BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  What happened? Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Peter Zolja Guest Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 2:45 pm    Post subject: What happened? "[...] Many an eyebrow was raised to ponder how a $49 compiler from an unknown upstart could run 10 times faster than $400 compilers made by the pros. Even more eyebrows went up when it was discovered that the upstart company was making a bundle - more than the pros, it seems - by selling at a low price in high volume." (Danny Thorpe - Delphi Component Design, p4) What happened? (I'm referring to the strategy) Back to top Ben Hochstrasser [FF] Guest Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: What happened? Peter Zolja wrote: Quote: What happened? (I'm referring to the strategy) Then they hired a marketeer. <g> -- Ben Back to top Knarf Appaz Guest Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: What happened? Frank Andreas de Groot wrote: Quote: "Captain Jake" <johnj[nospam]@comcast.net> wrote What happened? (I'm referring to the strategy) The upstart became the pro. The story is familiar: Borland is like a boxer who emerged from the streets, from the ghetto, had to fight hard and became world champion and then became fat and lazy and mismanaged by his managers. Please don't forget: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Frank+Andreas+de+Groot&start=170&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=3e80f33a%241%40newsgroups.borland.com&rnum=172 Back to top Ross Guest Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: What happened? Why bring this up here? It is inappropriate to the conversation and inappropriate to the newsgroup. Ross Back to top Alan Garny Guest Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: What happened? "Knarf Appaz" <i (AT) sparky (DOT) dpn> wrote Quote: Frank Andreas de Groot wrote: "Captain Jake" <johnj[nospam]@comcast.net> wrote What happened? (I'm referring to the strategy) The upstart became the pro. The story is familiar: Borland is like a boxer who emerged from the streets, from the ghetto, had to fight hard and became world champion and then became fat and lazy and mismanaged by his managers. Please don't forget: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Frank+Andreas+de+Groot&start=170&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=3e80f33a%241%40newsgroups.borland.com&rnum=172 And your point is?... Yawn... Back to top John Elrick Guest Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: What happened? "Knarf Appaz" <i (AT) sparky (DOT) dpn> wrote Quote: Frank Andreas de Groot wrote: SNIP Quote: Please don't forget: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Frank+Andreas+de+Groot&start=170&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=3e80f33a%241%40newsgroups.borland.com&rnum=172 I can see why this post was cancelled as it was fully off topic. And I disagree strongly with the contents that Frank Andreas de Groot wrote in it. Never the less, that has NOTHING to do with what Frank posted in this thread. John Back to top F.F Guest Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: What happened? "Captain Jake" <johnj[nospam]@comcast.net> , wrote these words of incredible wisdom: Quote: What happened? (I'm referring to the strategy) The upstart became the pro. The upstart grew up. The customers expectations increased. Cost of development went up exponentially. Incompetent management and marketing did not help. If you want to see the current equivalent of the upstart, look at some of the apps made with Ocaml, using LablGtk as the crossplatform gui builder. Of course, it is much harder to use than Delphi. Back to top F.F Guest Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:56 pm    Post subject: Re: What happened? "Alan Garny" <someone (AT) somewhere (DOT) com> , wrote these words of incredible wisdom: Quote: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Frank+Andreas+de+Groot&start=170&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=3e80f33a%241%40newsgroups.borland.com&rnum=172 How dreadful ! Frank said , "I hope the US will learn a lesson they will never forget" ! Frank is a sensible Norwegian. Did you expect him to dance to the tune of American fantasies ? Good for you Frank ! ( Although I do not agree with everything in your message, I agree with the gist of it) Back to top John Herbster (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: What happened? Things started to get off topic in this thread about here. You guys should have carried it to b.p.o-t on your own. Follow-up set to b.p.o-t -- Regards, JohnH (TeamB) Newsgroup list & guidelines http://info.borland.com/newsgroups/ Back to top Frank Andreas de Groot Guest Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 11:02 pm    Post subject: Re: What happened? "F.F" <fundamentally_flawed (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Frank is a sensible Norwegian. Did you expect him to dance to the tune of American fantasies ? I am a wannabe-Norwegian. I am Dutch and I have a Dutch temperament, I only *live* here. Back to top William Meyer Guest Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 11:15 pm    Post subject: Re: What happened? On 25-Aug-03, F.F said: Quote: Must be an Al Qaeda operative or even worse, a Bush supporter. At least you've chosen your newsgroup handle most appropriately. -- Bill -------- "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson Back to top William Meyer Guest Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 11:15 pm    Post subject: Re: What happened? On 25-Aug-03, F.F said: Quote: How dreadful ! Frank said , "I hope the US will learn a lesson they will never forget" ! Frank is a sensible Norwegian. Did you expect him to dance to the tune of American fantasies ? Good for you Frank ! ( Although I do not agree with everything in your message, I agree with the gist of it) Way off topic here. -- Bill -------- "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson Back to top Lauchlan M Guest Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 11:40 pm    Post subject: Re: What happened? Quote: The story is familiar: Borland is like a boxer who emerged from the streets, from the ghetto, had to fight hard and became world champion and then became fat and lazy and mismanaged by his managers. <g>. What an image. Lauchlan M Back to top Peter Zolja Guest Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:08 am    Post subject: Re: What happened? Quote: The upstart grew up. The customers expectations increased. Cost of development went up exponentially. Why is that? Quote: Incompetent management and marketing did not help. Yeah, but if you sell 1,000 pieces at $100 instead of 100 pieces at $1,000 you may end up with the same price, but think about the future when those 1,000 will become 2,000 while the 100 will struggle to save the $1,000 for the next version... Quote: If you want to see the current equivalent of the upstart, look at some of the apps made with Ocaml, using LablGtk as the crossplatform gui builder. Of course, it is much harder to use than Delphi. Interesting... Back to top Craig Guest Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 1:40 am    Post subject: Re: What happened? 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