BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Non-Technical View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Michael Messerschmidt Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 12:40 pm    Post subject: what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 I have a few items that I'd like to see implemented in Delphi 9. I only have D6 so maybe some of these have finally been implemented. Save Bookmarks. I wonder, do the developers of delphi use bookmarks? I don't think they do (unless they always are finished with them by the end of the day and never come in the next day wanting all their bookmarks the way they were the day before). Ability to do multiple clipboard operations. (paste more than 1 thing). How many times have I wanted to copy multiple items???? I hate using the mouse. I use the classic IDE keyboard settings. I use F6 and Shift F6 all day to go between my code units. I would love to be able to use F6 and Shift F6 to go between forms instead of having to hit F12 (to get to the code) (F6 or Shift F6 to change to the unit I want) now F12 again to get to the form again. Michael Back to top Leonel Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 Michael Messerschmidt wrote: Quote: Ability to do multiple clipboard operations. (paste more than 1 thing). How many times have I wanted to copy multiple items???? Really, this is something that I can't get used to. I always press ctrl-c a few times to "make sure" that something gets copied to the clipboard. It usually screws up any multiple clipboard manager. I never actually missed that feature. When I need to copy multiple stuff, I add a bookmark instead (my bookmark usage is somewhat different than yours - they're usually expendable and short term), then return there later after I pasted what is in the clipboard. -- Leonel http://www.techtips.com.br "Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand." - Martin Fowler Back to top Jim Cooper Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:32 pm    Post subject: Re: what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 Quote: I have a few items that I'd like to see implemented in Delphi 9. It's probably a bit late to start asking D9 will be shown extensively at BorCon in only a month's time, so new feature requests are not likely to be considered now : http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,32499,00.html Cheers, Jim Cooper _______________________________________________ Jim Cooper [email]jim (AT) falafelsoft (DOT) com[/email] Falafel Software http://www.falafelsoft.co.uk _______________________________________________ Back to top Tom Reiertsen Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 "Michael Messerschmidt" <Info (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) com> skrev i melding news:411CB69F.278CF703 (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) com... <Snip features> You need CodeRush ([url]http://www.devexpress.com)[/url]. Tom. Back to top Kevin Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 Tom Reiertsen wrote: Quote: "Michael Messerschmidt" <Info (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) com> skrev i melding news:411CB69F.278CF703 (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) com... Snip features You need CodeRush ([url]http://www.devexpress.com)[/url]. Nice try but how do you get that to work in Delphi 8, let alone Delphi 9? ;-) Back to top Wayne Niddery [TeamB] Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 Michael Messerschmidt wrote: Quote: Save Bookmarks. I wonder, do the developers of delphi use bookmarks? I don't think they do (unless they always are finished with them by the end of the day and never come in the next day wanting all their bookmarks the way they were the day before). I certainly use bookmarks while coding, and while persistent bookmarks would be welcome - I would certainly make use of them - the majority of bookmarks I set tend to be "session-specific" - I set them to help me with specific work and then they're not needed anymore. -- Wayne Niddery - Logic Fundamentals, Inc. (www.logicfundamentals.com) RADBooks: http://www.logicfundamentals.com/RADBooks.html SpaceShipOne; GovernmentZero Back to top Captain Jake Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 "Kevin" <kevinbe71 (AT) y_a_WHO (DOT) c_o_m> wrote Quote: Tom Reiertsen wrote: You need CodeRush ([url]http://www.devexpress.com)[/url]. Nice try but how do you get that to work in Delphi 8, let alone Delphi 9? Ooh, you are so BAD. ;^) -- Read Jake's Blog at http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/ Or Get the RSS Feed at http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/Rss.aspx Everything contained in this post that is not quoted from others, is merely an opinion. It may be a well-informed opinion motivated by an uncanny grasp of facts and amazingly well-formulated theories, but it remains opinion nevertheless. I speak for nobody but myself, and even then I may get it wrong from time to time. Back to top Kevin Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 Captain Jake wrote: Quote: Nice try but how do you get that to work in Delphi 8, let alone Delphi 9? ;-) Ooh, you are so BAD. ;^) Yip... it's actually bugging me quite a bit that DevExpress hasn't produced a Delphi 8 version. Although I don't own CodeRush I was seriously thinking of buying it. Also, I'm using Delphi 7 only at this stage and the "non-availability" of CodeRush (and other third party products) factors into this to some extent- although my primary reason is still that I just don't need .NET. I imagine that Diamondback may re-invigorate the third party market a bit though. Obviously the jump to .NET (and the new IDE) was quite a big jump for most third party tools vendors to make. Cheers, Kevin. Back to top Captain Jake Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 "Kevin" <kevinbe71 (AT) y_a_WHO (DOT) c_o_m> wrote Quote: Yip... it's actually bugging me quite a bit that DevExpress hasn't produced a Delphi 8 version. It used to bug me too. But I got better! Quote: Although I don't own CodeRush I was seriously thinking of buying it. Also, I'm