BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  XP look to my application          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> C++ Builder (VCL Components Usage) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message --== Alain ==-- Guest Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: XP look to my application Hi, I know by experience that we can make an application have the XP look, just by adding a "application_name.exe.manifest" file in the same folder that my application_name.exe file. However, i when i do, my application gets crazy. for example in my about window, my TListView component, is refreshing without limit just by moving on/ moving out the mouse cursor on this component... So where is it written, exactly how should like the manifest file to make no issue to my application ? or does it exist another way ? thx, Alain Back to top JD Guest Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: XP look to my application --== Alain ==-- <nospam (AT) noemail (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: [...] my TListView component, is refreshing without limit just by moving on/ moving out the mouse cursor on this component... When theming, XP sends extra messages to it's underlying controls and TListView is just a wrapper for one of them. However, your description of the problem sounds more like XP exposed a flaw in your logic. You'll need to post some code. ~ JD Back to top Clayton Arends Guest Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: XP look to my application If you are using BCB4-BCB6 then download and use Mike Lischke's XP Theme Manager. The "winxp.res" resource file contained in it has always served me well even without using the included components: http://www.delphi-gems.com/ThemeManager.php Delphi 7 and up (including BDS) use this package natively. - Clayton Back to top Clayton Arends Guest Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:08 pm    Post subject: Re: XP look to my application I forgot to mention if you only want to use a manifest file to support XP theming then this package also comes with an example manifest file. - Clayton Back to top --== Alain ==-- Guest Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: XP look to my application i do not want to have a third party tool... moreover, i'm on BDS2006. Clayton Arends wrote: Quote: If you are using BCB4-BCB6 then download and use Mike Lischke's XP Theme Manager. The "winxp.res" resource file contained in it has always served me well even without using the included components: http://www.delphi-gems.com/ThemeManager.php Delphi 7 and up (including BDS) use this package natively. - Clayton Back to top Clayton Arends Guest Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: XP look to my application You seem to have a thing against third-party tools. It's a recurring response of yours. Do you wish to recreate the wheel every time? You do not have to use this freeware component. You can simply extract it and take the manifest file. As for BDS2006 ... it natively supports XP themeing. Just drop a TXPManifest component on a form. Again, if you don't want your product to have XP support unless a manifest file exists then use the one from the theme manager download. - Clayton Back to top --== Alain ==-- Guest Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: XP look to my application no Clayton... it's just that i like to control the source of code and in most of third party tool, you can not... moreover, it force me to learn every time something new ;-) Clayton Arends wrote: Quote: You seem to have a thing against third-party tools. It's a recurring response of yours. Do you wish to recreate the wheel every time? You do not have to use this freeware component. You can simply extract it and take the manifest file. As for BDS2006 ... it natively supports XP themeing. Just drop a TXPManifest component on a form. Again, if you don't want your product to have XP support unless a manifest file exists then use the one from the theme manager download. - Clayton Back to top Remy Lebeau (TeamB) Guest Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re: XP look to my application "--== Alain ==--" <nospam (AT) noemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4517f808$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: it's just that i like to control the source of code and in most of third party tool, you can not... In my company, we insist on having access to all source code before allowing any third-party component/library to be used in our products. The only time we don't is if the component/library fills a need that we can't live without, which is not very often. Many third-party vendors to provide source code. It may cost us a little extra, but vendors are usually accomodating about that. Gambit Back to top --== Alain ==-- Guest Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: XP look to my application Yes but...you pay a little extra ;-) in my company, they bought during several years 3rd party tools without keeping care about that...now, they have obsolete components without any support to update their needs... that's my sad experience.. Remy Lebeau (TeamB) wrote: Quote: "--== Alain ==--" <nospam (AT) noemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4517f808$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... it's just that i like to control the source of code and in most of third party tool, you can not... In my company, we insist on having access to all source code before allowing any third-party component/library to be used in our products. The only time we don't is if the component/library fills a need that we can't live without, which is not very often. Many third-party vendors to provide source code. It may cost us a little extra, but vendors are usually accomodating about that. Gambit Back to top Gene Norris Guest Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: XP look to my application In BDS2006... When I just drop a TXPManifest component on a form, I lose the status bar. It shows up, but does not display anything - ever. So then I look up TXPManifest component in help and surprise it's not there. There is much missing from the C++ help, plus what is there is just infuriating. I'm fairly certain, those in charge of C/C++ help are almost completely unfamiliar with the language. Cutting and Pasting the help from Delphi is not an appropriate answer. (I can look at the delphi equivalent myself.) C/C++ requires (unfortunately) more effort. I cannot tell you how many times I have looked to help for finding out which header holds the declaration for a function. I just looked up FileCreate (which used to be in <filectrl.hpp>). Help happily tells me it is in the SysUtils unit. So I guess the proper syntax is: uses SysUtils; Oh wait, is that Dephi/Pascal? _____Also events, look at the help: TDrawGrid::OnSelectCell Event Occurs before a cell in the grid is selected. Class TDrawGrid Syntax [C++] __property TSelectCellEvent OnSelectCell = {read=FOnSelectCell, write=FOnSelectCell}; Description Write an OnSelectCell event handler to specify whether any particular cell in the grid can be selected. Borland® Copyright © 2005 Borland Software Corporation. All rights reserved. ---Where in here am I supposed to figure out what CanSelect means? SuperGrid1SelectCell(TObject *Sender, int ACol, int ARow, bool &CanSelect) --I guess in the old help files? from a previous version? Of course that may complicate things for the previous example. How about C/C++ help showing _header file_ and _return value_ and maybe even explaining events with cross references to the property/class types. Gene Clayton Arends wrote: Quote: You seem to have a thing against third-party tools. It's a recurring response of yours. Do you wish to recreate the wheel every time? You do not have to use this freeware component. You can simply extract it and take the manifest file. As for BDS2006 ... it natively supports XP themeing. Just drop a TXPManifest component on a form. Again, if you don't want your product to have XP support unless a manifest file exists then use the one from the theme manager download. - Clayton Back to top Clayton Arends Guest Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:32 pm    Post subject: Re: XP look to my application Hello Gene, Before I answer your questions I want to acknowledge that *most* of us that use BDS2006 are upset with the condition of the help system. Quote: When I just drop a TXPManifest component on a form, I lose the status bar. It shows up, but does not display anything - ever. What happens if you set the 'SimplePanel' property to true. I can replicate the problem you mention only if SimplePanel is false. Quote: So then I look up TXPManifest component in help and surprise it's not there. This particular component has no properties to alter. It was most likely an oversite (one of many) to not at least mention it in the help but you wouldn't find out much from the help anyway other than: "This component allows your application to take advantage of XP Themeing when run in a Windows XP environment that supports themeing." Quote: I just looked up FileCreate (which used to be in <filectrl.hpp>). Help happily tells me it is in the SysUtils unit. So I guess the proper syntax is: uses SysUtils; The help for FileCreate clearly shows the C++ syntax and namespaces. There is no mention of "Uses". In fact it doesn't show any code example. I don't understand your problem with this entry. Quote: _____Also events, look at the help: TDrawGrid::OnSelectCell Event Occurs before a cell in the grid is selected. .... ---Where in here am I supposed to figure out what CanSelect means? The full help for this event is in TCustomDrawGrid::OnSelectCell. In this particular case the problem is that the documentation team added a help entry that shouldn't have existed. There shouldn't be any help for TDrawGrid::OnSelectCell. Quote: How about C/C++ help showing _header file_ and _return value_ and maybe even explaining events with cross references to the property/class types. Many of the cross reference links are broken in the BDS help. This has been complained about many times in the newsgroups and in QC. However, most of the help entries I've looked at mention return values and the units that hold the referenced classes and functions. - Clayton Back to top george Guest Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:52 pm    Post subject: Help Files I hope