of aspects had to be considered and to invite him to
express his needs more to the point.

Hans.

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Chad Z. Hower aka Kudzu
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: Web-based System Reply with quote

Hans Galema <notused (AT) notused (DOT) nl> wrote in
news:427fbf31$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com:
Quote:
I'm thinking of a project that would be web-enabled such that users can
enter data through EITHER a client program that runs on their PC or
through a web-browser.

Then you have to write at least three programs. A server, a gui-client
and a cgi-client. The cgi-client is started by a webserver upon requests
of a webbrowser.

With IntraWeb he can make just one. It can run on the server and be accessed
remotely by a web browser, or it can run localy (Standalone deployment) on
the users machine and be accesed by a local browser. Witih umPartial and
other you can get quite close to a real windows forms experience.


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Chad Z. Hower (a.k.a. Kudzu) - http://www.hower.org/Kudzu/
"Programming is an art form that fights back"

Build Web Applications just like normal Delphi applications
with IntraWeb for Delphi 5, 6, 7, Kylix, C++ Builder 5, 6 and Java

http://www.atozed.com/IntraWeb/

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