using Delphi 7 only at this stage and the "non-availability" of CodeRush (and other third party products) factors into this to some extent- although my primary reason is still that I just don't need .NET. I imagine that Diamondback may re-invigorate the third party market a bit though. I am fairly certain it will, but to be honest I don't find the third party market as weak as many here seem to want us to believe in the first place. There seems to be plenty of competition. Quote: Obviously the jump to .NET (and the new IDE) was quite a big jump for most third party tools vendors to make. Some, like TMS Software, seem to be making the transition a component at a time, thus easing the transition I would think. At the rate they are adding ..NET compatibility to their components, I just might be able to get a .NET version of my newsreader done with a lot less porting headaches than I first anticipated. It would be super-awesome if D9 (or D10 given how long i might take to even get version 1.0 of my newsreader out the door) let me rcompile my code with only a few hours of tweaking for .NET. -- Read Jake's Blog at http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/ Or Get the RSS Feed at http://blogs.slcdug.org/jjacobson/Rss.aspx Everything contained in this post that is not quoted from others, is merely an opinion. It may be a well-informed opinion motivated by an uncanny grasp of facts and amazingly well-formulated theories, but it remains opinion nevertheless. I speak for nobody but myself, and even then I may get it wrong from time to time. Back to top Ed Weatherup Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 Wayne Niddery [TeamB] wrote: Quote: Michael Messerschmidt wrote: Save Bookmarks. I wonder, do the developers of delphi use bookmarks? I don't think they do (unless they always are finished with them by the end of the day and never come in the next day wanting all their bookmarks the way they were the day before). I certainly use bookmarks while coding, and while persistent bookmarks would be welcome - I would certainly make use of them - the majority of bookmarks I set tend to be "session-specific" - I set them to help me with specific work and then they're not needed anymore. I use bookmarks a lot but mostly because class-completion doesn't work the way I want it to (see below): If we have persistant bookmarks then I'd also expect the IDE desktop to have exactly the same file open when I restart. On CC: If I write the method header first place it beween proc A and func B then I want CC to put the skeleton between the implementation of proc A and func B. If I write the method implementation first then I want the method header place in the same relative order. ATM it tends to be: a) Write method header b) Down arrow to an existing header with implementation c) CTRL+SHIFT+down to the implementation d) CTRL+K + 1 to set bookmark c) CTRL+SHIFT+C for CC d) Highlight CC's generated skeleton e) CTRL+X to cut f) CTRL+K + 1 to jump to bookmark g) Fiddle up and down with cursor keys h) CTRL+V to paste OMG! I hadn't realised there were so many operations ... still a lot less than typing though And the Friday afternoon wish ... auto-correct as I type, to save me from "moudle" and "serach" and all those typos that MS Word "kindly" hides from me :-) The lack of any of the above won't stop me upgrading to D9 though. -- Ed. Back to top Tom Reiertsen Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 "Kevin" <kevinbe71 (AT) y_a_WHO (DOT) c_o_m> skrev i melding news:411ce75d$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Nice try but how do you get that to work in Delphi 8, let alone Delphi 9? Uhm, well, you don't He said he was using Delphi 6 and I figured he can have what he wants in that version with CodeRush. Perhaps Castalia can provide that stuff in D8/D9. I don't know if it does though. http://www.delphi-expert.com/castalia2/index.html Tom. Back to top Sasan Adami Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 Michael Messerschmidt wrote: Quote: Ability to do multiple clipboard operations. (paste more than 1 thing). How many times have I wanted to copy multiple items???? In Delphi8 there's code snippets. You can drag selected code to the tool palette. From the tool palette you can drag it back to the editor. Not exactly the same, but close. Sasan. Back to top Kevin Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 Sasan Adami wrote: Quote: In Delphi8 there's code snippets. You can drag selected code to the tool palette. From the tool palette you can drag it back to the editor. Not exactly the same, but close. I think the code snippets idea is much more useful. I hate the whole multiple items on the clipboard concept. It drives me nuts when I'm using Word etc. and I always turn it off. Of course, each to their own and I understand why some people might like and use it. :-) Cheers, Kevin. Back to top Craig Stuntz [TeamB] Guest Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 Kevin wrote: Quote: I think the code snippets idea is much more useful. I hate the whole multiple items on the clipboard concept. I hate any screwing around with the clipboard. It drove me crazy when I tried CodeRush, and I don't like it in Outlook, either. The clipboard ain't broke. -Craig -- Craig Stuntz [TeamB] . Vertex Systems Corp. . Columbus, OH Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz Please read and follow Borland's rules for the user of their news server: http://info.borland.com/newsgroups/guide.html Back to top Peter Zolja Guest Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 12:07 am    Post subject: Re: what I'd like to see in Delphi 9 Quote: I certainly use bookmarks while coding, and while persistent bookmarks would be welcome - I would certainly make use of them - the majority of bookmarks I set tend to be "session-specific" - I set them to help me with specific work and then they're not needed anymore. I agree; and how about project-wide bookmarks? If I press Ctrl+Shift+1 in unit1 and Ctrl+Shift+2 in unit2, Ctrl+1 and Ctrl+2 should switch between the two units as well... 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