BorlandTalk.com Borland discussion newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Your thoughts please          BorlandTalk.com Forum Index -> Delphi Thirdparty Tools (IntraWeb) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Yoav Berchik Guest Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Your thoughts please Hi Guys, My company is considering intraweb for few projects we have. My question is not about product features but about the stability, support, and commitment. I know the atozed chaps are great, but contacting them is like communicating with a distant galaxy. Combine that with the confused and outdated site, the poor documentation and few other issues makes us wonder if it is safe to use this product in a real-life commercial situation or not. If you are commercially using this product, comments of your experience would be appreciated. Thanks. Back to top Joel Guest Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Your thoughts please We have several applications with hunderds of concurent users. It is by far the best web application software. Their documentation leaves alot to be desired, but if their resources are limited I would rather see continuous product development. You can get lots of help and code examples from the newsgroups and the product is very easy to understand once you get past the learning curve. I would suggested that you purchase support and use the priority newsgroups. I highly recommend it for application development on the web. (However if you are just trying to display static web pages then I would use another tool.) Joel "Yoav Berchik" <berchik (AT) taomedic (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4628a242$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Hi Guys, My company is considering intraweb for few projects we have. My question is not about product features but about the stability, support, and commitment. I know the atozed chaps are great, but contacting them is like communicating with a distant galaxy. Combine that with the confused and outdated site, the poor documentation and few other issues makes us wonder if it is safe to use this product in a real-life commercial situation or not. If you are commercially using this product, comments of your experience would be appreciated. Thanks. Back to top Yoav Berchik Guest Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Your thoughts please Thanks Joel, that sounds good. Yes, we do need dynamic web applications, and usually develop isapi and web services with delphi for the server parts, and clients with Delphi for desktops, and dotnet for web clients. 'VCL for the web' seems to be the tool for reducing development time and this is nice, if it is stable *and* supported well by atosed. "Joel" <nowhere (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4628a5ff$2 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: We have several applications with hunderds of concurent users. It is by far the best web application software. Their documentation leaves alot to be desired, but if their resources are limited I would rather see continuous product development. You can get lots of help and code examples from the newsgroups and the product is very easy to understand once you get past the learning curve. I would suggested that you purchase support and use the priority newsgroups. I highly recommend it for application development on the web. (However if you are just trying to display static web pages then I would use another tool.) Joel "Yoav Berchik" <berchik (AT) taomedic (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4628a242$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Hi Guys, My company is considering intraweb for few projects we have. My question is not about product features but about the stability, support, and commitment. I know the atozed chaps are great, but contacting them is like communicating with a distant galaxy. Combine that with the confused and outdated site, the poor documentation and few other issues makes us wonder if it is safe to use this product in a real-life commercial situation or not. If you are commercially using this product, comments of your experience would be appreciated. Thanks. Back to top Randy Magruder Guest Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Your thoughts please I will chime in and say that IW has been a net positive for us, and we are doing commercial development with it. That's not to say that there haven't been hiccups. There are still some issues with the new AJAX stuff that has caused us to hold off on using it, and the documention is generally out of date and located all over the place (I am using a combination of an old .hlp file, a PDF manual, the online docs, and a complete download of all historical private support newsgroup messages to search for help). Once I have exhausted those, I'll post to the support groups, where usually an answer comes from IW developers or from some of the 'A-Team' volunteers. The Arcana guys have been great. So I won't say it's trouble free, but as a Delphi developer I'd take it over competing web technologies any day. Randy Back to top Joel Guest Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Your thoughts please We use isapi, but you can also deploy nicely as a service. IW is really nice from a security standpoint because it is all dynamically generated. The speed of development is great. You can also use form inheritance (whoever heard of that in web development). Anyway, I can go on and on, but I am out of time. "Yoav Berchik" <berchik (AT) taomedic (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4628aa73 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Quote: Thanks Joel, that sounds good. Yes, we do need dynamic web applications, and usually develop isapi and web services with delphi for the server parts, and clients with Delphi for desktops, and dotnet for web clients. 'VCL for the web' seems to be the tool for reducing development time and this is nice, if it is stable *and* supported well by atosed. "Joel" <nowhere (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4628a5ff$2 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... We have several applications with hunderds of concurent users. It is by far the best web application software. Their documentation leaves alot to be desired, but if their resources are limited I would rather see continuous product development. You can get lots of help and code examples from the newsgroups and the product is very easy to understand once you get past the learning curve. I would suggested that you purchase support and use the priority newsgroups. I highly recommend it for application development on the web. (However if you are just trying to display static web pages then I would use another tool.) Joel "Yoav Berchik" <berchik (AT) taomedic (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4628a242$1 (AT) newsgroups (DOT) borland.com... Hi Guys, My company is considering intraweb for few projects we have. My question is not about product features but about the stability, support, and commitment. I know the atozed chaps are great, but contacting them is like communicating with a distant galaxy. Combine that with the confused and outdated site, the poor documentation and few other issues makes us wonder if it is safe to use this product in a real-life commercial situation or not. If you are commercially using this product, comments of your experience would be appreciated. Thanks. Back to top Jason Southwell Guest Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Your thoughts please Quote: My company is considering intraweb for few projects we have. My question is not about product features but about the stability, support, and commitment. IW is very stable and we have used it in many commercial web applications, both for ourselves and for many clients. Atozed has great support on their priority newsgroups and peer support on both the Atozed CodeGear newsgroups. Atozed is fully committed to the development of IntraWeb, and that is expressed in the amazing work they've put into getting AJAX support into IW9. I will agree that it needs some work, but it will get there. If you don't feel like you are getting adequate support or need help beyond what you are getting, then there is always Arcana's Extended Support Service (ESS) which is a credit based support service for Intraweb and Delphi. 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