BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Would you use a new BCB product? Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (Non-Technical) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Relaxin Guest Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:11 pm    Post subject: Would you use a new BCB product? If Borland did come out with a new C++ product that used the VCL i.e. (BCB 9, CBX w/VCL), how many of you would actually take the risk of being burned AGAIN and use it? Not me! Back to top Andrue Cope [TeamB] Guest Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you use a new BCB product? Relaxin wrote: Quote: If Borland did come out with a new C++ product that used the VCL i.e. (BCB 9, CBX w/VCL), how many of you would actually take the risk of being burned AGAIN and use it? I would certainly trial it and unless there was something seriously wrong would almost certain get my boss to buy in a couple of copies. OTOH I would mostly only be using it for maintennance of existing projects. For new projects I haven't yet decided. Thankfully they are so infrequent here that I can probably wait until .net has won/lost before having to choose a new environment. -- Andrue Cope [TeamB] [Bicester, Uk] http://info.borland.com/newsgroups/guide.html Back to top mr_organic Guest Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you use a new BCB product? "Relaxin" <me (AT) yourhouse (DOT) com> wrote in news:40eac132 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com: Quote: If Borland did come out with a new C++ product that used the VCL i.e. (BCB 9, CBX w/VCL), how many of you would actually take the risk of being burned AGAIN and use it? Not me! I'd buy CBX w/VCL support, but not a Delphi-based BCB product. I despise the Delphi IDE in both its old and new incarnations, which is why I devoutly hope the CBX bugs will get ironed out. Even if not GUI designer is forthcoming, a fixed CBX with the new more conformant compiler would be worth paying for, IMHO. mr_organic Back to top Valence Crearer Guest Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you use a new BCB product? Relaxin wrote: Quote: If Borland did come out with a new C++ product that used the VCL i.e. (BCB 9, CBX w/VCL), how many of you would actually take the risk of being burned AGAIN and use it? I know that I should not answer this, but: I have not been burned by BCB... I have been using BCB 5.0 for years. I have gotten more from BCB than Microsoft or anyone else had to offer when it came out. It is fortunate that I have not been bothered by problems some have with it. (I did evaluate BCB6.0 and have only one or two copies of the professional version. We have not upgraded our other dozen copies for obvious reasons.) All the hype here in this newgroup has been, in large, just hype for those with my narrow scope -- industrial automation. BCB allows us to create everything we need from reusing C firmware code, to the RAD user interface. Microsoft still has nothing to compete directly with this, though LongHorn may fix that problem. No one can properly answer the question "Will you buy the next BCB?" without bias. There isn't enough information to say one way or the other. It is stupid to do anything other than make money now with whatever is most efficient for you today, and, tommorrow when BCB is out, use whatever is most efficient for you then. Suppose Borland BCB 9.0 is the best thing on the market when it comes out. You hurt yourself if you don't use it. OTOH, if it is as comparable to Microsoft as was Borlands C# product, then let your bias be your guide. Please, only people with interest would be prowling here anyway. You say you would not... But common, why are you even here? Back to top Leroy Casterline Guest Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you use a new BCB product? If it were BCB 9 I would definitely go with it. I don't know what I'd do if it were CBX. "Relaxin" <me (AT) yourhouse (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: If Borland did come out with a new C++ product that used the VCL i.e. (BCB 9, CBX w/VCL), how many of you would actually take the risk of being burned AGAIN and use it? Not me! Back to top Frank Gruber Guest Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you use a new BCB product? Quote: If Borland did come out with a new C++ product that used the VCL i.e. (BCB 9, CBX w/VCL), how many of you would actually take the risk of being burned AGAIN and use it? I would definitely wait two or three month until others have tried out and posted their experience here in the forum. I don't have the time to check if all the serious problems of BCB6 have been fixed and if no new showstoppers have built in. The real problem is that maybe most others will do the same . Frank. Back to top Remy Lebeau (TeamB) Guest Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you use a new BCB product? "Relaxin" <me (AT) yourhouse (DOT) com> wrote Quote: If Borland did come out with a new C++ product that used the VCL i.e. (BCB 9, CBX w/VCL), how many of you would actually take the risk of being burned AGAIN and use it? I would most definately use it. Gambit Back to top William Charles Nickerson Guest Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you use a new BCB product? "Relaxin" <me (AT) yourhouse (DOT) com> wrote Quote: If Borland did come out with a new C++ product that used the VCL i.e. (BCB 9, CBX w/VCL), how many of you would actually take the risk of being burned AGAIN and use it? I don't know if I would use it for a new project, but for existing projects that have VCL code I probably would. What if there was a significant change of management or even ownership at Borland? What if Microsoft bought them out? Aloha Bill Back to top Bupp Phillips Guest Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you use a new BCB product? "Valence Crearer" <crearer (AT) oconee (DOT) sema.slb.com> wrote Quote: Please, only people with interest would be prowling here anyway. You say you would not... But common, why are you even here? I've used Borland for about 11 years and have been burned my all of the many NON-upgradeable changes that they have created. So, I think of Borland like an ex-girlfriend...You wouldn't go out with her again, but you want to know what she's up to. Borland has become to flaky of a company for me to continue to risk my career on. I have since moved to VS.NET. I don't really like it, but I believe it will keep my career intact and it's the direction that MS is moving in. I will always be interested in Borland and their antics, but just like Boxing, it's entertaining, but I would want to participate. Thanks Back to top Vesty Guest Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you use a new BCB product? Bupp Phillips wrote: Quote: So, I think of Borland like an ex-girlfriend...You wouldn't go out with her again, but you want to know what she's up to. Lol! -- Vesty. Back to top Zambhala Guest Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you use a new BCB product? "Relaxin" <me (AT) yourhouse (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: If Borland did come out with a new C++ product that used the VCL i.e. (BCB 9, CBX w/VCL), how many of you would actually take the risk of being burned AGAIN and use it? There are far too many good alternatives from serious companies or serious open-source projects. Why bother with the silly-ass uncertainty? When BCB came out, it was the best product out there for my purposes bar none. But now Java with Netbeans or C# with Visual Studio are both better for my purposes. The world has moved on. Back to top Gara Guest Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:09 am    Post subject: Re: Would you use a new BCB product? "Relaxin" <me (AT) yourhouse (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: If Borland did come out with a new C++ product that used the VCL i.e. (BCB 9, CBX w/VCL), how many of you would actually take the risk of being burned AGAIN and use it? Not me! I will certainly use it. I use different tools for specific projects. Borland BCB is one of my favorite tool. And i think it will be great if they build QT cross platform library in BCB 9. I will use with please that library with BCB 9. ofcouse QT is not so rich as VCL but anyway it will be very rich to classes as soon as programmers jump to QT library. Back to top I R T Guest Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: Would you use a new BCB product? "Relaxin" <me (AT) yourhouse (DOT) com> writes: Quote: If Borland did come out with a new C++ product that used the VCL i.e. (BCB 9, CBX w/VCL), how many of you would actually take the risk of being burned AGAIN and use it? NEVER NEVER NEVER !!!! Back to top Sabetay Toros Guest Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: Would you use a new BCB product? Hey Guys, Those who are burned, are you satisfied with the environment that you had moved ? Sabetay "I R T" <rambam (AT) bigpond (DOT) net.au> wrote Quote: "Relaxin" <me (AT) yourhouse (DOT) com> writes: If Borland did come out with a new C++ product that used the VCL i.e. (BCB 9, CBX w/VCL), how many of you would actually take the risk of being burned AGAIN and use it? NEVER NEVER NEVER !!!! Back to top Randall Parker Guest Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:20 am    Post subject: Re: Would you use a new BCB product? I would. Risk? I think there'd be enough initial upgraders who could report how it worked to let us know if it was worth upgrading. If it is an improvement on v6 sp4 then I'd upgrade. Relaxin wrote: Quote: If Borland did come out with a new C++ product that used the VCL i.e. (BCB 9, CBX w/VCL), how many of you would actually take the risk of being burned AGAIN and use it? Not me! 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