it is all right to change the subject in mid-thread so to speak. How can I get an updated and correct help text file to go with my version. I have Version 6.0 Personal and several errors in it. Gene Norris <genenorris (AT) spotengineering (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: In BDS2006... There is much missing from the C++ help, plus what is there is Quote: just infuriating. Back to top Gene Norris Guest Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:48 am    Post subject: Re: XP look to my application Clayton, Clayton Arends wrote: Quote: Hello Gene, Before I answer your questions I want to acknowledge that *most* of us that use BDS2006 are upset with the condition of the help system. When I just drop a TXPManifest component on a form, I lose the status bar. It shows up, but does not display anything - ever. What happens if you set the 'SimplePanel' property to true. I can replicate the problem you mention only if SimplePanel is false. SimplePanel set to true FIXES the problem! Thanks! ....> Quote: I just looked up FileCreate (which used to be in <filectrl.hpp>). Help happily tells me it is in the SysUtils unit. So I guess the proper syntax is: uses SysUtils; The help for FileCreate clearly shows the C++ syntax and namespaces. There is no mention of "Uses". In fact it doesn't show any code example. I don't understand your problem with this entry. In short:), I want to see something like I used to see from borland, this is a quote from C++3.0 Library Reference: _creatnew_ _Function_ Crate a new file. _Syntax_ #include <dos.h> int createnew(const char *path, int mode); ... _Remarks_ ... The mode argument to createnew can be one of the following constants (defined in dos.h): FA_RDONLY Read-only attribute ... _Return Value_ Upon success... file handle, a non-negative integer; otherwise, it returns -1; ... _See also_ close, _creat, creat, creattemp, dup, open _Example_ ... Now I can cut and paste the include to the top of my source and use the function. (If I programmed in Pascal/Delphi, I believe could have pasted SysUtils (from current help) into the uses line in my Delphi code.) Quote: _____Also events, look at the help: TDrawGrid::OnSelectCell Event Occurs before a cell in the grid is selected. .... ---Where in here am I supposed to figure out what CanSelect means? The full help for this event is in TCustomDrawGrid::OnSelectCell. THE SAME help is there, perhaps appropriately so. In this Quote: particular case the problem is that the documentation team added a help entry that shouldn't have existed. There shouldn't be any help for TDrawGrid::OnSelectCell. Why not?! How can I effectively use something like CanSelect without any information. Quote: How about C/C++ help showing _header file_ and _return value_ and maybe even explaining events with cross references to the property/class types. Many of the cross reference links are broken in the BDS help. This has been complained about many times in the newsgroups and in QC. However, most of the help entries I've looked at mention return values and the units that hold the referenced classes and functions. - Clayton You're too nice. I've used Borland since turbo c v1.0. I'm tired of the ever increasing trend of kicking C/C++ to the dirt. Units are enough for delphi, but I want enough for C/C++. You cannot use FileCreate without including the appropriate header and that should be obvious in the header for everyone including newbies, not just people like us who have used the product and know the answers or at least how to painstakingly find them. Happy Programming. Don't take this personally, I am criticizing Borland not you. And I hope a better product will bring more new users and make them lots of money! Gene Back to top Gene Norris Guest Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:08 am    Post subject: Re: Help Files Your about to be de-supported! http://support.borland.com/entry.jspa?externalID=129&categoryID=37 This doesn't include v6.0 http://info.borland.com/devsupport/borlandcpp/patches.html Maybe you can find something here? http://support.borland.com/category.jspa?categoryID=10 bds2006: http://cc.borland.com/item/24132 george wrote: Quote: I hope it is all right to change the subject in mid-thread so to speak. How can I get an updated and correct help text file to go with my version. I have Version 6.0 Personal and several errors in it. Gene Norris <genenorris (AT) spotengineering (DOT) com> wrote: In BDS2006... There is much missing from the C++ help, plus what is there is just infuriating. Back to top Clayton Arends Guest Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: XP look to my application Hi Gene, Quote: There shouldn't be any help for TDrawGrid::OnSelectCell. Why not?! How can I effectively use something like CanSelect without any information. I meant the help for TCustomDrawGrid::OnSelectCell contains all of the necessary information about the event and should have been sufficient. An additional entry in the help for a descendent that adds no additional behavior is superfluous. And as you have noted the help for TDrawGrid::OnSelectCell is actually confusing since it doesn't contain the necessary info. 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